Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orphanage

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Orphaned Articles Categories Questions[edit]

Hello there. In the subcategories of [[1]], it says that the earliest category is November 2006. However, in the orphaned articles column on the right hand side, it says the earliest is November 2007. Why is the November 2006 category missing from this list? Is there a way to add the November 2006 category to the column? Thank you. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:08, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: Fixed – It took some time to track down, but this edit to Template:Progress box fixed it. – Wbm1058 (talk) 00:22, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
@Wbm1058: - Awesome. Thank you! MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

BackLog Drive "DO" (De-Orphaning) script proposal[edit]

Hello WP:WPO! Jim came to my talk page yesterday asking for ideas (and a script) to be able to have a scored BLD for this project. As such, I thought about (and slept on) the issue and my thoughts on how such a scoring system would work are along the lines of:

  • +1 point for attempting to de-orphan a page (whether successful or not)
  • +1 point for de-orphaning a page for each article space link created to it
  • +1 bonus point for de-orphaning a page by creating at least three article space links to it

There should also be some kind of accountability system so that people aren't claiming they attempted to deorphan or adding links to pages from pages that have nothing to do with them just for the sake of scoring points to win a virtual trophy that they can display on their userpage. For this, I'm thinking that there should be a "recheck" system in place so that anyone who rechecks a page that someone else already claimed to have done, and finds something out of place (of course AGF), should get a point for that. The person who did the original deorphan attempt should lose that point and there should be a threshold of a certain number of lost points = disqualification from the awards. Before I go on much further, I would like to hear the ideas and thoughts of the other project members on what I've suggested so far. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 14:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Good proposal. I'd also recommend giving a point for each rereview. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Interesting idea but what's "a scored BLD"? Mfbjr (talk) 03:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
A scored back-log drive (i.e. A competition to encourage people to work on removing the Orphan backlog) Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 09:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I had once written this script that made de-orphaning easy. It's one of the worst userscripts that I've ever written (I open tabs instead of using AJAX), but the idea is IMO still valid, and possibly something that can be remade as an AWB plugin. Why not try using that to battle the backlog? I'm not so enthused by simply gamifying the deorphaning process -- it will help, but gamification helps only so much, the process should be made scalable ManishEarthTalkStalk 03:40, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
The BLD competition seems like a good idea with a well thought out scoring system. I don't see why that and an automation script have to be at all mutually exclusive though, surely both ideas are worth pursuing regardless of the outcome of the other? Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 09:14, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
I would be in favour of going the WP:gadget route rather than the AWB route. With a gadget the tool is open to a much larger range of non-technical users and I see no technical reason that AWB should be required. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Support Sounds good. Could there be a goal of how many articles to deorphaned in a month, or a monthly list of articles that are the focus of the month? I proposed a monthly challenge here a few months ago, but I didn't hear any responses. By having this script, it will fulfill my previous proposal. Many thanks. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:47, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Support Great idea. I like the monthly focus and challenge too. Someone would need to curate that, however. Chris Jefferies (talk) 19:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Counter proposal - I support doing a trial BLD to see what kind of dent we can make in the backlog with an effort like this. The effort is not going to live or die based on a scoring system. I propose that we try a low-overhead BLD without scoring.
In my opinion, what's going to make a significant dent in the backlog is recruiting more members for this project. I can see how the visible activity generated by a BLD can raise awareness of WP:ORPHAN and potentially bring in new members. But, perhaps I've underestimated interested in a BLD. Let's start this by collecting names of editors interested in participating in a BLD. We will want such a list no matter how we choose to proceed. ~KvnG 05:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
sure, why not --Jtle515 (talk) 05:34, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support- as proposer. Jim Carter (talk) 07:40, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support- Sounds good, and worth a try, if you can work out how to automate it all (which sounds daunting to me... so good luck with that). FWIW, my own personal experience was that I signed up on the de-orphaning when WP ran its Backlog Project a few years ago, and kept going for several years (attempting to tackle the oldest month of orphans each time, or the oldest month with only a few entries left in it). I stopped about a year ago... I just ran out of steam... that and more demands from my day job. Perhaps if I knew that my efforts were being logged in a points system, I might have continued. Perhaps. TheAMmollusc (talk) 08:39, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support I'm a fan of the every-other-month drives we do at the Guild of Copy Editors and would happily participate in a de-orphaning drive as well. (talk) 14:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support I joined this project after stumbling upon an orphaned article, seeing the tag, and finding that I enjoyed the challenge of de-orphaning. Recently I've fallen off the bandwagon around here but I think this type of BLD is just what I need to re-engage. Onward, I say! Adam Kriesberg (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support A functioning scoring system would be necessary... Bots, Perhaps. Mr.Magik-Pants (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support A scoring system sounds like quiet the motivator. Sure, why not? lets give it a shot.Osy (talk) 01:36, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support I think this is a beneficial way to get people to add several links to specialized articles that are cut-off from the masses. Great idea. DJB3.14 (talk) 20:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Support Great idea! it'll give us more motivation to keep on helping wikipedia! I'm quite busy also but i'll try my best to give you guys a hand and eventually get some points^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan Tessier (talkcontribs) 17:40, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Test BLD[edit]

Kvng please can you clarify it for how much time this test BLD will take place. Because I have to send other participants message (using MMS) about this test BLD and have to ask them to join us. So I was wondering if you can clarify? Suggestions from other participants were also appreciated. Thank you. Jim Carter (talk) 03:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Month-long BLDs seem to work well. They should not be repeated more than every other month. ~KvnG 15:38, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay Kvng I'm going to fix it from 12 April 2014 to 12 May 2014. I will send all the participants a notification about this test BLD as well as a invitation to join it. I was also thinking to create a list of non participant Wikipedians here. We will include non participants whom we know. And then I will send them all a invitation to join us by WP:MMS. Lets see what others think? Jim Carter (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Ready to send the BLD notification now. But I'm busy today. Will do it tomorrow. Jim Carter (talk) 15:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Hey there! It seems I've arrived late in the discussions. Where's the backlog drive tally, etc? FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I participated in the drive, I just didn't have a place to tally the articles. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Orphan tag on TfD[edit]

Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2014_June_14#Template:Orphan. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Orphanage at Wikimania 2014[edit]

Project Leaflet WikiProject Medicine back and front v1.png

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

The deadline for submissions is 1st July 2014

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to:

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Adikhajuria (talk) 18:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Orphanage participants category[edit]

Looking at my userpage, I can see that WikiProject Orphanage does not have a category for the participants. Should one be created? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)