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WikiProject Scouting (Rated Project-class)
WikiProject icon Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting is part of the Scouting WikiProject, an effort to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Scouting and Guiding on the Wikipedia. This includes but is not limited to boy and girl organizations, WAGGGS and WOSM organizations as well as those not so affiliated, country and region-specific topics, and anything else related to Scouting. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
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Article Content, remarks
Scouting Describes the movement of Scouting: history (founding, growth), activities one does in Scouting, organization, should cover both male & mixed sections (Scouts and Cubs) and female only (Girl Guides and Brownies), younger/older sections, international
Scout Movement redirect to Scouting
Scout (Scout Movement) About the members, boys or girls aged 11-17 years, activities they do in Scouting, the Scout section, Troop/Patrol, Scout Law, Motto, Uniform. Not about history, not about the organization or movement.
Scout remains disambiguation page
Girl Guide and Girl Scout About the members of Girl Guiding (Girl Scouting in the USA and some other countries)
Girl Guide, Girl Scout redirect to GG&GS (US line of thinking)
Cub Scout, Brownie (Girl Guides) About the little boy/girl
Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell About the person Baden-Powell, and his personal history. Not about the Scout movement other than his input/influence. Lots of redirects here, btw.
Boy Scouts, Girl Guides, etc General summary pages that have see also links to other Scouting pages. Used to avoid to lead users to more indepth articles, no longer disambiguation pages due to all the confusion of different naming conventions. All other plurals redirect to the singular per Wikipedia standard, not to Scouting or a separate organization oriented article
WOSM, WAGGGS Articles about the current international organization. Not about the Scouting movement, history pertaining to the organization only.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review&curid=4200230&diff=641807108&oldid=641807006#Scouting_in_New_York --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

  • I commented. --evrik (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Are we interested in this? --Bduke (Discussion) 20:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Use of {{Infobox WorldScouting}} in Scouting in X State (US Scouting)[edit]

I'm concerned about three practices of infoboxes to these articles (done by users such as @Evrik). See Scouting in California as an example. I'll note that the infoboxes are used for each council (Girl or Boy Scouts) and also two regional scouting infoboxes for "Scouting in California" and "Girl Scouting in California". First should there be more than one infobox in an article? The [[Help::infobox]] page indicates not given that the location is suppose to be in the top right corner of the article though the council subsections of these categories better fit the use of infoboxes. I'm inclined to go with infoboxes for each individual council. Second, if more than one infobox is permitted, I don't think there should be two regional scouting infoboxes (Girl Scouting is Scouting); I'm not even sure what purpose a regional infobox for Scouting serves in the first place. Third, under no circumstance should a map image be in a scouting infobox. Such images almost always are too small to allow the reader to make out the necessary detail that makes a map useful in the first place. Thoughts? --Erp (talk) 22:28, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

More than one infobox is permitted. FWIW, I'm the only one who has been going through the Scouting in X State articles and cleaning them up. So far, I have finished 26 of the 50 states. I agree that all of the individual councils should have an infobox. I think the infobox at the top of the page sets the them for the article, and whenever possible I use photos of both the BSA and GSUSA. So there seems to be a disagreement on the header and the maps. I use the maps in the section header because they encompass all the councils in that section. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say regional page. --evrik (talk) 02:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
By regional I mean the infoboxes not for an individual council but rather the whole state. Since all they contain usually is the words "Scouting in State X" and a few pictures/maps but no facts, I don't think they are useful. Put the pictures and maps where appropriate within the article and at a size that makes them readable without the user having to click on them. --Erp (talk) 05:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
The infoboxes frame the photos, otherwise the images just seems to sit in the top corner with little explanation. I like having the maps smallish. If people want to look at them they can go to the link. --evrik (talk) 23:18, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
I thought that the idea of the infoboxes was for use with organisations rather than regional divisions. I've just, however, removed some that were being used for individual instances of biannual jamborees. I think that we need to maybe come up with some sort of agreement as to what they are for, otherwise we could just have pages and pages of the things appearing. DiverScout (talk) 12:53, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
If you look at {{Infobox WorldScouting}}, it was meant for all Scouting articles, councils, camps, lodges, events, etc. --evrik (talk) 15:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Interview for The Signpost[edit]

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Scouting for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Thanks, Rcsprinter123 (tell) @ 17:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Origins of the Scouts[edit]

A few articles are using this reference:

Robert Campbell (1993) Origins of the Scouts, Sydney, Australia

Searches just keep coming back to our articles. Anyone know anything about this work? --  Gadget850 talk 17:40, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

From Australia, I have never heard of it. I thought searched from here rather the US might give more results, but you are right, all references are to wikipedia. I suggest deleting the reference, and see if anyone complains enough to give a proper citation for it. --Bduke (Discussion) 20:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I had tried WorldCat, Amazon and others with no joy. I'm calling shenanigans on this one. --  Gadget850 talk 21:11, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
And you brought this up before: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Archive 2013#Robert Campbell (1993) Origins of the Scouts, Sydney, Australia. --  Gadget850 talk 21:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Indeed. I had just noticed that and had come here to say so. You spotted it first. I had forgotten. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I've cleared that out. Thanks. --  Gadget850 talk 22:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Guide or leader (Polish Scout instructor's rank)[edit]

This is not enough for a standalone article.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:53, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

The discussion should be at Talk:Ranks in Polish Scouting#Merge of "Guide or leader (Polish Scout instructor's rank)". I have started the discussion there. --Bduke (Discussion) 07:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)