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How about spacecraft in 2014?
I notice that there are quite a few articles in Category:2014 in spaceflight but no subcategory for any spacecraft which reentered in 2014. For those categories for 2013 and back I have added navigation boxes for past/future years eg Category:Spacecraft launched in 2013 or Category:Spacecraft which reentered in 2013. Hugo999 (talk) 05:41, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Consensus: using UTC to date off-world events
An editor recently "corrected" Buzz Aldrin's page to state he stepped onto the Moon on "July 20, 1969". While I, as one of many Americans, also remember seeing this on TV shortly before midnight in the Eastern time zone, I reverted the edit because I know this was discussed in the past, and consensus was reached that UTC should be used for events which happen off of Earth (as this one did at about 3:15 AM UTC). I can't remember exactly which talk page this was on, but it's probably been archived now. This editor is experienced, seems to be a valued contributer and holds admin rights, but probably isn't familiar with our little neck of the woods -- labeled it a "bad decision" and said "it is now inconsistent with other articles" (? I don't know this to be true, and this person hasn't replied.) (discussion is at the bottom of my talk page.) We also occasionally get the stray IP or newbie who thinks the same thing.
I think a reasonable case could be made that Houston (Central) time would be appropriate for the Apollo program, which was flight-controlled from there, though someone argued that no time zone has been established on the Moon, so this is the most appropriate (accepted as region-neutral). Do we want/need to revisit this, if at least just to document that there is a consensus? (Can anyone happen to remember where the discussion of this would be, or can easily find it?) JustinTime55 (talk) 19:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've got a feeling it was either in the archives of this page, or one of its predecessors. In any case MOS:DATE is very clear that the timezone where the event actually occurred (i.e. the Moon) should be used, and UT(C) is used for timekeeping in space. --W. D. Graham 19:36, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, WD. I think I found a good one: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spaceflight/Archive_5#Spaceflight article standards and conventions. JustinTime55 (talk) 21:04, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
News on lists of rocket launches
Hi all. I have 2 things to ask for assistance about the lists of rocket launches:
1. I have just completed a brand new List of Zenit launches (all 82 launches till May 2014) - feel free to check it out, improve it and find/correct errors if you can. :)
2. With the list of Zenit rocket launches completed, it seems that most of the main rocket families that requires (a) separate page(s) of list of launches (I arbitrarily put this at 50 launches; any rocket that has below 50 launches and probably will not exceed that in the near future can just put the list in the rockets' main articles) have complete lists on Wikipedia already.
The only major missing ones I can remember are for the long retired Scout rocket (100 orbital launches + 25 suborbital), the R-36 family (Tsyklon - 259 launches till today, most of them with non-notable payloads and the 260th launch may never happen - and Dnepr-1, which may or may not be included in the same list due to drastic changes from the R-36 to the R-36M; also I don't know if there's a list of R-16/36 missile launches somewhere) and the Kosmos rocket family, which has 600+ launches under the Kosmos name but with few notable launches, as well as an unknown number of R-12/14 missile launches. I don't know if they are worth doing (the latter two will require quite some hard work to complete them) or if there are other rockets that you feel would worth having a separate list of launches page. So I would like to ask if someone here is/are eager to join me in writing them up for good quick reference for the web, as well as feedback about what lists should be there, should not be there and how should they be structured.
Also I think the existing launch lists, while now completed (well it was hard work - the R-7 list is looooooonnnnnngggg! ;) ) will need extensive editing due to the sheer number of different table styles used and edits being made by so many people over a long period of time, which can cause errors to creep in and styles of data listing being incoherent (look at the Thor/Delta lists for example). I can only hope that our project group will have enough members to actively do the clean ups and maintain accuracy and consistency found in other types of lists for spaceflight.
So, any comments? How can we do this? :)
Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 20:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Chang'e 4 & return module
Is  the new lunar Earth reentry module part of Chang'e 4  ? From my understanding Chang'e 3 does not contain an orbital component to bus this new module, but Chang'e 4 will still repeat Chang'e 3's mission profile, lacking a component from which to perform the sample return capsule test. So is this new mission Chang'e 4 or some other mission? -- 18.104.22.168 (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- That's actually not related to Chang'e 4 - that's something else (I have seen reports of it being called "Chang'e 5 Precursor Mission" or "Chang'e 5-T1" - neither of which has been confirmed as the official name). <rant> Shame that the Chinese are so sparse on details of this spacecraft at around 2 months to launch, that I can't even start writing an article about it here! </rant> Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 10:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Reusable launch systems Template
Please, take a look at Template talk:Reusable launch systems - we need to sort out this template, cause it's a complete mess (or depending how you look at it - biased by US POV) right now. SkywalkerPL (talk) 19:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)