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Gerontological Nursing Proposed Revisions[edit]

I proposed revisions to the Geriatric Nursing page, which has been noted to need major revisions or a rewrite. The rationale is here: Talk:Geriatric_nursing. The proposed revisions are in a Gerontological nursing sandbox. Suggestions and comments are welcome. --LynnMcCleary (talk) 18:17, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Just wanted to say (well after the fact) nice job on Gerontological nursing! Looks great. Basie (talk) 20:34, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention[edit]

This is a notice about Category:Nursing articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello again[edit]

Hi all. Just started back editing a few bits and pieces around the place. Anyone else with this page on their watchlist, would be great to hear what you're interested in/working on of late. Basie (talk) 20:29, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back. I like biographies. I created the List of Living Legends of the American Academy of Nursing and have worked little by little on creating or expanding those bios. There are still some fairly prominent people on that list (like Pender) with red links. If any nursing courses engage with the WP education program, there might be an opportunity to have students work on articles like those. I don't know too much about how that works though. Clinically, my interests are neonatal intensive care and pediatrics in general. Also willing to help with articles on nursing specialties, degrees or journals. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 20:43, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Nice. My clinical focus is PICU, but I don't really feel I've contributed much in that area yet. I've been striking lots of good nurse bios in trolling through the WPNURS cats. Basie (talk) 05:46, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

AfD: Lynn Sibley[edit]

FYI, I've proposed Lynn Sibley for deletion (per WP:NOT). The discussion can be found here. Basie (talk) 05:35, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

The article was speedily deleted thanks to EricEnfermero picking up copyright violation. Basie (talk) 02:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Nursing WikiProject article class/importance assessment updates[edit]

I've been ambling through the categories assigning class/importance where none existed (or were obviously out of date). For want of a better method, most nurse bios (who had achieved their notability through nursing) received a 'mid' importance. Some were upgraded from stub to start, or to C.

It was a fairly rapid run through so obviously feel free to disagree/alter assessments where you think it needed. Basie (talk) 05:40, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

A quick search finds 32,000+ articles containing the word nurse (or nurses) and 20,000+ containing the word nursing. There are only about 600 tagged articles. I'm guessing that the number of articles that ought to be tagged is at least twice what's been found so far. If you want to go on a search, then I've been pretty happy with the script at User:Kephir/gadgets/rater. It lets you tag an article without needing to click through to the talk page first. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
You're trying to kill me, aren't you? ;) Thanks! Basie (talk) 22:48, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a more efficient way to search for additions to the category than the likes of this?

nurse -incategory:nursing -incategory:"nursing by country" -incategory:"advanced practice registered nursing" -incategory:"nursing ethics"...

Sadly, category exclusion from search doesn't seem to cascade to subcats. Basie (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Merge Assistant practitioner with Unlicensed assistive personnel?[edit]

Disccussion here. Basie (talk) 23:20, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Nursing in media[edit]

We have one small category, Books featuring nurses, with a few entries. However, there are a lot of other articles that arguably belong in nursing categories:

In the case of Nurse Jackie, a good deal of fuss was made by various nursing organisations at the time the first season aired because nurses were being portrayed in a less than favourable light. When ER first aired, many nurses felt they were showing nursing work fairly accurately for the first time on TV.

It does rather open a can of worms though. The medical cats have Works about physicians and Fictional doctors. Also Medicine in society. Is this a good approach for WPNURSE? Basie (talk) 19:38, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

It looks like Category:Fictional nurses is already a decently robust category. For the movie category, do we want to add movies about nursing to an established category (like Films about health care, Documentary films about health care, or Medical-themed films) and then evaluate how many apply to nursing? EricEnfermero HOWDY! 20:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Good find. I like the idea behind the medicine in society cat, but then Category:Medical works is a bit of a muddy way to classify things IMHO. I'll see if there's enough fodder for a "films about nurses". Basie (talk) 05:20, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Nursing#Definition_of_Nursing[edit]

Input invited. I think the main article for this project is in need of an overhaul. Basie (talk) 00:56, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to comment on nursing student edits to Wikipedia articles[edit]

I hope that some of you might want to provide nursing students with some feedback on their novice editing.

I am the professor of a first year nursing communication course at Brock University. The class has a Wikipedia assignment and I'm hoping some of the students will want to stay on as editors after the course ends. The course Wikipedia page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:Brock_University/NUSC_1P10_Professional_and_Therapeutic_Communications_%28Fall_2014%29.

The students worked in groups of 4 to find credible evidence to enhance content about communication on assigned Wikipedia articles, some of which have been flagged as important for WikiProject Nursing. Many of the articles they edited do not seem to be active in terms of editing. Some did not have talk pages. This means that the students are not engaging with other experienced editors about editing on these pages.

We invite you to view the students' edits and give them advice to improve them.

The articles are listed on the course page. I'll list the ones that haven't had editors outside the class comment here:

Thank you for considering this.LynnMcCleary (talk) 23:14, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lynn. Thanks for letting us know. I had already engaged with the students editing Patient safety, but did not know about the others. That's quite a list! I'll check it out. Basie (talk) 00:49, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for reaching out, Dr. McCleary. I interacted with a student at the Peplau article. I sometimes worry about whether I'm supposed to "butt in" on a student assignment, but I found the student to be collegial and open to suggestions. I'm excited about this student work. Many of our theorist articles are pretty incomplete. In fact, there are numerous AAN Living Legends who don't have an entry. Even Patricia Benner didn't have an article until a few months ago. Lots and lots of potential for student work here! EricEnfermero HOWDY! 04:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

More on our main article[edit]

I've started a discussion here on paring down the history section of Nursing, comments and participation welcome. Cheers, Basie (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Removal of the icon from the Nursing template[edit]

nursing symbol or genie trap?

A relatively new editor changed Template:Nursing recently to remove the little lamp icon next to the heading. It's not clear that they understood it would impact more than one page, so I've dropped a note on their talk mentioning it. I think it's fine to leave it this way, in line with other health wikiprojects such as Template:Medicine and Template:Anatomy. Feel free to weigh in if you disagree though! Cheers, Basie (talk) 00:28, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

I've never been a big fan of the lamp, so I'm okay with it. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 01:45, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Me either. It always reminded me of Aladdin. Basie (talk) 12:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
I looked at the template how it was before. The lamp is a Western symbol of nursing but I do not expect that it is global. Also, other templates of this sort do not have icons as Basie said. I think it is better to omit the symbol in this template. I put the image on the WikiProject page, because it is still a usable symbol and right now that page has no better images being shared. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:50, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! (Fade to black whistling, Arabian Nights...) Basie (talk) 09:38, 8 December 2014 (UTC)