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Requested move for Pacific Motorway (Brisbane–North Coast NSW)[edit]

I have requested that Pacific Motorway (Brisbane–North Coast NSW) be moved. The move discussion needs some more input and may be found here. --AussieLegend () 13:50, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

  • Some more comments on this would really be appreciated. I know it's not as exciting as baiting greyhounds and getting infected with Hep A, but the discussion is going nowhere. --AussieLegend () 05:56, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Slow edit war at Chris Sarra[edit]

The article on Chris Sarra appears to be subject to a slow edit war with anons working against each other. Paul foord (talk) 08:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Chinese berry recalls / Hepatitis A outbreak[edit]

At the moment I can only find a single sentence, "In Australia in February 2015 a recall of frozen berries was issued after at least 12 people contracted the illness following their consumption of the product" in the Hepatitis A article. I would have thought it is significant enough to warrant further coverage - possibly it's own article? Struggling to think of a good name - Chinese frozen berry scandal/scare/incident? or Hepatitis A outbreak in Australia? Nothing about it in List of food contamination incidents or Food safety incidents in China. -- Chuq (talk) 00:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I added an item in 2015 in Australia a few hours ago. --Canley (talk) 00:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure we need an article for every food poisoning incident. Nobody died ... How about one for the the Mystery Poisoning Deaths of Jondaryan which I stumbled upon when I was doing edit training at Oakey [1] Kerry (talk) 07:50, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
The 1995 Garibaldi mettwurst contamination seems to have generated a lot of coverage over the years. Hack (talk) 08:39, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I wasn't sure if we needed an article for every incident either, but I thought I'd ask given we already have quite a few at Category:Food safety scandals! -- Chuq (talk) 09:36, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I think it's a bit early for an article on the frozen berries outbreak; it'd inevitably wind up getting at least AfD per WP:NOTNEWS and I'm not sure they'd be wrong. I think this could very much change, depending on both the spread of the outbreak and the possibility of significant legislative fallout (i.e. the country of origin labelling that's suddenly shot to the top of the political agenda); for now, I think mention in 2015 in Australia is sufficient. I do think the Garibaldi incident absolutely warrants an article - it's still referenced now; hell, I still distinctly remember it from the time and I was nine when it happened. The Jondaryan one sounds like a potentially interesting topic too. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
The Mettwurst thing definitely had more impact, there was at least one death and life-long health issues including organ transplants, and appears to still be in the news as recently as 2011, see [2] Kerry (talk) 21:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Just thinking aloud. While I am not sure individually things like these berries are article-worthy, nonetheless they are all part of the larger issue of food safety in Australia, which has a number of aspects such as natural toxin issues here in Australia, the increasing import of foods from countries that are not subject to our food standards, etc. I note that there is a Food safety in New Zealand article but not one for Australia. I note we have a trans-Tasman Food Standards Australia New Zealand for a common set of standards on food safety. I think if we had a Food safety in Australia article, we could add these frozen berries into it, as well as use it as a place to document the bigger issues that underly these individual incidents. Kerry (talk) 22:07, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Just created Food safety in Australia. Just a stub but ready to add your incidents.Kerry (talk) 22:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I note that the the website of Food Standards Australia New Zealand is CC-BY, so makes creating text a lot easier. Kerry (talk) 22:25, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Good call on creating that article. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Greyhound baiting[edit]

I have started Australian greyhound racing live baiting scandal if anyone is interested in expanding it. Regards, WWGB (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but crikey, that sort of cruelty is just too depressing to think about, much less edit about, isn't it? Lankiveil (speak to me) 08:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC).
+1 from me on that. But good on those of you who do contribute to it, as it is certainly not something to be swept under the carpet. Kerry (talk) 01:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

John Gillespie Fine Cotton[edit]

Is John Gillespie (Fine Cotton) still alive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Still alive as of 2010 and couldn't find anything since to suggest he's died.[3] Hack (talk) 01:13, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Sex, religion and John Howard: Wikipedia's most controversial pages[edit]

Sydney Morning Herald article WWGB (talk) 04:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I saw that, and automatically wondered "How much of this is actually back-and-forth 'controversial' revert warring like the SMH article implies, and how much of this is simple, good old-fashioned vandalstomping?" 'Most vandalised' would probably be a better heading for that article. -- saberwyn 11:38, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
It's good to see John Howard beat List of Barney & Friends episodes and videos, although it wasn't by much. --AussieLegend () 13:49, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Albert Langer/Victor Smorgon[edit]

Other eyes and opinions requested: an editor claiming to the daughter of political activist Albert Langer is repeatedly inserting an assertion that Langer is the brother of the late businessman and philanthropist Victor Smorgon. Aside from the fact that the claim appears to be unverifiable (the ABD reference does confirm that Victor Smorgon's father Norman married a Michelle Langer shortly before his death, but mentions no issue or children from Langer's previous marriage), the editor has inserted several negative statements concerning Langer in that article [4]. The claim is also given undue weight in the first sentence of both articles. --Canley (talk) 02:37, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Here's a source reporting the rumour (which attributes the claim to a book)
Thanks, I was trying to access that article on the Canberra Times and Factiva, but unsuccessfully. I will let the editor know. They would have been step-brothers at most. --Canley (talk) 03:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
This article also suggests a family link between the Smorgon family and Langer but doesn't give any detail. Hack (talk) 03:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Navy boss sunk by Wikipedia[edit]

Why don’t our top defence officials understand what submarines are on offer? WWGB (talk) 02:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


I'm not sure that Australian English phonology#AusTalk is the best location for this.

Should AusTalk get a mention under Variation in Australian English#Regional variation (see first [5])

Is it worth mentioning it under Australian English#Pronunciation?

Any ideas? Mitch Ames (talk) 04:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, if they were making the database available to the public, I'd say create its own article. But if that is not the case (and that's my reading of it), I am not sure it's any different to any other research data set out there in terms of being article-worthy. So I'd leave it where it is and just add a link from other articles to its section as desired. Aside, it would be nice to have a public database of pronunciation of Australian place names as I have seen a few articles arguing over pronunciation, most recently Cairns. It would be nice if we could offer an audio of Australians speaking those place names. 08:18, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
According to, "The AusTalk corpus ... will be made broadly available for research on Australian speech and language. Unfortunately we are still negotiating the terms ... with our legal advisors. ... As a consequence, we cannot yet make the data widely available." Mitch Ames (talk) 08:35, 1 March 2015 (UTC)