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Pregnancy and fetuses.[edit]

Hello, mammal people. I've a concern regarding mammals and people.

We currently have Pregnancy and Pregnancy (mammals). Also Fetus and Fetus (biology). This seems backwards, to use a qualifier for the general topic, and leave the general term redirect to specific mammal issues. Sure, that mammal is homo sapiens, the only kind to read Wikipedia. But we're meant to be objective and neutral here. Even widely-held bias is bias, and directing humans to learn about their own kind rather than the general term they queried furthers this bias.

I saw this briefly discussed on the human pregnancy talk page, but years ago. Anybody up for change? Any opposed? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:06, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Trinomial reference[edit]

Hello, does anyone know where I could confirm the Trinomial reference to go in the taxabox for an extinct sub-species of Canis lupus, please? William Harristalk • 20:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Are you looking for just the name and author or the original reference? If it's not listed under ITIS Canis lupus, you might have luck with a Google Scholar search. This paper may provide assistance. What trinomial are your looking for? --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Animalparty, thanks for your speedy reply. I have created a short article on Canis lupus variabilis named by Pei in 1934. I had assumed that this name gets recorded in some august volume somewhere in the world and that this makes it official. (NB: I am not a biologist, have no idea!). Regards, William Harristalk • 08:38, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Is that an available name, recognised by the ICZN? I ask because Canis variabilis was named by Wied-Neuwied in 1841, and is now synonymised with a subspecies of grey wolf. So, if Wied-Neuwied's animal is now a subspecies, wouldn't that be the "real" C. l. variabilis? Either Pei's referring to the same animal, in which case the reference is "Weid-Neuweid 1841", or he's tried to name a new one, in which case (it seems to me) his name isn't valid? Not having the original source, I'm wondering whether Pei actually said he was the first to formally describe this animal? Anaxial (talk) 09:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I've just dug up a further reference (Wang & Tedford 2008), and it does seem that "Pei 1934" is the correct author. Whether the name is available or not is another matter, especially since the animal's subspecific nature is apparently in doubt, but it does appear to be in wide use. Anaxial (talk) 09:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Anaxial. Pei was not referring to the same wolf - his went extinct 200,000 years ago. However, thanks for looking up Wang and Tedford - those two know their stuff! I will run with Pei 1934. Regards, William Harristalk • 11:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Suborder in all primate taxa taxoboxes[edit]

I am proposing at WP:Animals that all primate taxa articles include the suborder so that the divide between strepsirrhine and haplorhine primates is more visible to readers. Please comment there. – Maky « talk » 08:29, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


The naming of "Cougar" is under discussion, see talk:Cougar, Rlendog (talk) 08:36, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

There is an RFC that may affect a page in this project[edit]

There is an RFC that may affect a page in this project at WikiProject Tree of Life. The topic is Confusion over taxonomy of subtribe Panina and taxon homininae (are chimps hominins)?

Please feel free to comment there. SPACKlick (talk) 17:03, 20 March 2015 (UTC)