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Wikipedia in local news[edit]

Wikipedia Primary School: first call for Community Reviews[edit]

Hi everybody! After our previous call for articles, here is a friendly invite to improve some articles before a version is sent to some external experts for review in January 2015. Deadline is Dec 31, 2014 for: Walter SisuluDiscriminationStereotypeHerero and Namaqua GenocideWinnie Madikizela-MandelaFrances BaardSan people. Thanks a lot for your help with this! --Elitre (WPS) (talk) 16:30, 18 December 2014 (UTC), Wikipedia Primary School project.

Just Done Productions Publishing[edit]

Hi all. Can I ask my fellow MILHISTorians to weigh in on the AfD of this article? Unfortunately the page creator BoonDock has a COI as the founder of Just Done. Gbawden (talk) 17:53, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Without any independent reliable sources the article will not survive. Has any magazine or newspaper ever written an article about the company? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:01, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

7th Cape Town Meetup[edit]

Hello everyone, just wanted to let you all know about the 7th Cape Town Wikipedia meetup will be happening on Sunday the 1st February 2015. Check out its page for more details. --Discott (talk) 14:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live![edit]

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Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

How do I join WikiProject South Africa?[edit]

Chris Lowe (talk) 22:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Welcome Chris. You can add your name to Participants link above. Also under the Main Page link above, have a look at the Project statistics at the pages that are unique to our WikiProject, some need work on them or look at adding new work.Conlinp (talk) 07:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Art & dog ...[edit]

Axxter99 (talk) 13:09, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Axxter99, did you mean to say something about those articles? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:18, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Axxter99 - strokeFace-sad.svg. Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa - class: ????
Article Wikipedia South Africa - Axxter99 Note

Just Nuisance WikiProject Military history - C-class
WikiProject Dogs --start, Mid-importance
Rated Start-class, Mid-importance C ?
Moses Kottler WikiProject Biography - C
WikiProject Visual arts -- C
Rated C
Lippy Lipshitz WikiProject Biography - Start
WikiProject Visual arts -- Start
Rated Start C ?
Rustenburg School for Girls WikiProject Schools - Start Rated Start

? Face-confused.svg Axxter99 (talk) 12:36, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, we're not clairvoyant here. Try writing an actual sentence or three, meaning is easily and accurately conveyed in well-crafted prose. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Porterville page[edit]

Porterville page includes data link to 2011 census but the data actually displayed on the front page is 2001 census so front page needs updating.

Thanks for pointing this out, not so sure which 2001 "front page" data issue you are talking about? On a side note, I actually think the whole "Demographics (2001)" section is superfluous and should be removed. Not going to do that yet but will make a note of it.--Discott (talk) 11:45, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Pinging demographics specialists User:htonl and User:NJR_ZA - Could this be a page we overlooked when the 2011 census update was done? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:39, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
And User:Underlying lk too... Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, I've replaced the "Demographics (2001)" section with a bit of prose summarising the 2011 info. - htonl (talk) 17:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Aerial Photograph competition: suggestions for content submissions[edit]

I am currently working on a grant application from the Wikimedia Foundation to run a photographic competition for aerial photographs of South African subjects for use on Wikipedia. I would like to get your input on what sort of pictures and video media you feel we need on Wikipedia to better illustrate South Africa related topics on Wikipedia? They will obviously have to be within the confines of South African laws and guidlines (so no photographs of national key points or strategic assets for example). At the moment the list I have is based on my perceptions of what is needed but I want to get all of your input on this as well and my understanding of what is need will obviously not be as complete as all of us put together. Here is the list I have so far:

  • Places of geographical interest: mountains, beaches, hills, biomes, bays, rivers, ect.
  • Public historic sites: battle sites, monuments (even new monuments can be added so long as they are video footage), ect.
  • Settlements: neighbourhoods, towns, villages, ect.
  • Infrastructure: highways, power stations, and national roads.
  • Private places of interest with owner's consent: wine farms, historic buildings, ect.

Thanks, --Discott (talk) 10:53, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I forgot to mention. I am also looking for Wikipedia editors who would be willing to assist me in reviewing submissions to this competition. Also looking for anyone interested in helping me use submitted content that has not already been used to illustrate Wikipedia articles after the competition has ended. If you are interested then please let me know. Cheers, --Discott (talk) 11:40, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Maybe advertising this on - SA's biggest aviation online forum - could be a good idea. I am a registered user there. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Great idea Roger (Dodger67), we will do that! Thanks for the suggestion, --Discott (talk) 12:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[edit]

Hi everyone

This is the first article I have ever written. It is for RunwaySale, a South African online retail site. I have encountered two issues

1. It has been written as a advertisement 2. it is an orphan with no other Wiki pages linking to it.

Please can someone offer me some guidance with these two issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

I have edited the article to reduce the promotional tone. I'm afraid I can't do anything about the orphan issue, as it seems that other directly relevant articles do not exist (yet). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for making the changes Roger (Dodger67), it has improved the encyclopedic tone of the article which is always a good thing on Wikipedia especially for a company page. I am not so sure how to fix that orphan issue either. To the original author, thanks for making the edit and welcome to editing community. Company articles are always a tricky thing to write and it is not helped by the fact that very few people edit articles about companies on Wikipedia.--Discott (talk) 10:39, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree, companies/organisations and people are by far the most difficult subjects to write about. If you want to get some relatively easy wiki-writing practice create articles about species. All properly described and named plants, animals, fungi, bacteria, etc. are notable and sufficient sources for at least an acceptable stub are quite easy to find. I'm always most comfortable here when I know nothing at all about the subject, it forces one to strictly follow the source. It's also rather difficult to have a bias or strong opinion about topics such as pond scum, grasses, beetles or birds. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Research Invitation - Bilingual English/isiXhosa Speakers[edit]

UCT invites all bilingual English/isiXhosa speakers to participate in a competitive online game to translate South African Wikipedia articles from English into isiXhosa. Participation is entirely voluntary and all identifying information will be kept confidential. There is no financial remuneration for participating.

To register for the game please click here to complete the registration form. After registering you can begin translating content and ranking other user translations immediately.

You will compete with other participants on translation score and can view your ranking on the leaderboard. Translate and rank more to beat the other participants to the top. The game is not limited to UCT students. Anyone with conversational language skills in both English and isiXhosa may participate.

If you have any questions or concerns about this study, please feel free to contact Sean Packham at I am UCT MSc student in the Department of Computer Science being supervised by Prof. Hussein Suleman. This study has been approved by the Faculty of Science Ethics Committee at The University of Cape Town (ref no: FSREC 055–2014). --Humetheresa (talk) 07:05, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

@Humetheresa, you forgot to include the "click here" external link in the second paragraph. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:45, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I have corrected it above. --Humetheresa (talk) 07:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Primary School invitation[edit]

Hi everybody. On behalf of the teams behind the Wikipedia Primary School research project, I would like to announce that the articles Transport in South AfricaKhoikhoiRepublic of South AfricaCoal in South AfricaWater supply and sanitation in South AfricaWater privatization in South AfricaHealthcare in South AfricaNelson MandelaApartheidOliver Tambo , of interest to this wikiproject, were selected a while ago to be reviewed by external experts. We'd now like to ask interested editors to join our efforts and improve the articles before March 15, 2015 (any timezone) as they see fit; a revision will be then sent to the designated experts for review (for details, please see each articles' talk page). Any notes and remarks written by the external experts will be made available on the articles' talk pages under a CC-BY-SA license as soon as possible, so that you can read them, discuss them and then decide if and how to use them. Please sign up here to let us know you're collaborating. Thanks a lot for your support! Elitre (WPS) (talk) 17:32, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know about this Elitre (WPS). Sounds like a great project. Have you tried sending out an email about this to the Wikimedia ZA mailing list as well? --Discott (talk) 10:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind note! I haven't done so directly, no. Thank you for your suggestion, I will probably send an email there soon-ish, if nobody beats me at it. Further off-wiki engagement is definitely in my plans. Would you like to suggest other relevant venues for similar announcements? Best, --Elitre (WPS) (talk) 13:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey Discott, I did like you suggested - also crossposted to wikimediaza mailing list. Is there any article above which could interest you? I've seen people working on Apartheid already. Best, --Elitre (WPS) (talk) 10:21, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Elitre (WPS), I might improve Coal in South Africa a bit if I have some time. I must still also edit a number of other articles that are at risk of deletion so its not certain I will be able to do it. --Discott (talk) 19:53, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Wiki from Above 2015[edit]

Introducing Wiki From Above - an exciting new competition for aerial photographic and video media to be used on Wikipedia.

Wikimedia ZA has joined forces with FPV Fest SA to help encourage people to contribute aerial video and photographic content to Wikimedia Commons for use on Wikipedia.

For more information, please visit Wiki From Above 2015 --Humetheresa (talk) 10:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Primary School update[edit]

Hello again. As you know, several articles of interest to your wikiproject were selected a while ago to be reviewed by an external expert. We'd now like to ask interested editors to join our efforts and improve the following articles before March 31, 2015 (any timezone) as they see fit: Western Cape - Cradle of Humankind - Domestic violence in South Africa. A revision will be then sent to the designated expert for review. Any notes and remarks written by the external expert will be made available on the articles' talk pages under a CC-BY-SA license as soon as possible, so that you can read them, discuss them and then decide if and how to use them. Don't forget to sign up here to let us know you're collaborating ;) Thanks a lot for your support! --Elitre (WPS) (talk) 12:38, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Draft:2015 Cape wildfires[edit]

Any help here would be appreciated. Thanks. Nathan121212 (talk) 16:11, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Interview with Jimmy Wales[edit]

Meet the Wikipedians. Those "persnickety," techy types who keep your favorite Internet information website brimming with data.

Listen to the interview with Jimmy Wales on CBS's 60 minutes, a nice intro to what Wikipedia is all about.

--Humetheresa (talk) 07:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

South African Survey[edit]

We want to find out more about editors in South Africa and your experiences in the Wiki World!

Whether you are a very active editor / contributor, or just edit on occasion, please help us determine some key metrics by completing the online survey.

Many thanks --Humetheresa (talk) 11:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Pageview stats[edit]

After a recent request, I added WikiProject South Africa to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the Tool Labs tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 03:56, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Hideous drawings in SANDF related articles[edit]

Someone has been adding numerous amateurish "cartoonish" drawings of SANDF equipment to many articles. Some of the drawings are also fictional, depicting types and variants of items that do not actually exist. Meanwhile there are numerous actual photos available on commons which should be used instead of these cartoons. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:12, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Wiki from Above is reaching the end[edit]

Just a reminder about the Wiki from Above competition which comes to an end this month.

If you are in Cape Town, please join us for the final workshop.

Date  : 25 April
Time  : 10:00 - 12:00
8 Spin Street, Cape Town

There will be an tutorial on how to enter your submissions for the competition followed with by an upload marathon where you can submit your entries on Commons.

We hope to see you there!

Wiki Regards --Humetheresa (talk) 09:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Wiki from Above - Extension of Competition Date[edit]

Just a quick note to advise that the Wiki from Above competition has been extended. Closing dates for entries is now 25 May 2015.

To find out more about the competition, please visit the competition webpage.

--Humetheresa (talk) 07:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Wie dit mag aangaan[edit]

Ek het as kind daar gebly,en wil weet is dit al wat nog daar staan? Net die kerk? Kan daar nie meer fotos geplaas word nie of is daar iewers anders n site van my geliefkoosde dorpie? Wil net weet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:49, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi daar, ek werk vir Wikimedia ZA. Stuur asseblief vir my meer inligting dan kyk of ek of enige iemand in die Afrikaanse Wiki gemeenskap vir jou van hulp kan wees. Theresa Hume Groete, --Humetheresa (talk) 07:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Wiki from Above Workshop[edit]

Just a quick reminder of the upcoming Wiki from Above workshop in Cape Town, Saturday, 25 April at 10:00.

More details can be found on the competition page!

Remember, the competition has been extended to the end of May, so plenty of time to still submit your entries!

Wiki Regards --Humetheresa (talk) 07:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Denver train crash[edit]

I've created the Denver train crash article. Wikipedians in South Africa, particularly Johannesburg, will be in a better postition that I am to find sources and expand upon the article. Mjroots (talk) 10:50, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Geology of South Africa[edit]

I have started a draft for what should be one of the fundamental "about the country" articles, please feel free to contribute. I have only a very basic knowlege of geology - high school level (30 years ago) plus some casual reading since. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:50, 30 April 2015 (UTC)