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Re: Categories: sound mixer versus electrical engineer[edit]

Over at the project page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional sound production/To do there is a discussion of how to organize the different types of audio engineers/engineering jobs. This is located under Categories: sound mixer versus electrical engineer.

Since it has no associated Talk page, I'm placing my thoughts on that topic here. If this is not a good place (or not the best place) to do so, please tell me! I know this isn't really a good excuse, but I am a newbie--not just at this WikiProject but at Wikipedia in general, which, unfortunately, means that I'm going to be a bit more prone to errors when it comes to "how things are done here," the sort of things one learns only by just doing something for a while. </rabbit trail>

Anyway, Binksternet offers this suggestion: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ob1-kenogle (talkcontribs) 01:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd put mastering engineer under "Studio", like this:
  • Studio engineers:
    • Recording engineer
    • Mixing engineer
    • Mastering engineer
  • Live mix engineer
  • Audio engineer
It's also possible to break live sound people into FOH mix, monitor mix and system engineer. Binksternet (talk) 17:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

First, I like the changes he made under "studio engineers," namely the three types of engineers he proceeds to list.

For the category "Live mix engineer," I offer using the term "Sound reinforcement engineer" instead. (I took long enough for me to get around to the point of this edit, didn't it?

Also, perhaps I missed something somewhere, but I don't understand why "Audio engineer" is listed at all, as it seems redundant and is a broader category than either "Studio engineers" or "Live mix/Sound reinforcement engineers."

And he's right about the subtypes "FOH (front-of-house) engineer," "Monitoring (perhaps use "monitor" instead) engineer," and so forth.

By the way, folks, if I haven't already messed something up or offended someone's sensibilities/ego/parents, I am looking for someone to "adopt" me. (You know, after typing out those two words they seems a little bit, well, creepy.) Unless something changes drastically around here, as both my wife and I have health issues, and I've been on disability since 1997, I certainly do plan to be around Wikipedia for some time, and not only in this WikiProject. (Well, it's also possible I could be banned or something, but surely not me...!) I definitely believe I have a good deal of ignorance knowledge and experience to offer. Of course, it's also true that the most important thing I've learned about the internet in general, since it arrived, is that

1. No matter how much you think you know about something--anything--there will always be someone else out there considerably smarter than you, and who is capable of making you look like an ignorant fool without a lot of effort.

2. If such a person exists, he/she will publicly correct everything you just posted and will make you look like an ignorant fool. Which you are. At least you will believe you are now, even if nobody else does.

3. This will cure you of any inclination toward posting anything at all, anywhere, for a long, long time. A really long time.

Oh--sorry about that "unsigned comment." I certainly had intended to put a signature at the end when I was finished, but, of course, as soon as I posted just a part Mr. SineBot, being a non-biological entity (nothing personal, Mr. SineBot, sir), sprung into action quite faster than I was able to finish. Yes, I realize I shoulda made a lot more use of "Preview," and that this is but one evidence of my heretofore-referenced newbieness.

Ob1-kenogle (talk) 01:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I like your "Sound reinforcement engineer" better than my "Live mix engineer" but just as much as "Live sound engineer". Not everybody who is expert at sound reinforcement is actually mixing. Some live sound engineers are busy with wireless frequency coordination, or with delay towers, or with patching, setting mics, changing stage monitors, etc. With that in mind I am not as positive about "Live mix engineer". On the other hand, nobody is going to get famous for coordinating frequencies. ;^)
The "Audio engineer" designation is there for the famous audio system and equipment designers, such as Ed Long or David Gunness (both loudspeaker designers), Graham Blyth the mixer designer, or even Don Buchla the synthesizer guy, though his audio gear was all of the musical instrument type. Binksternet (talk) 03:21, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
It looks like the proposal is to create some functional sub-categories below Category:Audio engineers. Right now the only functional sub-category is Category:Mastering engineers (there is also Category:Audio engineers by nationality). Sounds reasonable. I think we should keep it simple. I propose the following sub-categories under Category:Audio engineers:

-—Kvng 15:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

"Cue sheet"[edit]

The usage of Cue sheet is under discussion, see Talk:Cue sheet (computing) -- (talk) 00:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


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File:IXI sketch 2.jpg[edit]

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Compact Cassette Logo.svg[edit]

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Logic Pro[edit]

There's a RM at Talk:Ultrabeat which may be of interest. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Duplicate templates[edit]

It seems clear that Template:AVconn and Template:Audio and video interfaces and connectors need to be merged. The only obstacle seems to be lack of participation in discussions and lack of someone to do the work. I would, and still may, do it but my experience working with templates is limited. ~KvnG 16:40, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Request for assistance (cross-posted on article talk page)[edit]

For the article Pono_(digital_music_service) Text removed -- should it go back in? I took out the numerical decibel info in "a new less dynamically compressed master with high resolution in mind with an average dynamic range of -10.00 dB below 0 dB is necessary for a noticeable increase in sound quality" because the wording near it was garbled and because I thought the minus sign on the decibels was a typo. The references (one before and three after) didn't help, but negative decibel numbers are real; a decibel rating, to my surprise, is always relative to something. So please feel free to put this text back in, especially if you can find a reference. Thanks. -- Jo3sampl (talk) 14:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC) Jo3sampl (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Looks like this has been competently resolved at Talk:Pono_(digital_music_service)#Dynamic_Range. Dynamic range in audio mastering is covered in detail in Loudness war. ~KvnG 12:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


I just added Funktion-One to Article requests. (talk) 19:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

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