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WikiProject Stanford University (Rated NA-class)
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Really needed?[edit]

I have worked on some of these (I am an alumnus), but a project with one member? Seems like overkill to create a project. W Nowicki (talk) 02:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Well it has just started and hasn't been advertised too widely. We shall see.--Erp (talk) 06:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Erp, do you have any recommendations on how to advertise the WikiProject more widely? I'm going to go through Wikipedians by Alma Mater and see who has "Stanford" on their userpage, but what else? Is the other way to go and see who edits Stanford pages frequently? ralphamale (talk) 21:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
These projects tend to have a variety of involvement levels; I find it a useful organizational tool when there are only a few editors policing and improving what can be 100+ articles in a subject area. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi guys, I'm the one who started the WikiProject. I currently attend the school and realize that for such a great university, there's not really the breadth of articles I would like for it. That's why I created it. I'm having trouble figuring out how to make this a great WP and could really use any help you all could give me. Thanks! ralphamale (talk) 20:41, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Definitions of importance levels?[edit]

How should we define the importance levels of Top, High, Mid, Low? I noticed a few things that seem out of place --Erp (talk) 06:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I was more or less guessing with many of those, given that I've never attended Stanford- if you feel that they're out of place, feel free to change them. I tend to prioritize physical aspects of the campus (buildings, subcampuses) and historical figures. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
It will balance out over time. People will tend to assess the top end of articles first as those have the most interest but will balance out over time. Don't be shy about applying the tag! --Esprqii (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Any thoughts of figuring the importance level of people? I imagine every president and provost would be Top-importance. Football coaches would probably vary (I imagine Pop Warner and Bill Walsh at High-importance, Jack Curtice and Walt Harris at Low-importance). What do we do about alumni? Would Herbert Hoover, William Rehnquist, Stephen Breyer, Jerry Yang, Sergey Brin, and others at the top of their field be High, Mid, or Low? Would it depend on their level of fame? OCNative (talk) 03:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I'm more restrictive with importance levels - the only articles that are top-importance should be Stanford University, Stanford Cardinals, and Stanford Cardinals football. And remember, there are far more alumni than you can hope to ever include in the project- it's best to focus on articles more directly related to Stanford. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 14:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
I took a first stab at some guidelines for assessment based on general Wikipedia standards and put that here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stanford University/Assessment. Only a first cut, so please refine as needed. --Esprqii (talk) 19:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Looks great. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Herbert Hoover should be high because he was on the Board of Trustees for decades and lived on campus for many years (he gave his house to be the house of the University president after his wife died); he also established the Hoover Institute. I'll do a check through on some alumni prominent in Stanford. --Erp (talk) 04:40, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

SRI International[edit]

Also strictly speaking SRI is completely separate from Stanford and has been since the 1970s so I'm not sure it should fall under this project (anymore than say Xerox PARC should). --Erp (talk) 07:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I assumed that they were more related than they are now. As you know, I've been modeling this project off of WikiProject Georgia Tech; Georgia Tech and its corresponding research institute are rather closely tied, so the task force made more sense there. I'd suggest splitting SRI into its own WikiProject, but there are only 15 or so articles related to it, so it's not a huge priority. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Sports task force?[edit]

I've been thinking a Stanford project is a great idea for a while. How about a sports task force? -- Esprqii (talk) 17:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I've found that sports articles tend to receive a great deal of pageviews, so that may be a good idea. I'll see about adding that to the infobox tonight. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Here you go: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stanford University/Stanford Athletics task force. Add sport=yes to the project template to mark it for that task force. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Awesome, I've got lots of articles to start tagging. --Esprqii (talk) 21:11, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Once the WP 1.0 bot runs through the task force category, the assessment stats template on that page won't be a redlink any more, so don't worry about that :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
I see it has the quality stats, but importance is not in there; does that come automatically as well, or do you have to flip another switch? --Esprqii (talk) 17:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I think I figured out how to do that. There are a couple options there- you can have an importance setting independent of the main project importance. Downside: you'd have to add that parameter to all of the sports articles. Right now I'm just using the regular "importance" rating to test it. The bot page is resisting at the moment, so we'll see if that worked within a day, I think. Another option I thought of is doing something like the following: {{{sport-importance|{{{importance|}}}}}} which uses sport-importance if it's present, and importance otherwise. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:57, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I think using the regular project importance is fine. The importance should be in terms of the overall project, not just the task force. That's a bit too granular, IMHO. --Esprqii (talk) 21:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree. So, judging on the SRI International task force, the change worked. I'm going to take what I learned and apply it to the Georgia Tech project when I get a chance, thanks for poking me to do this :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:43, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

How to recruit more people to join?[edit]

So glad that you guys joined the WikiProject. What would be the best way to get more people to join in? Would it be proper etiquette for me to find those who are already active on Stanford's pages and inform them about this fledgling WikiProject? ralphamale (talk) 21:26, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I suggest making a little invitation and putting it on people's talk pages. Something like this: Template:WikiProject Oregon invite is short and sweet. There are many more ways to do it, some more elaborate than others (see Category:WikiProject_invitation_templates.) It's pretty commonly done and I don't think most people consider it rude. --Esprqii (talk) 21:46, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the examples. Do you think that would be the best thing to do at this point? I want there to be a framework, such that anyone who comes into the Wikiproject, would know what to do. But I'm not sure if that comes before or after we get more people to join in? ralphamale (talk) 17:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
You might seek out people who are likely to be interested first; chances are, people who watch pages that fall into this category have already seen it and will join up. It could only help to get motivated people in here to start putting things together and building infrastructure. You don't have to have it totally done before you invite people. --Esprqii (talk) 17:54, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. Two questions then 1. I'm trying to add a list of Sample Articles to Work On for more modestly motivated to work on if they were to just go on the page.... Should that just be based on my judgment of what is important and what the assessment tool rates? 2. I tried to tweak the WikiProject page a bit because even right now, it seems very cluttered compared to like Georgia Tech's and Cornell's WikiProject table layout. I'm having a lot of trouble though with the code. Is there a guide somewhere or could I get someone to help with that? ralphamale (talk) 18:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Take a look at [[1]] for some suggestions and resources. And, yes, definitely use your judgment. It's best to take the lead and get things moving in some direction. I'd focus on articles that are top/high priority that are rated stub/start class, but some people find it intimidating to jump in to such important articles and would rather fill in some stubs. So if you can identify some missing people/places/things that should be covered but aren't yet, those are good places to work on as well. (I added a couple of these in the Athletics task force.) --Esprqii (talk) 18:40, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
New member here. (I guess we're all new since the WikiProject only started last month, but I only joined a few minutes ago.) There's a natural base of potential members at Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Stanford University. The category has 71 pages, of which 1 is the user template, and 2 are already members (erp and me), so there's 69 potential new members. OCNative (talk) 03:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip OCNative. I will contact them soon as well as doing a scan of people who have edited Wikipedia articles re: Stanford. OCNative, do you know anything about beautifying the actual Wikiproject page? I am not very good at design, but I think the Wikiproject page would benefit from being organized like Cornell's WikiProject. Thoughts? ralphamale (talk) 18:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Quick question... When I'm subst'ing the invitation onto potential members' profiles, should I do it on their user page or their talk pages? Thanks! ralphamale (talk) 20:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Talk page is better. Some people get mad if you mess up their user page. --Esprqii (talk) 22:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Biography task force?[edit]

Might we want to start a biography task force? The list of Stanford University people has over 900 people, and that's not all the Stanford people with articles. I imagine there will be more articles about staff and alumni than any other type of article, and it'd be a good way to get attention for the project. OCNative (talk) 03:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I'd be interested in working on the "people" articles. --MelanieN (talk) 01:11, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I think that a Biography task force would be a great idea. And you're right, it would create awareness for the WikiProject. Could you start it please? ralphamale (talk) 21:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I've created the task force. Just add biography=yes to add an article to the task force. MelanieN, I hope you don't mind my adding you to the list, based on your comment above. OCNative (talk) 07:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good, OCN. Where do you want to start? I was thinking of beginning with the articles about the presidents. Some of them are pretty bare-bones - or need to be wikified. --MelanieN (talk) 14:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
I've started working on the Donald Tresidder article. It needed a lot of work - better now but could still use improvement. --MelanieN (talk) 17:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Presidents sound good. I've added an infobox for Lyman. His wife, Jing, may well deserve her own article. --Erp (talk) 05:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I just started an article about Robert E. Swain. He seems pretty important... I added him to {{Stanford Presidents}} as well. Disavian (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

New Recruiting Templates[edit]

Hi all, I've added a template for inviting people to the Stanford WikiProject and also for welcoming them as well. You can see them on our front page. ralphamale (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Whoops! I just got smacked by a bot for having a "non-free file", namely the Stanford seal in your invitation, on my user talk page. The bot said that "non-free" files are not allowed on user pages or user talk pages - only in articles. Apparently the Stanford seal is a non-free file, allowed in articles under the fair-use doctrine, but not allowed anywhere else. Looks like you're going to have to remove the seal from your invitation template, or else have everybody get annoyed by the bot. Nice try, though, it was a nice looking invitation! --MelanieN (talk) 14:55, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Are there any alternatives to that? I guess I'll stick to a text-only template for now :) ralphamale (talk) 21:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Hope you don't mind that I added the red S to the greeting to replace the seal. OCNative (talk) 07:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Loved it. Thanks! ralphamale (talk) 22:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

"Participants" page not updating on main page?[edit]

I can't seem to figure out why it's not updating. Does anyone know why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.67.131.17 (talk) 00:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Stanford university categories[edit]

I've taken a quick look at the Category:Stanford University and I think it needs some work. I've gone over Category:Stanford University people and I think for the most part it and its subcategories are in reasonably good shape. However what over second level categories should we have and what should be in them? We have Category:Stanford University places with a subcategory of buildings and structures and we could move things like the Research Park and the the Shopping Center there. Much of the remainder is a real mish mash. --Erp (talk) 20:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

How to boost Wikiproject participation? / How to track which Wikiproject members are doing what?[edit]

I just had one two questions for you all: 1) How do you guys think we can boost participation to our Wikiproject? Do you think that adding a monthly article to collaborate on would help? 2) Do you think it's necessary to keep track of what Wikiproject members are doing? How do we know when we're closer to meeting our goals? ralphamale (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Try the WikiProject Watchlist for WikiProject Stanford University. Of course, that depends on whether the articles people are working on are actually in the project; I've worked on a lot of SRI-related biographies but many of them aren't totally Stanford-related, so I've been hesitant to put the project tag onto them. Disavian (talk) 21:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
You'll notice that the WikiProject Watchlist also lets you get a list of most-edited articles in the last day/week/month, which is nice. Disavian (talk) 21:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Categories for faculty[edit]

Please see the discussion at Category talk:Stanford University faculty. I've asked the editor to slow down and discuss a bit before doing more. Dicklyon (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Category for Company spin-offs[edit]

I was surprised to find out that Wikipedia did not provide categories for Company spin-offs. I started one, but can't see an easy way to find the companies spun-off from Stanford. Any help populating Category:Company spin-offs would be appreciated. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

External watchlist added to this wikiproject[edit]

Check it out at the bottom of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stanford_University. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Categorization task for faculty[edit]

In bits and spurts a couple of people have been trying to categorize the Stanford faculty listed at Category:Stanford University faculty into the appropriate department or school subcategories. Unfortunately there are 200+ entries. It would help if a few more people could volunteer to work through one or two letters (first letter of last name) and modify the Stanford Faculty category of each to the appropriate subcategory (e.g., Stanford University Department of English faculty or Stanford Graduate School of Business faculty). In a few cases the person in question has a joint appointment so should have multiple categories (I've tended to ignore at this time courtesy appointments). In a fair number of cases where the person should go is unclear (or possibly they were never faculty), so I've left them for later. On the talk page for the overarching category, I've put some links to the history of Stanford department names which might prove useful. I've done A-C and will continue with D-F. Anyone willing to volunteer for other letters? (as an incentive, some UC wiki editors are trying to organize their faculty category, let's see if we can beat them :-) --Erp (talk) 04:58, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Discussion on consolidating inactive and semi-active university WikiProjects[edit]

This project may be affected by a proposed consolidation of inactive and semi-active WikiProjects covering universities. The proposed consolidation is being discussed on the talk page of WikiProject Universities. We are seeking feedback from the projects that may be impacted before we decide on a course of action. Please drop by to participate in the discussion. Thanks! –Mabeenot (talk) 06:53, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

College basketball team navigation templates[edit]

Please join the discussion at the College Basketball Wikiproject for forming a consensus on the creation of a basic navigation template for college basketball teams. CrazyPaco (talk) 09:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Main Quad[edit]

I note that according to a recent addition to the Talk:Stanford University that the picture of the Main Quad will be a picture of the day on August. I note also that no separate article on the Main Quad exists (there is one on the church). Does it deserve its own article (I think so) and can we get a good one together before August 8? To begin with what should it be called (Stanford Main Quad, Stanford Main Quadrangle, "Main Quad, Stanford University", other)? Ideally we should have pictures, a line map annotated (the four corners: history, geology, mathematics, engineering; the church; memorial court) and description, history (cornerstone laid, architects, 1906 and 1989 quake effects), current use. I've set up a sandbox at User:Erp/Sandbox Stanford Main Quad and feel free to contribute --Erp (talk) 04:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

It seems that "Main Quadrangle" is the official term, so I'd say Main Quadrangle (Stanford University) is probably the best choice, since there are other schools with Main Quadrangles (a quick search finds Campus of the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign and Trinity College (Connecticut)#Main_Quadrangle for starters). We should also add a DAB page with links to the other Main Quadrangles. I do note that the University tends to lump Main Quadrangle and Memorial Court together, but as separate entities so we need to note that in the article. Separate articles are probably not needed at this point. You have a good start! I'll try to contribute as time allows. FYI, for reference on content, you probably already saw other similar articles such as Quadrangle (Harvard), Memorial Quadrangle (Yale), University of Alabama Quad.--Esprqii (talk) 05:32, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

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Stanford University student housing[edit]

I've been working on the Stanford University student housing article and would like some help on deciding which direction to take this article. Also how much can we take out of section on housing in the main Stanford University article and place in it so as to make the main article punchier. --Erp (talk) 00:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

National Historic Sites at Stanford[edit]

I note California historic landmarks at Stanford include

  • NO. 834 EADWEARD MUYBRIDGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF MOTION PICTURES
  • NO. 913 LOU HENRY HOOVER HOUSE

The National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Santa_Clara_County,_California has four sites at Stanford but only two have articles

just for the record. --Erp (talk) 23:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)