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WikiProject Spirits (Rated Project-class)
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WikiProject Food and drink / Beverages (Rated Project-class)
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Loch Lomond distillery[edit]

As I understand the sources, the current destillery (article topic) was founded 1965, so the part about "The real Loch Lomond brand was founded in Glasgow in the 1840s by Gabriel Bulloch" have no support. Can I have a second opinion on this? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Good question, I'll look into it. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:29, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


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Please note that List of alcoholic beverages, which is within this project's scope, has been selected to become a Today's Article for Improvement. The article is currently in the TAFI Holding Area, where comments are welcome about ideas to improve it. After the article is moved from the holding area to the TAFI schedule, it will appear on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Today's Article for Improvement" section for one week. Everyone is invited to participate in the discussion and encouraged to collaborate to improve the article.
Thank you,
TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
(From the TAFI team)

Old Tom gin.[edit]

Somebody please edit the Old Tom article, particularly its relationship to Dutch gin.Euonyman (talk) 18:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Euonyman! What changes did you had in mind? Is there a particular situation that makes it hard or uneasy for you to edit it yourself? Contributions are always welcome! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:46, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Absinthiana needs some love[edit]

The article's a bit of a mess, frankly, and needs some attention--especially sourcing. Thought I'd bring it to the attention of whoever's watching here, as it's not really within my areas of expertise or interest. (Well, I'm very interested in drinking absinthe, it's delicious...)  The Potato Hose  20:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Bacardi Superior importance[edit]

I was wondering if someone in the project could take a look at the Bacardi Superior article and see where it rates on the importance scale. I generally wouldn't go as far as asking on the project page but since Bacardi is a major brand of one of the major alcoholic bases, I figured that it might be worth bringing up. Thanks. Cat-fivetc ---- 20:51, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Cat-five, while Bacardi is important (and now shown as such) one of their products isn't, in itself, important. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 13:56, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough, but currently it has no rating at all (it's ???). Even unimportant articles generally get rated and I didn't/don't know enough about the Wikiproject Spirits rating system to do it myself. Cat-fivetc ---- 01:39, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
The rating system is fairly informal to be honest, I've gone ahead and rated it as low importance Cabe6403(TalkSign) 07:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
I'll remember that if it comes up in the future, some Wikiprojects can be, not to put too fine a point on it, defensive when it comes to their ratings which is why I asked. Thanks for rating it though. Cat-fivetc ---- 02:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


Hi WikiProject, I'm wondering how many people are still active. I'm planning to start some activity again, and am wondering how much is still happening around me, as there is quite a bit to do. Cheers, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martijn Hoekstra, I'm around and active on Wikipedia just not particularly in this project space currently. I'm willing to assist when I can if you have a plan in mind? I would suggest we tackle the unassessed articles and get everything rated first then we can set a SMART goal to work towards. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 23:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
It depends on the activity of the project. There is a big backlog of assessing, and I also think quite a backlog of articles that are in our scope, but aren't in the category yet. After that, we can start thinking of fun stuff. Assessment backlog drives, collaboration of the month articles, drafting lists of redlinks with priorities, maybe create some new lists or improve old ones. We have great opportunities to improve Wikipedia in this project, and I would love to get things off the ground. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Might be worth {{ping}}ing editors who have listed themselves as partcipants as well as recent commenters here as I'm sure not many check this talk page on a regular basis. Cabe6403(TalkSign) 07:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Watch me annoy the hell out of everyone :D @Craiglduncan: @Cuillins: @Jerem43: @Kgeurts: @Nightcafe1: @PeterS2009: @PirateBoss: @SteelersFan UK06: @Vapeur: @V0nNemizez: @Wahrmund: @Beefeaterdrinker: @Huckleberry113: @Rjhatl: @Francophile124: @Dcvtsellc: @Undererasure: @Bitterherbs1: @KawaiiDDoS: @Ethanbentley: @Gkleinman: @AaronRichard:

Well, it looks like it's the two of us. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
I was never listed as a participant but I've put some work into Scotch whisky. I would be interested in some other collaborations. --Laser brain (talk) 23:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
I am still alive, just been working on the WP:Food main page. I still available for grunt work... --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 01:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Glad to see people still wanting to put work in the project! I'd first like us to know where we stand, and make a dent in assessment (speaking of grunt work...). I want to draft an assessment drive this week still. Are there maybe people who would prefer to learn a little more about assessment first or shall we dive headlong into drafting a drive? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I would suggest diving in. Assessment isn't too complex and can easily be learned by doing Cabe6403(TalkSign) 12:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Great. I set up a draft over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spirits/Assessment Drives/September 2013. I never set up a drive, so if I'm doing things wrong or things could be done better, please be bold, and just go ahead and change things if you think that's better, discussion is optional. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Spirits at Wikimania 2014[edit]

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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

need table at bottom of every bourbon article[edit]

It would be nice if there were a navigational table at the bottom of every single bourbon article listing every type of bourbon

example: you go here's_Benchmark and then at the bottom there were would be a navigational table where you can select every other type of bourbon in kentucky.

There is something similar to the bourban trail navigational table, but that is only limited to certain members of an association.

Thanks for considering this! (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live![edit]

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Ketel One Vodka - help required[edit]

Hi, I wondered if anyone could help.

I'm a communications professional working with Ketel One Vodka and I'd like to suggest some changes to our Wikipedia page to add more insight and information.

The following changes I wish to be made are:

To be removed:
• Also known as Ketel 1


To be amended:
1793 needs amending to: • 1794: Under the control of Jacobus Nolet (5th generation), family members build the Nolet Distillery windmill, known as 'The Whale.'
1867 needs amending to: • 1867: The Nolet family acquires an interest in shipping and begins exporting spirits.
1979 needs amending to: • 1979: Carolus Nolet Sr. (10th generation) assumes control of the Nolet Distillery.
1983 needs amending to: • 1983: Carolus Nolet Sr. develops the Ketel One recipe and launches it in the USA.
1991 needs amending to: • 1991: Nolet Spirits USA is founded, whilst Carl Nolet Jr. (11th generation) moves to the United States to dedicate himself to the growth of the company.
2000 needs amending to: • 2000: The Nolet Distillery produces a super-premium, flavoured vodka, Ketel One Citroen, which is launched in the USA.
2002 needs amending to: • 2002: Ketel One Vodka reaches the 1,000,000 case mark.
2003 needs amending to: • 2003: The first national Ketel One print advertising campaign, “Dear Ketel One Drinker”, launches in the USA.

To be added:
2009: The first television campaign for Ketel One Vodka launched in the USA.
2010: A new orange-flavoured vodka, Ketel One Oranje, is launched in the USA.

To be removed:
2011: Ketel One Worldwide has grown the brand to 2,000,000 cases. Ketel One is now sold in over 50 countries

Would anyone be able to help with this? It really would be appreciated.


AdamF Grayling (talk) 15:03, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I removed the "Ketel 1" statement since it's unsourced anyway, but the entire Timeline needs to go because it's plagiarized from the company website and is a copyright violation. We cannot accept copyrighted text as part of Wikipedia articles. The text is promotional in nature anyway—Wikipedia is not for marketing and promotional purposes. I do appreciate you declaring your position, and encourage you to review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and WP:PAY in particular. --Laser brain (talk) 15:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
(ec)Hi Adam. Thanks for reaching out suggesting improvements as well as declaring your conflict of interest. The current article we have is an unholy mess, I completely agree with your there. I don't mind working on it to attempt to bring it to a more reasonable state. Currently, the articles greatest problems are firstly that it's entirely unreferenced; it's in dire need of reliable sources, independent of the company/brand that give significant coverage about the subject, and speaking of the subject, the article seems to conflate Nolet (the org), Ketel One/Ketel 1 (the brand name) and Ketel One vodka (the product) to the point where it is unclear what the article is actually about. Re-focussing the article is probably a good idea, with Nolet as the likeliest target, since it's the central subject. If the need arises we can always spin out articles. Until then, redirecting the other titles is probably a good idea. The best thing you can do to help, is finding sources. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources is a good guide to get a feel of what we're looking for. Kind regards, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:18, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
As for the quick basics, is it correct that Ketel One is a brand name owned by Ketel One U.S.A., which is 50/50 jointly owned by the Nolet group (through Nolet International B.V.) and Diageo? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)