Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portugal

See also: pt:Wikipédia Discussão:Projetos/Países/Portugal (Português)

Portuguese Timor

User Merbabu is trying to erase the infobox included on the article Portuguese Timor. This kind of infobox exists in many other articles in Wikipedia. He is just trying to impose his own view in the article. Is there some action that can be done against it? Emerson

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The first theatre and the first actors

Hello! I am interested in theatre history, and I hope some one can answer my question. I wonder: which was the first theatre, with proffesional actors of both genders, in Portugal? I am also interested in the first known actor and actress, or the most famous actor and actress, of that theatre's early years. I have heard that the acting proffesion was barred for women in Portugal in the 18th-century. If so, when was it lifted? I hope someone can answer my question. I would be gratefull if You could answer on my talk page. Regards--Aciram (talk) 09:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese international artists

In the english version of the Carmen Miranda biography on wikipedia, an article that is considered as of high-importance to this wikiportugal-project, she is refered as portuguese-born brazilian. Since she never had brazilian citizenship and was in fact portuguese i belive that expression is wrong. Besides this issue i think that using portuguese-born expression tries to diminish the connection of her nationality to Portugal. Since she is only portuguese she should be refered as portuguese and not brazilian. Note that this is a reference to her nationality/citizenship and does not put at stake her importance to the brazilian music culture. since an artist may be from one nationality and be of great importance also to other country. One thing doesn't erase the other. 81.84.168.59 (talk) 03:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Why is there a need to specify that the English-language version states she is Brazilian when the Portuguese-language version says the same thing?98.71.198.236 (talk) 07:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

English translation of Nelly Furtado's biography in wikipedia

states she is Canadian ... The editor refuses to state she is portuguese-canadian and sticks to call her simple canadian.

The Portuguese-language version says the same thing. What is the problem?98.71.198.236 (talk) 07:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Colonial Act

The entry on the 1930 Colonial Act uses emotive language that is not really suitable for use in an encyclopaedia. As such, it is highly subjective and could be dismissed as being biased. Lusobrandane (talk) 13:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese translation

Please help, can you tell me what this says? File:Jergen Corpo Nacional de Escutas da Guiné-Bissau text.JPG

Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

The image has no relation with the subject of the article, a fast and easy translation of the text of the image:
"scouts national corp (CNE-GB)
(catholic Guinean-Bissau scouts)
After fifteen months of preparation of a 15 people group, ten masculine and five feminine, of which seven were scouts back in the Colonial war times. with one intensive orientation course given by six hight leaders of the national scouts of Portugal, from 23rd to the 27th of February, on internal regime, that will take place at the Parochial center, after twenty seven years, we will have the joy of restore the world's biggest youth movement, at Bissau cathedral in Guinea-Bissau, proportioning one alternative to our youth formation." --213.138.224.65 (talk) 04:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Present day

How is it possible to consider a 1988 (Herman José case) as a "Present day" example. The last part of the article that refers the current situation of Portugal freedom of speech and censorship is incomplete and does not reflect the reality of the country, gives a negative image that does not match reality. two good examples not mentioned were the law suits involving Alberto João Jardim and the local Madeira press and José Socrates and the country's press that clearly showed the nonexistence of censorship in Portugal. Compared to other countries Portugal doesn't have too many cases where someone claims to be silenced by some form of censorship. --213.138.224.65 (talk) 03:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Listing all of the unreferenced biographies of living people for your project and Herman José

Portuguese comedian Herman José is an unreferenced biography of living people, so it will probably be deleted if it is not referenced. I have no interest in this subject. Could someone please reference it? Thank you.

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Herman José has just been cleaned with text translated from pt.wp. Its {{BLP unsourced}} tag has therefore been removed. Comte0 (talk) 23:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Photo request

If anyone is convenient to Lisbon Airport, would anyone mind photographing the TAP Portugal headquarters (Building 25)? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 19:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Francisco Manuel Ibérico Nogueira

A new article written completely in Portuguese language. Could you look at it, please? --Vejvančický (talk) 13:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

OK... Resolved... --Vejvančický (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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Names of royalty and political figures

Several years ago, all the names were anglicized for some reason. "João" became "John", "Pedro" became "Peter", etc. There does not seem to be a consistent pattern, however. In some cases, the names have not been anglicized (e.g., "Afonso" has not been turned into "Alphonse" and "Manuel" has not been made into "Emmanuel"). According to WP:UCN, we should use the spellings used by reliable sources, and according to WP:UE, where there is no consistent established usage editors should " follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject". Although there are some sources (particularly older sources) which have anglicized non-English names, there have also always been excellent references which have reflected the Portuguese spellings for the names of these people. It is confusing to have them anglicized on Wikipedia. Are there good reasons that would prevent moving these articles back to reflect the Portuguese spellings? • Astynax ^talk 17:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Portuguese-Indian War

A discussion thread has been started at Talk:1961_Indian_Annexation_of_Goa#Title regarding the title of the article (i.e., whether to use "Invasion of Goa" or "Annexation of Goa" in the title). If you are interested in the topic, please discuss the issue there.XavierGreen (talk) 23:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Current team

Freddy Adu does not currently play for Benfica, As of right now he's on loan to Aris Thessaloniki F.C. He should return at the beginning of the 2011-2012 season

The current number 11 on the team is Javier Balboa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.249.121 (talk) 12:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Need translator

Can someone help with translation here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scouting#Uni.C3.A3o_dos_Escoteiros_do_Brasil? Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured portal review/Portugal

I have listed Portal:Portugal at Featured Portal Review because I do not think that it meets current standards for featured portals. Please join in the discussion, or better still, help to improve the portal so it meets the Featured portal criteria. Thanks, Bencherlite^Talk 17:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Invasion of Goa 1961

Hi..... we are having a bit of an issue for the title of the Invasion of Goa 1961 page and are trying to resolve it through a vote. Please visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:1961_Indian_Annexation_of_Goa#Title_tag and give us your feedback.Tigerassault (talk) 09:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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Brazil-Portugal relations

the page needs to be expanded, sourced and organised. Ive done stuff off the top of my head but its awfully late now, and i hope to be in bed soon.Lihaas (talk) 19:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Image help

Can anyone identify this commons image which was claimed to be in Lagos, Nigeria? It looks more European but can't find anything to confirm it is Lagos, Portugal. Please reply at: commons:COM:ANB#Question. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 17:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The discussion has been archive, so if you can confirm the image location please modify the image file. ww2censor (talk) 05:25, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Help with articles on forts

I ended up spending a lot of my day sorting out "Forte de São João" articles. There are a couple of jobs left over, which I can't do, if anyone is inspired to work on this:

1. Have a look at the feast of redlinks at the new page Forte de São João (disambiguation) and do some translating from Portuguese to make them go blue.
2. Review the 11 September 2010 contributions of Starzynka (talk · contribs) (listed here or via the contribs link), and especially the ones starting "Forte." It was problems in these that first attracted my attention. The user (now retired) had created Forte do Biscoitinho and Forte de São João as duplicate articles referring to Forte de São João (São Mateus da Calheta) (now an article newly translated by me), with mistaken and nonexistent interwiki (pt) links, respectively. The same user also created Fortaleza de São João Baptista as a duplicate to the existing and decent article Castelo de São João Baptista do Monte Brasil. So I'm sure there are some other little messes to clean up in that burst of stub creation.
3. Portuguese Wikipedia is not immune from duplicate articles on Terceira Island, Azores, forts! I put the merge tags on pt:Forte de São João da Praia da Vitória and pt:Forte de São João (Santa Cruz), but if your Portuguese is good enough to do the merge (and you confirm that they are duplicates), go for it!

Wareh (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Coats of arms of Portuguese colonies

I have started an article on the Coats of arms of Portuguese colonies. Someone more knowledgeable of Portuguese heraldry should flesh it out. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 19:13, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Important move request on Portuguese monarchs. Share your thoughts.

I have requested the move of article John VI of Portugal to João VI of Portugal in here: Talk:John VI of Portugal#Requested move. Since more than anything this has to do with Portugal, I thought it would be necessary to warn this WikiProject. Share your thoughts there, it's important. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Eugenio de Andrade

Dear Sir(s), Madam(s): As an inheritor of the de Andrade name, I am concerned and shocked that Mr. Jose Fontinha, illustrious Portuguese Poet, is still referred to by the "de Andrade" moniker, which he chose after unsuccessfully attempting to establish himself as a poet.

It is deeply disturbing to read biographical sources where the de Andrade name, to which he has no LEGAL right of usage, is flaunted and referrred as fact. the aforementioned is deeply disturbing, as I have read deeply unflattering critical analysis, in Portuguese, of Mr. Fontinha's work, prior to his usurpation of "MY" family name. It would behoove everyone to please correct this ERRONEOUS usage of an illustrious and ancient Portuguese family name, by a well-known poet - regardless of the subsequent embarrassment. I sincerely hope that I do not need to use, for example, the surname "Camoes, to make my point.

But if I must, I shall, in the meantime, PLEASE, update this extremely Dishonest and misleading title - the Fontinha name is beautiful, Lyrical, and I am sure would be a wonderful addition to Portuguese Intellectual "Bellles-Lettres."

Yours truly,

M. Camoes (aka M. de Andrade) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.97.126.226 (talk) 03:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Portuguese contemporary art

FYI. postdlf (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

The only witch trials of Portugal?

It seems that Portugal hade nearly no witch trials leading to death sentences, except for two: the Witch trial of Lisbon (1599), and the Witch trial of Évora (1626). Can anyone confirm this? Are they years correct? As the only two witch trials in their country, they should have articles here, but I can find no information of them. Have anyone heard of them? Can you perhaps give me a name of one of the condemned, or any other information, by which I can at least google for them? I would be gratefull for any information at all. Thank you.--Aciram (talk) 13:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The Empire of Brazil task force has been created. Join the team!

The Empire of Brazil task force has been created. It has as goal the improvement of all articles related to Brazilian (and Uruguayan until 1828) history between 1822 and 1889 during the Empire of Brazil era. Join the team, you're welcome! --Lecen (talk) 19:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Diacritics RfC

Discussion is underway regarding the use of diacritics in proper nouns from languages such as Portuguese. Comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC. Prolog (talk) 19:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Portuguese historians needed...

There is debate at Talk:Miguel, Crown Prince of Portugal about the reliability of sources, etc.

If any members of this project have knowledge about Portuguese 14th Century history, your input would be much appreciated. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:46, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Translation help for DYK, Ponta das Contendas Lighthouse

Any native Portuguese speaker with a better translation of "obscure" and "convenient" in 2nd paragraph of history section of Ponta das Contendas Lighthouse? Trilliumz (talk) 16:00, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

From the Portuguese source, you say? I don't think it's necessary, those are OK. Parutakupiu (talk) 16:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Help: portrait of King Pedro IV

My friends, would there be anyone who, by chance, could provide a digital copy of the portrait of King Pedro IV that is presently located in the Museu dos Coches? I'm talking about this portrait: [1] and [2]. For quite some time I've been wishing to add it to the King-Emperor's article. I would be very glad if anyone could help. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 00:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to help, but I don't live in Lisbon. But... isn't the infobox image used in Pedro I of Brazil taken from that portrait already? Parutakupiu (talk) 00:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Just a small pirce of it, and even so, the quality of the picture is very low. --Lecen (talk) 02:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Portugal to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portugal/Popular pages.

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A Brazilian/Portuguese article as Today's Featured Article?

I've recently nominated Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil on Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests to be shown on the next 1 December. If there is someone who believes that the article should appear, post your comment. If not, then do it too. --Lecen (talk) 18:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Portela Airport

Is Portela Airport in Lisbon proper? If not, what municipality is it in? Even though its address says "Lisbon"? WhisperToMe (talk) 17:09, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

That is a good question. The truth of the matter is that "Lisbon" airport only partially falls within the municipality of Lisbon (specifically in portions of the civil parishes of Charneca and Santa Maria dos Olivais, while the remaining portion (to the northeast) is within the municipality of Loures (likely Portela). I can officially confirm this with the CAOP administrative divisions once I get home. ;) Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 17:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I would like that, please.

Specifically I want to know about the TAP complex (Reduto TAP) - If it is in Lisbon or not

File:TAPHQLisbon.JPG - This is the TAP HQ location: http://megasis.pt/img/mapa_megasis.gif and http://megasis.pt/img/local.jpg

If you have any maps that could help sourcing, that could help too

If it is in Lisbon, knowing the district/neighborhood would be nice too

Thank you

WhisperToMe (talk) 20:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, rechecked my Google Earth overlay of the CAOP. It's definitive: a majority of the Lisbon Airport (including the administrative buildings) is located within the municipality of Lisbon. As I indicated above, the airport falls within the parishes of Charneca and Santa Maria dos Olivais, in the municipality of Lisbon, but the second half of the runway is within the civil parish of Camarate in the municipality of Loures. Just to specify, the TAP administrative and maintenance buildings are located within the civil parish of Santa Maria dos Olivais. I can offer you my KMLs for Google Earth just to assist. Let me know or email me. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 21:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Please send the KMLs. Thank you!

For ANA (airport authority), the buildings are in Lisbon (Building 120 is the HQ), but which parish is the ANA HQ in?

What about Portugalia (Building 70)?

Thanks

WhisperToMe (talk) 22:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Loures

Does anyone have a few minutes to clean this one up a little? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I will take care of this tonight. I'll update content to this and Loures Municipality before then end of the night. Knock on wood. :) Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 18:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Nice work! – ukexpat (talk) 04:21, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Portugal will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Portugal's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)