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Request for comment on Biographies of living people[edit]

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Unreferenced living people articles bot[edit]

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Is the Paranormal pseudoscience[edit]

A discussion has been started at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#Is_the_paranormal_pseudoscience.3F. Unomi (talk) 05:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Glossary of spirituality-related terms[edit]

I have created Glossary of spirituality-related terms from a set of separate eight pages. It needs to be checked by an expert to see if it has the right balance to the set of entries. See Talk:Glossary of spirituality-related terms. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Meditation[edit]

I request that anyone please add their support/oppose rationale to the debate regarding the lede to Meditation, in the following thread;

I emphasize my request for brief reasoning. This debate has a history (on the talk page); my role has simply been to try and get things on-track, to form a consensus.

I am posting here, and on the other two project group talk pages which are listed on that pages talk.

I would be very grateful for some help, to resolve this issue. Many thanks,  Chzz  ►  19:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Now a second discussion, to clarify; quite a simple suggestion, and it could really do with more input, if anyone can contribute to the discussion, thanks,  Chzz  ►  15:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Spirituality articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release[edit]

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Possible change in project scope[edit]

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Potential changes in subprojects regarding a proposal to change the scope of this project. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 15:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing[edit]

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Proposed annual interreligious discussion[edit]

I have proposed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion#Annual meeting? that maybe a page be created which could be used for the annual discussion of religious matters here at wikipedia on an interreligious basis. Any input there would be more than welcome. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments needed on scope of Christian mysticism article[edit]

What should be included and what should be left out? Please weigh in at Talk:Christian mysticism#Scope of the article as of March 2011. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Request for input in discussion forum[edit]

Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome. John Carter (talk)

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New spirituality redirect pages created, please edit as necessary[edit]

I've been correcting the redlinks in the some of the Category:Catholic spirituality pages, and I created several redirect pages that link to appropriate sections of Catholic spirituality: Benedictine spirituality, Dominican spirituality, Franciscan spirituality and Carmelite spirituality. If any of these topics have a better redirect target, please change them accordingly. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 20:30, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Kriya yoga[edit]

Relative to a discussion here, can someone who is familiar with yogic master lineages look over this article with an eye to identifying objective sources and clarifying the prose style? - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Walk ins -- how do I make a contribution to this Page knowledge?[edit]

My name is Steven Ward and I publish work under the pseudonyms strongangelstar (video, music, song) and Adventer (scripture). I also wrote a screenplay in 1999 under my name. I live in Hastings, in the UK, which is known to possess a powerful magnetic field, equivalent to the Sargasso Sea region Lyall Watson suggested.

I was investigating comet HALE BOPP, facts about it, when I came across the subject of the Heavens Gate sect (1997), and then the topic of “walk ins”. The latter was of interest to me because I had just such an experience in 1995, and indeed went onto write a Film Script about that event and did twice attempt to sell it as a screen play in Los Angeles. I had an arrangement to return there a third time, to keep a verbal arrangement to meet a Director/Producer, Peter Segal, however I was attacked and left for dead - hours after leaving images of what I saw at 10 Downing St - on the streets of my hometown before I could make those arrangements (April 1999) and broken could not return.

I cannot speak for any other individual or group, which is why I never goet involved in any, or did not take too much notice of the Heavens Gate cult as they were then reported. However at the time, e.g. the late 1990’s I was in my own mind very aware that Hale-Bopp was no mere comet but was something far more important in the Universal system of things. I knew then, and wholly believe now Hale-Bopp did come to collect Souls and also to leave here other 'Strong Souls' to assist a transformation about to occur upon the Earth plane. To put it simply their task was to assist the Souls not able to escape the Earth plane in this momentous time to survive the imminent transformations - within a a generation - due to occur.

To be quite honest with you I felt I was alone in what I had experienced; else had deep suspicions about the authenticity of some of the reports of “walk ins” as I now know them to be called. But that is not to say other people are not explaining what they know correctly. To begin with none of there experiences seemed to be as informed as my own; and although the experience I had was profound and has altered my thinking permanently I suspected my inner willing to rationalise them with religion, as others have, was the result of a life time of conditioning rather than insightful. That being said, without detailing them here, I have, and do, and am able to produce prophetic and at times proactively influential results when I focus upon events I am somehow drawn to.

Anyhow, I write this because I would like to contribute something meaningful to the “walk ins” section of wikipedia. In my case I was the central one of a v-wing i.e. a flight in the pattern of a >, consisting of seven souls who came into the Earth plane... for want of a better way of putting it. An image which better describes this is viewable on Flickr (link via youtube; see below). I was the foremost and central individual in the wing (yes my own Soul or the one that came to me?)and in a very short telepathic communication I was advised "don't worry, you are on a mission". To this day what or why this mission is I do not know. All I know is what I am honestly setting down here in this text.

I can explain to you that a Soul is an Orb, dressed with light. The pattern of the raiment is realised on the human skin (each human unique), and that each Soul has the facial features of its owner, which are inward, as like a wall socket, and delineated as like a caricature. In fact to look upon the geometry of the human face is to look upon what is a truly beautiful drawing; each souls face is unique to each individual, just as human and all faces of creatures great and small are. I would describe the facial features – all - as the geometry of God, and therefore of Life. I am also able to say the state of the Soul is the state of universal peace and knowledge and Life connection; that being contrary to the state of the “living soul”.

I too affirm that the Soul is a dark object and that within a Man it is at the core of the body; the sprite in reformation terms? The Soul is the very space within, which achieves body existence by reacting with the energy of Carbon 12, which energy is describable as Spirit; that the Soul is introduced by the Father at conception and that the Spirit is activated by the Mother at the same time as (delivered up with the first carbon particles constituent to the egg). Spirit exists in the skeleton and where the Soul resides, i.e. within the ribcage, those bones are the begirding "pile" of the reaction spoke of; sustaining the reaction during each individual’s entire living soul existence. Is this why Adamic Man - new man - was formed from a rib?

I urge you to check out my work on http://www.youtube.com/strongangelstar and follow the links there elsewhere (Adventer for example). I also give you my word I am not hoaxing you or attempting in any way top make commercial gains or similar. I am simply attempting to help wikipedia give an accurate 360-degree account of the walk in experience.

Please let me know if and how I can make a contribution … Thank You. Strongangelstar (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Walk ins -- how do I make a contribution to this Page knowledge?[edit]

My name is Steven Ward and I publish work under the pseudonyms strongangelstar (video, music, song) and Adventer (scripture). I also wrote a screenplay in 1999 under my name. I live in Hastings, in the UK, which is known to possess a powerful magnetic field, equivalent to the Sargasso Sea region Lyall Watson suggested.

I was investigating comet HALE BOPP, facts about it, when I came across the subject of the Heavens Gate sect (1997), and then the topic of “walk ins”. The latter was of interest to me because I had just such an experience in 1995, and indeed went onto write a Film Script about that event and did twice attempt to sell it as a screen play in Los Angeles. I had an arrangement to return there a third time, to keep a verbal arrangement to meet a Director/Producer, Peter Segal, however I was attacked and left for dead - hours after leaving images of what I saw at 10 Downing St - on the streets of my hometown before I could make those arrangements (April 1999) and broken could not return.

I cannot speak for any other individual or group, which is why I never goet involved in any, or did not take too much notice of the Heavens Gate cult as they were then reported. However at the time, e.g. the late 1990’s I was in my own mind very aware that Hale-Bopp was no mere comet but was something far more important in the Universal system of things. I knew then, and wholly believe now Hale-Bopp did come to collect Souls and also to leave here other 'Strong Souls' to assist a transformation about to occur upon the Earth plane. To put it simply their task was to assist the Souls not able to escape the Earth plane in this momentous time to survive the imminent transformations - within a a generation - due to occur.

To be quite honest with you I felt I was alone in what I had experienced; else had deep suspicions about the authenticity of some of the reports of “walk ins” as I now know them to be called. But that is not to say other people are not explaining what they know correctly. To begin with none of there experiences seemed to be as informed as my own; and although the experience I had was profound and has altered my thinking permanently I suspected my inner willing to rationalise them with religion, as others have, was the result of a life time of conditioning rather than insightful. That being said, without detailing them here, I have, and do, and am able to produce prophetic and at times proactively influential results when I focus upon events I am somehow drawn to.

Anyhow, I write this because I would like to contribute something meaningful to the “walk ins” section of wikipedia. In my case I was the central one of a v-wing i.e. a flight in the pattern of a >, consisting of seven souls who came into the Earth plane... for want of a better way of putting it. An image which better describes this is viewable on Flickr (link via youtube; see below). I was the foremost and central individual in the wing (yes my own Soul or the one that came to me?)and in a very short telepathic communication I was advised "don't worry, you are on a mission". To this day what or why this mission is I do not know. All I know is what I am honestly setting down here in this text.

I can explain to you that a Soul is an Orb, dressed with light. The pattern of the raiment is realised on the human skin (each human unique), and that each Soul has the facial features of its owner, which are inward, as like a wall socket, and delineated as like a caricature. In fact to look upon the geometry of the human face is to look upon what is a truly beautiful drawing; each souls face is unique to each individual, just as human and all faces of creatures great and small are. I would describe the facial features – all - as the geometry of God, and therefore of Life. I am also able to say the state of the Soul is the state of universal peace and knowledge and Life connection; that being contrary to the state of the “living soul”.

I too affirm that the Soul is a dark object and that within a Man it is at the core of the body; the sprite in reformation terms? The Soul is the very space within, which achieves body existence by reacting with the energy of Carbon 12, which energy is describable as Spirit; that the Soul is introduced by the Father at conception and that the Spirit is activated by the Mother at the same time as (delivered up with the first carbon particles constituent to the egg). Spirit exists in the skeleton and where the Soul resides, i.e. within the ribcage, those bones are the begirding "pile" of the reaction spoke of; sustaining the reaction during each individual’s entire living soul existence. Is this why Adamic Man - new man - was formed from a rib?

I urge you to check out my work on http://www.youtube.com/strongangelstar and follow the links there elsewhere (Adventer for example). I also give you my word I am not hoaxing you or attempting in any way top make commercial gains or similar. I am simply attempting to help wikipedia give an accurate 360-degree account of the walk in experience.

Please let me know if and how I can make a contribution … Thank You. Strongangelstar (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed MOS for Religion[edit]

There is now a proposed general Manual of Style for Religion and other articles relating to ethoses or belief systems at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. Any input would be welcome. I personally believe at least one of the reasons why many articles in this field have been as contentious as they have been is because of lack of such guidelines, and would very much welcome any input from others to help come up with some generally acceptable solutions to some of these problems. John Carter (talk) 22:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Negative theology[edit]

This is what the article says:

"What we can safely say is that it cannot be proven empirically or otherwise that God is existent, therefore God is not non-existent."

This is a contradictory statement. Let me simplify it:

"It cannot be proven by any means that God is existent. Therefore, God exists."

This is exactly what the article says, and it makes absolutely no sense.


A few sentences later, another absurdity pops up: "However we can safely say that God is not ignorant."

Um, no we can't. There is nothing in the article that backs this up. Someone went on a speculative, personal rant about what they think God is, and this is not based in reason at all. This is not the kind of thing that belongs on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.146.228 (talk) 21:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at RSN about Robert Almeder[edit]

There is a discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard about whether an article on reincarnation by Robert Almeder, professor emeritus of philosophy at Georgia State University, is a reliable source for the article on Ian Stevenson (1918–2007). Several editors have objected to it because Almeder published it in Journal of Scientific Exploration, a journal that deals with anomalies (fringe issues). Uninvolved input would be very helpful. See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Robert_Almeder. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 19:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

GAR[edit]

New Age, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 13:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Universalism[edit]

I have attempted to cleanup the Template:Universalism infobox. But I feel it still needs some work. It would be good if others could have a look and see what they can add to it in the way of links, formatting and categorization. --Devin Murphy (talk) 18:41, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Article for Deletion: Dolores Cannon[edit]

Does anyone have information about Dolores Cannon? Her article is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dolores Cannon. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 19:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Article for inclusion[edit]

Hi there - I've been working on Process-oriented psychology and another editor suggested it might be of interest to this project. I agree, so wondering if someone here can check it out, or if I should boldly go ahead and add it? - the article is about a depth/transpersonal psychology - growing out of Jungian thought and definitely moving into modern alternative spirituality stuff - one source describes it as 'modern eclectic shamanism'. Depthdiver (talk) 19:39, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

To reach spiritual heights[edit]

Now,every religion we see is indulge in rites and worldly practises in which our spirit is not at all involved. So the work in which our spirit is not involved is not what the actual master of each religion has taught.when the Master of religion leave his wordly body than the religion go to the path of misunderstanding of the actual thing Masters have taught. Now,about spirit and mind we have lot of confusions.so in order to achieve spiritual heights we must hyave knowlegde About it.spirit is only thing which is immortal.even mind is mortal.In this plane(phYsical world)mind has dominated our Soul(spirit).and mind is also dominated by our senses(10 in number:-2eYes,2nostrils,2ears,1tongue,external genitale). Mind is also dominated by 5 satans(sexual pleasures,anger,greed,love for our relatives,over proud).so ythede all Things are controlling mind. Spirit is sleeping a sleep of no knowlegde. and knowledge to awake spirit cannot be found In any svcripture or holy book but we get it when we have a true living master and he advice us to meditate by not leaving Ones home or wordly work but performing it and meditating on god. When we meditate on true guru's( master's)opinion then onlY We can achieve hieghts of spirituality and we get knownledge of our self (from where we came and where we should have to go). So without living true master it is waste of time to meditate. Now what is the defination of true living master and how we can fin him:- See the person is not in a position to define such a living being. We cannot distinguish normal person from True master becoz they also do worldly things like ourself and they also have body like our self. So we have No power to find satguru(true living master). But when we confront him and see him we will get satisfication We will get some peace from seeing his face.this is only our poweer to find him.also if one have keen desire To get rid of this worldlY things then that living master will shower his blessings and will give his identity.

So finally nothing is in the hand of person. It is only with god's grace and our karmas of previous lifes will get Us to true living master. Also one who gets true living master is most destined person becoz richness is not the one which make onself very destined But one who gets true living master is most u can say luckiest person becoz he saves us from the sin of lifes and deaths And make ouself one with god(supreme being) through the meditation and his blessings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.253.215.41 (talk) 06:57, 2 April 2014 (UTC)