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Summary of Military history WikiProject open tasks watch · edit · full list News and announcements The January newsletter is now available. Current discussions A discussion about the criteria for including engagements in campaignbox templates has begun. Featured article candidates  HMS Queen Mary • Battle of Radzymin (1920) • May Revolution • Battle of Arawe • John Balmer • James Garrard • President Truman's relief of General Douglas MacArthur • George Andrew Davis, Jr. • Mark Satin • Franco-Mongol alliance • 1907 Tiflis bank robbery Featured article review  Medal of Honor • Polish–Soviet War Featured list candidates  List of Ohio class submarines Other featured content candidates  Wacht am Rhein A-Class review  Vilyam Genrikhovich Fisher • Reginald Pinney • John Francis Jackson • Battle of Milne Bay • ASM-A-1 Tarzon • Royal Artillery Memorial • Bardanes Tourkos • Priscus (general) • List of battleships of Greece • John Sherman Cooper • Battle of Bautzen (1945) • Jesse L. Brown • List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (E) Good article nominees  John C. "Pappy" Herbst • Reinhard Heydrich • Attack on Yokosuka • Zuihō class aircraft carrier • Hubert Brooks • Qutayba ibn Muslim • The Cenotaph, Southampton • Air Force of the Independent State of Croatia • Bloody Knife • Battle of the Defile • Turahan Bey • German cruiser Emden • Henry II of England • SMS Nürnberg (1916) • SMS Emden (1916) • Gordon P. Saville • Bhagat Singh • Battle of Magdhaba • Cornelio Saavedra • British soldiers in the eighteenth century • Siege of Krujë (1466) Peer reviews  Invasions of the British Isles • British infantry brigades of the First World War • Iraq War in Anbar Province • Military history of Canada Articles that need... work on referencing and citation (35,992) • only work on referencing and citation (9,905) • work on coverage and accuracy (24,103) • only work on coverage and accuracy (1,964) • work on structure (8,857) • only work on structure (142) • work on grammar (1,821) • only work on grammar (4) • work on supporting materials (8,178) • only work on supporting materials (402) • photographs (868) • assessment (37) • assessment as lists (914) • project tags fixed (40) • assessment checklists completed (25,851) • attention to task force coverage (272) Our first song Good news: I've just discovered we have an article for the song Sink the Bismark, so in addition to games, movies, and TV shows we now have our first official song (insofar as I can tell, anyway). TomStar81 (Talk) 23:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC) For those of you interested in listening to the song here be a link: [1] TomStar81 (Talk) 23:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC) Johnny Horton was the man!XavierGreen (talk) 03:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC) Featured article candidacy for German battleship Bismarck now open The featured article candidacy for German battleship Bismarck is now open. Comments from reviewers are needed to help determine whether the article meets the criteria for featured articles; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! Parsecboy (talk) 23:42, 6 January 2012 (UTC) USS Texas (BB-35) I came across this at the Help Desk. I've emailed the Foundation and offered a possible OMT drive to bring the article up to TFA. As it's already at A-Class, it should be easy. Any takers? Buggie111 (talk) 21:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC) Eh, the article is heavily based on DANFS, including some very close paraphrasing (and probably direct copies, I only looked at a couple of places). I'd recommend getting rid of all or at least most of the references to DANFS altogether and cite the material from more academic sources. The Navweaps citations will also need to go, and the citation format needs to be completely redone. There are accuracy issues as well; the line "With the German Fleet increasingly tied to its bases in the estuaries of the Jade and the Ems rivers, the American and British ships settled into a routine schedule of operations with little-to-no hint of combat operations" for instance, implies the reason there was no combat was because the Germans wouldn't venture out of their bases. In reality, the British had largely abandoned the central and southern North Sea after Jutland as well. There may be more, this is just what caught my eye. Parsecboy (talk) 22:52, 8 January 2012 (UTC) Wow, this one takes me back... Both MBK004 and I worked on this article back in the day. I hate to admit it, but the current Texas is likely going to need a top to bottom rebuild since it is as Parsecboy surmised 90% a cut/paste job from DANFS; acceptable back in the day but not today, I am afraid. On an unrelated note, my whole damn family is now jobless, and unless things take a turn for the better real fast our funding is gong to run out in 2-3 months time. If that happens I doubt I will be on here at all for a very long time. Assuming that God actually listens to our family's prayer(s) this time instead of putting us aside as he always seems to do then maybe we could get a lucky break, but until then I doubt very much that I will be able to help here. TomStar81 (Talk) 09:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC) Capitan Prat Hey all, I stumbled across this ship while reading through Ed's South American dreadnought race article, which is at FAC. It's a 7,000-ton ship armed with four 9.4" guns, and is classed as a battleship by Conway's 1860-1905 (which normally classifies ships we don't include as coastal battleships, turret ships, etc.). Is there a reason we haven't included it? Parsecboy (talk) 23:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC) Launched in 1890, it's of the proper period to be classified as a pre-dreadnought, but it's far smaller than even the second-class battleships of the period and 9.4-inch guns are nothing to write home about in terms of armament. Compare it to the British Centurion class battleships of the same time which were 3,000 tons bigger and with 10-inch guns. I'd call it a coast defense ship, but YMMV.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:17, 11 January 2012 (UTC) She's a high-freeboard design, which I think moves her out of the coastal defense ship realm. FWIW, Illustrated Directory of Warships of the World classifies her as a battleship too. Parsecboy (talk) 00:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC) Well, a lot of the Austrian battleships had only 9.4" guns - it was only the last class of "semi-dreads" that moved up from them, so I wouldn't exclude it on grounds of gun size...I'd say that while she's on the small side she squeaks in as a pre-dreadnaught battleship. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:07, 11 January 2012 (UTC) That reminds me - ten of the German pre-dreadnoughts were equipped with 9.4" guns (the Kaiser Friedrich III and Wittelsbach classes), so again, there's an argument for including her, or at least not excluding her on those grounds. On somewhat of a side note, in trawling through google books to build the article, I came across a few references to her being a second class battleship (though most were simply "battleship"), which we have several of already, including Texas and Maine and several British ships (ex: Centurion class), to name a few. Parsecboy (talk) 12:47, 11 January 2012 (UTC) Featured article candidacy for HMS Queen Mary now open The featured article candidacy for HMS Queen Mary is now open. Comments from reviewers are needed to help determine whether the article meets the criteria for featured articles; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:39, 12 February 2012 (UTC)