Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/List of stubs

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Number of columns[edit]

Is it really best to have this page in a four-column layout? I've got my browser's text size set to "smaller" (as opposed to "larger") and still have 1) a horizontal scroll bar, and 2) a sizable number of items that have word-wrapped to a second line. Perhaps a more vertical layout is called for: annoying as they can be, it's often less annoying than having to scroll horizontallly, too.  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 21:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Massive update[edit]

This page needs massive update. None of the history stub article (Indian, South Asian) I'm associated with are here. Is there a system of updating this page? Aditya Kabir 19:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Any member of WP:WSS can add missing templates and categories to the list. Just be sure to check in the edit history that the template / category has been approved by WP:WSS. Valentinian T / C 22:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Btw, have you checked "History by location"? Valentinian T / C 22:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

General[edit]

Why is there a "General" header here? I don't understand its contents. As a word, general seems to be the same as miscellaneous. In puzzlement, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

"General" is for the coarsest and most general stub templates and categories - that is, for the catch-all types used before stubs have been further sorted into one of the many subtypes. "Miscellaneous" is for subtypes that don't naturally fit under one of the other headings. Thus, for instance, {{Stub}}, the most basic unsorted template, goes under "General", but {{Philately-stub}} - a sorted type which doesn't fit any of the other headings - goes under "Miscellaneous". Grutness...wha? 00:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks. But the General section says that {{Stub}} has been deprecated, which in Wikilingo means it is no longer being added to pages. Am I correct in that? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:32, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Not quite - deprecated can mean "no longer in use", but it has another meaning - "tolerated, but there are better things that can or should be used". Stub is still regularly used as a basic template but it is usually quickly replaced for a subject-specific stub type by stub sorters. It' still useful to have around - especially since bots go through looking for unmarked stubs every now and again, or database dumps are done to add it to all untemplated short articles. The bots/dump can simply add {{stub}} without having to have some way of checking for subject matter (which would probably be impossible to program). also, editors who don't know all the thousands of different stub types can simply add it to any new article they create, knowing that it will be sorted by other editors. That's why Category:stubs is sometimes completely empty, and why after a bot-run or database dump it can contain a couple of thousand articles. Grutness...wha? 01:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. There was quite a dust-up in one of the other Talk Pages I was visiting a few weeks ago about the meaning of deprecate. Many Wikipedians have adopted the computer-jargon version of meaning "no longer being used although it will still work." Frankly, I think the word is confusing for most editors, even longstanding ones like me. I am going to try to make the statement on the Project Page here a bit more useful. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Note that both meanings (plus a third related one) are listed at Wikipedia:Glossary#Deprecated. Grutness...wha? 05:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; I had never seen that page before. The definition as spelled out and used elsewhere on WP is as I have said. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 07:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

General: Can we change the name?[edit]

Regarding the rubric "General." I believe it is confusing. Can we change it to "Introductory explanation," or something like that? For the umpteenth time I clicked on it, assuming I would find a list of "general" topics, but I did not. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 23:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Not sure that that name would be much better, since it's more to list the main, unsubcategorised stubs than to explain anything. I've changed it to "Generic stub types" , which is hopefully a little more self-explanatory. Grutness...wha? 23:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, that sounds like it will do the trick and keep me away from clicking there unless I want a, well, a "Generic stub type." Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Where would the LGBT stubs be located?[edit]

I can't figure out which link on this page would lead me to the LGBT stubs; I eventually gave up and ran a search for them. Are they not listed here? If so, where? If not, where should they added? Aristophanes68 (talk) 21:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Magazines in 2 places, Newspapers only one...[edit]

I've just spotted that there's a long list of magazine stubs under Miscellaneous / Communication, which goes into more detail than the list at Culture / Media Publications - but on the other hand newspapers are at the latter and not the former. I don't know quite how placement in these hierarchical lists is established, but someone might like to have a look and sort it out (not volunteering myself). PamD (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Since "Miscellaneous" to me says "Stuff we couldn't figure out where to put", I'm going to move the magazines into Culture. --Qetuth (talk) 09:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

New shortcut[edit]

I've created Wikipedia:STUBSHORT to be a redirect to this page. It shouldn't be too controversial, but do tell me if you aren't happy with it. Guoguo12--Talk--  23:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Further splits of this page[edit]

Some of these pages, and the sections within the pages, are getting excessive (again), making it more difficult than neccesary to search or update. I've split a couple of longer sections in half with subheadings, but I was thinking it might be time for some extra subpages:

  • Split Locations/Structures away from Geography - about 20% of a very long (1Mb) page.
  • Split Sports Bios away from Sports - about 75% of a 700kb file, and these are almost the only bios not in 'People'.
  • Split Music away from Culture - about 25% of a 400kb file, maybe include film as well. It could even go straight into Leisure, which is quite tiny.

--Qetuth (talk) 15:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)