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New round of discussion for the MoS[edit]

I'm hoping to place an RFC for the proposed MoS soon; your input is appriciated at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles)/Draft#January 2010. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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GA Reassessment of Finland Plot[edit]

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Spelling of เกาะล้าน[edit]

There is an ongoing dispute on the spelling of the Ko Lan/Ko Larn article; please see Talk:Ko Lan (or Talk:Ko Larn, wherever the page is). --Paul_012 (talk) 18:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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Crossings on the Chao Phraya River[edit]

I have added a List of crossings of the Chao Phraya River several hours ago. A day earlier, I created an article for the Rama V Bridge using translated text from its corresponding article via the Google translator. The translations can become very poor so I may need help improving the article. Also, the list needs to be expanded to include any bridges that are located north of Rama V Bridge. And articles need to be created about those bridges also. Wikipedians working for WikiProject Thailand may be able to help by either getting more information on thosebridges and properly translating text from the bridges'corresponding articles in the Thai Wikipedia. Jim856796 (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Renaming of amphoe articles[edit]

I have started a discussion for moving Thai district articles from Amphoe <Name> to <Name> District at Talk:Amphoe Ban Fang#Requested move. I'm hoping consensus on the issue will serve as precedent for all district articles. Your input is appreciated. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:20, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

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AfD of Christian Foundation for the Blind in Thailand[edit]

Christian Foundation for the Blind in Thailand has been listed for an AfD. As per User:Ans-mo's observation, I feel that this foundation has probably not received WP:RS because of its foreign location. --Morenooso (talk) 01:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Help on HTMS Chakri Naruebet[edit]

I've recently been working on the article for the aircraft carrier HTMS Chakri Naruebet, and need some help from someone who can read Thai. This webpage was provided to support information about the carrier's work during the December 2004 tsunamis. I've tried to use the page (and a second page on the same site) to include information from the page to expand on the carrier's acquisition and other disaster relief operations, but because I cannot read Thai and had to work of a machine translation, some of the content may be wrong. Would somebody be able to doublecheck the article and the webpages to make sure I have not made any errors? Thanks in advance -- saberwyn 07:53, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

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Naming of tambon articles[edit]

I've noticed that many tambon (subdistrict) articles have recently been created. Currently most of them are titled after their bare names. I would like to propose that, for consistency and clarity, we follow a regular naming scheme for such articles, similarly to that used for amphoe (districts), which has recently been discussed at Talk:Ban Fang District#Requested move. If the same scheme as with provinces and districts is used, articles should be titled [[Placename Subdistrict]]. This will avoid ambiguity as many subdistricts share their names with other things. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Though I am really not happy with all those new articles - they contain almost no information beyond the one already given in the Amphoe article, and only add to the thousands of abandoned Wikipedia articles where vandalism will accumulate and which nobody ever reads - adding the subdistrict to each name is definitely necessary. We not only have subdistricts (of which many have no unique name), then there's for almost every Tambon the TAO, a legally different entity only in most cases covering the same area, and in some cases even an additional municipality. And not too rarely a Tambon is named after a geographic object, like a river, lake, forest, so these would then also add to the disambiguation. andy (talk) 13:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

6 October 1976 massacre has been rewritten[edit]

Discussion moved to Talk:6 October 1976 Massacre

Wikipedia:Featured article review/Bhumibol Adulyadej/archive1[edit]

I have nominated Bhumibol Adulyadej for a featured article review. Savidan 21:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Request for Comment: List of cities proper by population.[edit]

There is a new RFC at Talk:List of cities proper by population#Guiding principles for List of cities proper by population that asks which definition of city proper to use consistently for the purpose of List of cities proper by population. The outcome of this RFC can significantly influence the representation of Thai cities on this list. One option on the RFC could result in the removal of all Thai cities from the list -- BsBsBs (talk) 05:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmong Wikipedia proposal[edit]

I'm trying to see if a Hmong Wikipedia could be started. Many Hmong ended up settling in Thailand as refugees.

The proposal is at:

WhisperToMe (talk) 07:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hmong Daw Wikipedia ready to accept contributions[edit]

The Hmong Daw Wikipedia is ready to accept contributions, as per meta:Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Hmong_Daw WhisperToMe (talk) 21:44, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing[edit]

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Can you help with Thai footballer BLPs?[edit]

There's a list of stubs on Thai footballers which have all been tagged as unrefernced BLPs since October 2008 (which is the current focus month for the UBLP Rescue Project. We're really struggling a) to establish whether these bios meet the WP:ATH or WP:GNG notability guidelines and b) if they do, finding reliable sources for them. This is an area which could really do with some attention from editors with the right language skills and an enthusiasm or interest in Thai football. I'm posting here in the hope of finding someone who might be kind enough to swing by and lend a hand. Some help finding RS generally would be a help as we find several of this type of BLP in every focus month. Without sourcing many of these stubs will probably end up in one or other of the deletion processs.--Plad2 (talk) 09:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Most of those articles do meet the literal implications of WP:NFOOTY, but I doubt there is enough interest in these articles to sustain them, nor do their existence significantly contribute to the value of Wikipedia as a whole. Most of these articles were created by a handful of editors, at least one of whom tags new articles as UBLPs rather than providing references, and I doubt others would share their interest. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami[edit]

2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami has been requested to be renamed, see Talk:2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami . (talk) 03:26, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of election poster image[edit]

I wish to inform you that this image has been nominated for deletion. There are potentially others as well. SilverserenC 20:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

{{Thailand topics}}[edit]

Can someone from here please create the template

. See example in Women in Vietnam. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Tada! Check out the new topic template. I need someone else to expand the history section though, since I'm not familiar with what would qualify as important. Nightw 09:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Diplomatic missions of the United States[edit]

List of diplomatic missions of the United States lists neither United States Embassy, Bangkok nor U.S. Consulate General, Chiang Mai. No United States Embassy, Vientiane, either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pawyilee (talkcontribs) 11:16, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly what the concern is here. Why should a separate article from Thailand – United States relations be required, and why should it be listed on that page? --Paul_012 (talk) 17:45, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
The role of the Laos Embassy in the Vietnam War is adequately covered in the article on the US Ambassador at the time, but not that of the one in Bangkok, or of the consulate in Chiang Mai. The relations article also has little to say, and misleadingly says the US has a "small" U.S. military advisory group that's still quite a large fortified compound on Sathon Tai. The Embassy on Wireless Road is both fortified and huge. I just linked the advisory group to Military Assistance Advisory Group, but it doesn't list JUSMAG-THAI. During the Vietnam dustup, it , or some other related US activity, leased two hotels in Bangkok that doubled as Officers and NCO Clubs, also a compound in Klong Toey for a post exchange, commissary and US Army medical facility open to US military dependents in-country. They also had a tiny post exchange in Pattaya, and behind it was group of bungalows for Officers families. That and the R&R camp at the north end of the beach arguably started started the boom down there, but all its History section says is, But a change occurred on April 26, 1961, when the first group of about 100 American servicemen who were fighting in the Vietnam War arrived in Pattaya for relaxation. While I'm on the subject of diplomatic missions, there is next-to-nothing on Thailand – United Kingdom relations beyond the Burney Treaty and Treaty of Amity and Commerce (Siam–UK) (1826.) --Pawyilee (talk) 09:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Only recently found out there was as US consulate in Udon Thani closed in about 1995, and that there is still a VOA transmission site nearby. --Pawyilee (talk) 15:31, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Potent source for Thai history articles[edit]

I just found this today, which I've already used as a source for the "unofficial motto" at Flag of Thailand. I'd like some help on filling out the cite web template. This is my second try, using the site's bottom line as the quote. [1]

  1. ^ "Thailand: A Country Study". from the Library of Congress Country Studies Program, formerly the Army Area Handbook Program. Retrieved 23 July 2011. "This text comes from the Country Studies Program, formerly the Army Area Handbook Program. The Country Studies Series presents a description and analysis of the historical setting and the social, economic, political, and national security systems and institutions of countries throughout the world. From The Library of Congress TRY USING CTRL-F on your keyboard to find the appropriate section of text" 

--Pawyilee (talk) 04:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


Can someone please give me the English Transliteration of อหลยา and confirm that she is same as the Hindu Ahalya? An anon added อหลยา in the article. --Redtigerxyz Talk 06:04, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

อหลยา is a direct transliteration of Ahalyā into Thai script. I'm not sure how it would normally be pronounced, since this varies among Pali/Sanskrit loanwords and terms. A brief Google search tells that they are indeed the same subject. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
She has a section at Thai Wiki พระอินทร์. I found the links to both with the search service at English Thai Dictionary. --Pawyilee (talk) 11:09, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. --Redtigerxyz Talk 16:45, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


I am not sure if it is notable or not, and certainly needs at least two sources that establish notability, even if in thai. could someone please take a look, thanks! --Cerejota (talk) 23:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


I would like to write an article about Omnoi stadium and Omnoi in SamutSakhon.

Does anyone have any links in English?

Should Omnoi be a seperate article, or part of another article.--Ranti2 (talk) 08:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Om Noi as a city clearly deserves an article on its own, there's only the question whether the city and the Tambon should be in the same article. The cover the same area, but are different administrative units, so to be exact they should be separate articles, but for simplicity I think can put them into one, same as it was done for several other Tambon and corresponding TAO. I have no English links, but many Thai sources and references, so maybe I can start with an article on the city, and you fill in the details I omitted. andy (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Zaza Sor Aree[edit]

Does anyone know good online reliable sources where I could find information about the Muay Thai idol Zaza Sor Aree? I recently created her article, but I'm missing much relevant information about her. I know that she is an idol in Thailand, but I can't reference much because I don't speak Thai. I would appreciate if anyone could check the Thai article and tell me what I could add to the English version. Also, I'm looking for more complete references about her kickboxing career, her musical career and her acting career, as well as her background. Jfgslo (talk) 03:20, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Free Thai Movement[edit]

Help is badly needed at the Free Thai Movement to document involvement of the OSS in Japanese-occupied Thailand; US bombing of civilian targets;an OSS agent losing his mind over it; and the UK's desire to annex Thailand at the end of WWII. Additional info on the accidental bombing of Japanese high-value sites in a B-29 raid that was only a practice-run for bombing Japan that missed all of its intended civilian targets is at Allies attack Thailand, 1942-1945. Text from The Library of Congress Country Studies Program, formerly the Army Area Handbook Program, yields this tidbit: "...As a result of the contributions made to the Allied war efforts by the Free Thai Movement, the United States, which unlike the other Allies had never officially been at war with Thailand, refrained from dealing with Thailand as an enemy country in postwar peace negotiations. Before signing a peace treaty, however, Britain demanded war reparations in the form of rice for shipment to Malaya, and France refused to permit admission of Thailand to the United Nations (UN) until Indochinese territories annexed during the war were returned. The Soviet Union insisted on the repeal of anticommunist legislation." Mongabay reference Thailand An earlier version of the WP article was preserved for students and teachers at " eNotes. I can't help due to serious NNPOV. --Pawyilee (talk) 17:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Than Yutthachaibodin AfD[edit]

Anyone with any skill in Thai whatsoever could probably lend a hand at this AfD. Thanks in advance. --joe deckertalk to me 06:08, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Need help[edit]

Hello. I'm looking for help regarding Category:House of Sundarakul na Jolburi. I've just categorized it in Category:Thai monarchy but I'm not 100% sure that this makes sense. The problem is that the explanation on the category page as well as the main article (House of Sundarakul na Jolburi) look like a really bad case of machine translation and are basically unreadable. Maybe th:สุนทรกุล_ณ_ชลบุรี can shed some light on all this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. A related issue is whether this topic deserves its own category. Best, Pichpich (talk) 22:28, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Rewrote a bit. Should be in Category:Thai families, I think. As for the subcategory, if no other eligible member articles arise then it could probably be deleted. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:08, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Great! Thanks a lot. Pichpich (talk) 12:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

19th-century image files[edit]

Southeast Asia Visions. "Browse the Southeast Asia Visions Collection". Cornell University Library. Retrieved October 2, 2011. "Browse by image date"  --Pawyilee (talk) 10:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month[edit]

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Thailand will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Thailand's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:37, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Question regarding the bypass canal of Ko Kret[edit]

Please take a look at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Date of this 17th century map of Siam?. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:45, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Naming of tambon articles.[edit]

Petebutt has started a requested move for Mae Suai Subdistrict. Since the naming of tambon articles has never been discussed in detail, could interested editors help weigh in on the issue? Thank you. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Muay Thai and boxing professionals: How to name future articles about the various individuals[edit]

Would it be unthinkable for an article to be named/renamed

(I have no problem with the articles mentioning their various fight names.)

If the following names (from this link, are not the legal names ( name on governmental I.D. cards), then we might need to rethink how to name articles in the future. (It seems that fighters on Thai teams, have fight names that include the name of their teams (the gyms where they are employed/bound by contract):

Buakaw Por. Pramuk

Naruepol Fairtex

Yodsanklai Fairtex

Kaokor Galaxy

Zaza Sor Aree

Sudsakorn Sor Klinmee --Computadorcorriente (talk) 00:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Using their (legal) personal names would mostly go against WP:COMMONNAME, I think. In Thailand at least the fight names you mention are indeed their most recognisable names. I understand that these may change as one switches gyms, which may cause problems in some cases, but mostly they should be okay, if they are commonly known as such in English. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I am not of your opinion. "Samson Dutch Boy Gym" is an article title that is problematic in more ways than one. One solution might be "Samson Phantasi" (his nickname and his last name). This will differentiate him from other "Samson"s (which I believe might include a world champion female boxer). In this way we avoid having to deal with the numerous changes of employment during his career.
By your reasoning then perhaps the article about Siriporn Thaweesuk should be renamed or redirected to Samson Sor Siriporn? (And to make things a little bit more complicated, I seem to remember that the "Sor Siriporn" name is not a result of her own first name, but rather the name of the prison officer who was responsible for the training of Samson.)
  • And how are we to defaultsort names such as Buakaw Fairtex? By the nickname, or by the name of the employer (Fairtex)? --Computadorcorriente (talk) 11:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
"Samson Sor Siriporn" actually appears to be the title of the corresponding article at the Thai Wikipedia. I do understand that such names don't work well in an English-language context, but that is not ours to judge. WP:STAGENAME says, "The name used most often to refer to a person in reliable sources is generally the one that should be used as the article title, even if it is not their 'real' name." I think it applies directly to these cases. If Samson Dutch Boy Gym is known that way to most people, we should follow the usage. I don't think it's any worse than 50 Cent anyway. If we were to use persons' real names for article titles, we would have to rename a lot of articles about celebrities such as Lady Gaga. As for category sorting, such stage names should be simply sorted as they appear. (Lady Gaga isn't sorted as "Gaga, Lady".) --Paul_012 (talk) 14:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
This is Wikipedia in English. "Sor" and "por" might give meaning to Thai people. Please entertain the idea of these hypothetical titles
In the case of "Buakaw" ex-trainee of Pramuk, i think that an adequate article title (maybe the best) would be Buakaw (ex-trainee of Pramuk). The future name of that article on Thai wikipedia, will possibly not be renamed, I dare to speculate. Note: Buakaw has vowed never to fight for Pramuk Gym again, and he has stated the name of his current trainer (not Pramuk). Please explain if you think that the "Por Pramuk" is part of Buakaw's current stage name.
We now have a precedent for using nickname plus family name (of the fighter). (The article about Buakaw was renamed yesterday: Buakaw Banchamek.)
Please do not change the name of Samson Dutch Boy Gym, until we have rectified the "Fairtex"es and "Galaxy"s, because "Dutch Boy Gym" might be the best example of how unencyclopedic these names can get, when practices are not questioned. --Computadorcorriente (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC) (Note: Fixed typo. --Paul_012 (talk))
Well, Buakaw Benchamek does appear to be what he's going by now; it seems to have become mainstream enough, so no problems with that. Each article should be named on a case-by-case basis, though. There may not be a one-size-fits-all solution that works for every Muay Thai practitioner. Nickname + surname should not be used arbitrarily if it has not been used elsewhere. ("Samson Phantasi" turns up zero Google hits.) I'm not sure what exactly are the aspects you find problematic, but, to use Khaosai Galaxy as an example, I don't think there is a more appropriate article title, since this is how he is known worldwide. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
PS Some sources appear to substitute Por. and Sor. with P. and S., etc. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
So how do you want to defaultsort? "Galaxy" is not his last name/family name!
You said "Each article should be named on a case-by-case basis, though." I am not sure what you mean by that. Wikipedia is governed by guidelines. If we don't have one in place, then maybe one can be created.
If the names you are proposing are so fine and dandy, then why aren't the "Sor" and "Por" names used in the olympics, in regard to the boxers from Thailand? Maybe because it is an oddity that functions adequately on posters in Thailand, as well as in other forums in Thailand.
Does anyone know if the printed version of encyclopedia Britannica has an article about Por Pramuk, Buakaw.
Should the defaultsort of Samson Dutch Boy Gym prioritize the 2nd or the 3rd or the 4th name?
Wouldn't it be correct to say that "Samson" is his stage name, while "Dutch Boy Gym" is not his name, but rather an attached name to show affiliation? -- (talk) 19:09, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

In light of the recent blocking of the original poster as a sock puppet, it has become apparent that this discussion is serving only to waste other editors' time. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:06, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually there are some problems with the way we are naming articles about boxers and muay thai practitioners from Thailand. Now we have an article about a muay thai practitioner, where the title of the article is a name that he never has used in a fight (and which also is not his real name)—a name which he will not use for his next fight, acording to the article "Buakaw confirms Thai Fight participation" (in yesterday's Bangkok Post):
"Muay Thai superstar Sombat Banchamek—better known as Buakaw Por Pramuk ..."
"The boxer said at a press conference that he would stick with the name Buakaw for the Thai Fight but may not use the name of the boxing camp Por Pramuk."
How can we deal with all of this? For one we can recognize that there are not too many people participating in this discussion. So if one administrator makes up his/her mind about how things should be done on this subject, then we will be stuck with this persons ideas for a months or years. (And when people have strong opinions, it might also be interesting to see who is/has been bringing new references to this discussion.)
  • Now the fighter is scheduled to fight with the fight name "Buakaw" (for his fight in April), "but may not use the name ... Por Pramuk". Comment: The original post seemed to be about how to name these articles in an encyclopedic manner, without having to change the title of any single article, again and again and again. Maybe disambiguation pages for Buakaw, and [[Somchai] and Somsak and Fairtex could alleviate some of the challenges. And then when the fighter has a new fight name, then we just add the fight name to the disambigution page for the common denominator fight name, such as "Samson" or Buakaw (Buakaw Banchamek/ Buakaw Por Pramuk/Buakaw)
If anyone has any better references, then please bring'em on. -- (talk) 19:25, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Maybe this format can work for these types of articles, when the fight name (without "Por Pramuk" etc.) is more famous than the real name:
Sombat Banchamek (Fight name Buakaw). Or Buakaw (Sombat Banchamek).
Possibly we could defaultsort these by the "common denominator fight names", such as "Buakaw". -- (talk) 19:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


The talk page for Buakaw Por Pramuk has since year 2007, asked the question of the meaning of "Por". Can someone give an answer here (or there)? -- (talk) 18:52, 1 April 2012 (UTC) In most cases, it spells "P." in either English or Thai abbreviations, and is pronounced with a "Harvard R." --Pawyilee (talk) 16:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

English in Thailand[edit]

Hi. I've started a discussion at Talk:Hua Hin District#English used in Thailand? regarding the variety of English used in Thailand. It is specifically regarding some changes to that article, but it would be good to get a general consensus, as I have seen changes made both ways in various articles related to Thailand. This may well be a better place for it. So, how should we interpret WP:ENGVAR in relation to the English used in Thai-related articles? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:15, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

And specifically, does anyone have any good sources for the appropriate Thai English spelling of "kilometer"/"kilometre"? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:29, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
It should be "kilometre", for example as has been noted on the Hua Hin page re. today's Bangkok Post [1] GeoffreySuchart (talk) 14:55, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Interesting, thanks, but The Bangkok Post is inconsistent - eg this article uses "kilometer". Maybe we need a Google fight - give me a few minutes. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Google fight results...
  • Bangkok Post, "kilometer" = 3,400 results, "kilometre" = 63,800 results
  • The Nation, "kilometer" = 579 results, "kilometre" = 9,070 results
That sounds good enough to me - "kilometre" it is. (Thinking about it more, I wonder if the "kilometre" spelling comes from French, and neither British nor American English - France has has diplomatic contact with Thailand for a very long time). -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
It's in Canadian English, not sure about Australian or NZ or South African....and also "centre" instead of "center". There is somewhere an an "official Thai English" manual/styleguide for use in international trade and diplomacy; I had a copy as supervisor of a world bank conference's wordprocessing pool....subtle differences exist in official spellings used by governments whether the national language is English or not; Philippines and Taiwanese English is subtly different from US English and Malaysian English even differs from Singaporean on a few points....where to find such an official style guide I know, maybe the Ministry of International Trade, whatever it's actually called.Skookum1 (talk) 04:17, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Message: "I hate you"[edit]

On my talk page: Message: Hi. I'm Thai, and I hate you. I think you know why. :) -- (talk) 14:32, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Not really, but suspect it may relate to British-born Abhisit's Palace name & its ancestral meaning of "Medical Professional"; & to His Britannic-Majesty-Rama VI's acts to make Siamese Reigns, Houses, Surnames & Civil-service ranks toe a European line – seemingly with advice on Indic roots & orthography from HM's Royal Council of Pandits, predecessor to RIT and its RTGS. The dispute first irrupted at Abhist_Talk with User:Sodacan's objecting to tying "Abhist" to 19th-centry "Privilege" (to exercise a Royally-granted monopoly of designated commodities -- such as deer-hides, a practice going back to time immemorial, seeminly reincarnated in the likes of CP Group.) He also objected to linking the first Palace-named Vejjajiva's (obsolete) civil-service nomenclature to Thai for "courtier," which at the time was being used by the better-educated Red Shirts as a synonym for "invisible hand." (Modern civil-service nomenclature relates to Thai for Servant/Service.) Some invisible hand has since had all references to Palace and House Names removed from the Web, and blocked from WebCite®. Not being Thai, I don't know why this must remain invisible. --Pawyilee (talk) 03:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Naming of tambon articles (2)[edit]

Please see Talk:Ban Pong, Wiang Pa Pao#Requested move. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:59, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

So we now have Mae Suai Subdistrict and Ban Pong, Chiang Rai as the result of two discussions. Not really consistent, but the discussions barely saw input anyway. I'm now reluctant as to whether we these can be regarded as setting precedent. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Project tagger run[edit]

A heads-up that I'm going to request a WikiProject tagger run for articles in the categories listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand/List of categories. I've gone through the list but if anyone spots mistakes or has objections please do raise them. Note that I've left off some subcategories which I think are unlikely to be in the project's interest (mostly relating to specific sporting events or people who were only marginally related, e.g. died in Thailand). --Paul_012 (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Ampon Tangnoppakul[edit]

I've just started an article on Ampon Tangnoppakul, a lese-majeste convict who died on 8 May in prison, causing some controversy. I've updated the article from a number of English-language sources, but Thai sources would be useful too if anyone has the language-savvy to help. Cheers, Khazar2 (talk) 18:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Questioning of neutrality in some articles related to Thailand[edit]

I believe that some of the articles here should be written with some more viewpoints - especially more from how thai people see something. I think that the articles related to thailand should include more viewpoints from more people. For example: the wikipedia article on Bangkok lists the names of major INTERNATIONAL hospitals such as Bumrungrad international hospital, but does not mention awesome government hospitals such as Siriraj Hospital and King Chulalongkorn Memorial hospital. Also, for many articles, wikipedia does not appear to trust the thai government - (for example: "The thai government claims blah blah blah..."). Yet, wikipedia appears to trust western sources (such as the media) as if every statement by a western source is true and unbiased. I understand that wikipedia wants neutral articles, but some western media articles are biased themselves. I apologize if I had offended anyone here for my confusing writing, but this is my first (ever) comment to wikipedia and I am still quite inexperienced (and confused) about the right writing style to use here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximillian12493 (talkcontribs) 12:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome! Thanks for raising these concerns. In the case of the hospitals, this may be a result of following the lists our reliable sources feature most prominently, or it may simply be an oversight. I'd suggest asking specifically about this at Talk:Bangkok; give it a week, and if no one responds, feel free to add the other hospitals yourself while citing a reliable source. Or just be bold and go ahead and them, and then leave a note on the talk page explaining your reasoning.
As for your other example, it's hard to get into detail without seeing a specific article, but you're right that generally Wikipedia trusts secondary sources with known editorial oversight over direct statements from governments. You can learn more at our policy pages on reliable sources and primary sources. One point where I definitely agree with you, however, is that articles shouldn't be using "claim" to cast doubt on the Thai govt. statements except in extreme cases per our manual of style--there's actually a subsection on this at WP:CLAIM, though of course nobody (including me!) really can memorize the whole manual. Hope this helps! Feel free to contact me through my user talk page if you have any more questions. Khazar2 (talk) 12:40, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Requested move: Nichkhun Horvejkul[edit]

Hello WP Thailand. A move was proposed for Nichkhun Horvejkul by User:CaseyPenk. Please find the discussion at Talk:Nichkhun Horvejkul, and let us know if you support/oppose to dropping Nichkhun's last name from the article's title. Per WP:STAGENAME, Nichkhun seems to be better than Nichkhun Horvejkul. Many thanks! --PBJT (talk) 18:18, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Place name consistency[edit]

Probably flogging a dead horse here, since no one seems to care, but as the status quo for town and city names has been to have the town or city article at the plain title, with disambiguating links to provinces and districts sharing the name, for the sake of consistency I'll be renaming articles I come across to follow the scheme (until consensus is established otherwise). In cases where disambiguation by geographical location is necessary, I'll stick with the largest geographic entity within which the name is unique (i.e. Nan, Thailand). --Paul_012 (talk) 13:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Department of Special Investigation[edit]

In which article can I mention who is the chief of Department of Special Investigation? Tarit Pengdith [2] --Plumbet (talk) 10:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

It'd be best to create the article. -- (talk) 17:39, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

animal rights[edit]

Nominated 29 July 2012

I am wondering if someone here would be interested in adding Thailand perspectives into the article of animal rights. I think current under representation of Thailand perspective in the article is unacceptable because vegetarianism, Buddhism had long history in Thailand. SSZvH7N5n8 (talk) 09:01, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Symbols of Thailand[edit]

{{Symbols of Thailand}} has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 03:36, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:PhasaThai[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:PhasaThai has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 06:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Burma → Myanmar requested-move notification[edit]

A requested move survey has been started (by Marcus Qwertyus (talk)) at Talk:Burma, which proposes to move:

Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 22:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Night in paintings (Eastern art)[edit]

Please visit this page and add to the article knowledge about night art in your country, much appreciated: Night_in_paintings_(Eastern_art) -- RexRowan  Talk  14:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

A movie star or films in which she starred[edit]

I would like to help out on the subject of Pawana Chanachit or any of the films she starred in. Can someone create a stub? "A former movie star known as “the Pearl of Asia”, Pawana Chanachit, ...", [3]. -- (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Revisions and New Entry: Gender Inequality in Thailand[edit]

Hello everyone,

I am currently working on a term paper for my Gender Economics class. My topic is about Gender Inequality in Thailand which will mainly focus on the context of gender division of labor in labor market. I am planning on starting my article by pointing out the problem of gender inequality from various perspective based on the gender inequality indicators in order to build up the understanding of the situation in Thailand. I will then present, in detail, the gender in equality in labor market in several aspects such as gender wage gap, employment rate, etc. I would be appreciate if you guys can help me with the sources of data of further idea of what else should be included, or not included, in the article or what other indicator(s) I shall present in my article.

So far I have gathered some information from world bank website. Some of my literatures include:

Kampon Adireksombat, Fang Zheng, and Chir Sakellariou. The evolution of gender wage differentials and discriminations in thailand: 1991-2007. In Economic Growth Centre Working Paper Series, number 2010/05. Economic Growth Centre, 2010.

George Gray Molina and Mark Purser. Human development trends since 1970: A social convergence story, 2010.

Social Institutions & Gender Index. Gender equality in thailand. http: //, 2012. [Online; accessed 28- September-2012].

I am sure I need a lot more citations to make a good article and I would be appreciate if any of you could provide me some suggestion(s). Thank you very much. Econkc (talk) 02:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


I wanted to bring to the attention of this WikiProject that the article Automotive industry in Thailand was created today via WP:AfC. The article is in excellent shape and nominated for a DYK. If anyone is interested in improving the article it could be within reach of GA if the prose, neutrality, and references can be touched up. Just thought you may be interested as the reviewer. Mkdwtalk 08:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Concerns about existence of temple[edit]

Hello, I'd appreciate it if anybody could help me wih my query about the existence of a temple added by an unregistered user to the Chiang Mai page. Graham87 06:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Picture requests?[edit]

Hi folks. I'm currently in ko Pha Ngan, will soon be in Ko Tao, and will spend a little more time in Bangkok. All I currently have for a camera is an iPad, but I suppose it's better than nothing. If you have any requests for pictures, let me know, I'll take some, to the best of my and my cameras abilities. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 09:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer! You can take a look at Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Thailand for a start, (though the category is somewhat under-utilised). --Paul_012 (talk) 19:16, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

AfD th:รายชื่อจังหวัดในประเทศไทยเรียงตามดัชนีพัฒนามุนษย์[edit]

Hi. Can anyone search and confirm this 2007 HDI comparison really was published (in Thai?) in 2009. Otherwise the English article faces deletion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Thailand provinces by Human Development Index. Thanks In ictu oculi (talk) 11:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Featured article candidate[edit]

The article about She Has a Name, a play based in Thailand, is a current featured article candidate. If you would be willing to review the article, your comments at the discussion would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 12:47, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Serious updating of political articles needed[edit]

I'm trying to learn a bit about Thailand's politics for the first time. The articles on politicians connected with the 2006 coup, the prime minister who was overthrown and subsequent primes ministers need serious updating. Reading them is like reading a thriller and not knowing the ending. What happened Sonthi Boonyaratglin, for example? Was he punished at all for overthrowing the elected government? And why did he have to resign from the army on his retirement age when he had just overthrown the democratically elected government? What's he doing in 2013? Likewise, what is the current status of Thaksin Shinawatra in 2013? The tense used in most of these articles is also the present tense when they should be past tense now. (talk) 02:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Muay Thai article attacks[edit]

The Muay Thai article is experiencing multiple attacks, some in the form of section blanking, some in the form of self promotion. I'd like to propose that someone with rollback User rights revert the article to a stable previous version and Semi-protect the article to deflect future vandalism. Thanks! — Jdcollins13 (talk) 16:42, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted the article to what appears to me to be the last good version. Semi-protection is unlikely to be granted if requested at WP:RPP since there isn't frequent enough vandalism, at least I don't see it. I'll also note that nearly the entire article lacks references. The only citations are in the lead, which usually shouldn't contain references since it should be a rehash of referenced material in the body of the article. Someone who is familiar with the topic area and where sources can be found may want to give some attention to the article. --TreyGeek (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


Could someone have a look at this submission and verify it's source? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:46, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

The single reference is a 1941 law adjusting the boundaries of the province. It doesn't directly support all of the article content about the gaining and loss of the territory. A better reference can be found in Wyatt, David K. (2003). Thailand : A Short History (2nd ed. ed.). Chiang Mai: Silkworm Books. pp. 245, 251–252. ISBN 9789749575444. . I'm not familiar with AfC process (the page header still lists it as not awaiting review), but with an addition of this reference it could be accepted right away. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
A better direct source for the annexation is the French-Thai friendship treaty of 1941, especially [4], or, as a indirect reference, the autobiography of Direk (Chaiyanām, Dirēk (2008). Thailand and World War II. Chiang Mai, Thailand: Silkworm Books. ISBN 9749511336. . It seems there is no Royal Gazette announcement on the creation of these provinces, only the establishing of the provincial courts was announced [5] and the subdivision of these provinces into Amphoe [6]. andy (talk) 11:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Map of Isan provinces - update needed[edit]

Could someone with a bit of graphic skill please update the File:Isan provinces.png to include the new province of Bueng Kan. The original uploader is no longer active. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I have edited the map, but there seems to be some time delay in it appearing. After first upload it looked unmodified, but after I uploaded again, the first was ok, the second unmodified. When editing the description it looked good however. −Woodstone (talk) 04:27, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Doesn't seem to have worked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Must be a caching problem somewhere. Can you look at the file history. Doe you see the correct one? To me the last version looks wrong, but the pop-up when I hover over the "file" link up here, is correct. −Woodstone (talk) 09:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that User:McDogm/76 has a link to the file. There it appears modified to me. −Woodstone (talk) 16:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Manus Jamveha.jpg[edit]

image:Manus Jamveha.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 03:36, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

notability notice on new article, I'm new here[edit]

I just created a Tourism Association of Koh Samui article and thought I'd done it right, but it has a notability tag on it already, even though I had lots of citations which I thought were appropriate. Wouldn't such a major resort area's organisation be noteworthy enough for an article? Any tips on what I could do to fix things or find maybe Thai-language citations that could support it? Advice please. I plan on writing an article on the oil drilling controversy in the Gulf and on major tourism items here like the Big Buddha. I want to get things right, advice and help please.AlfredShonfeld (talk) 13:09, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Japanese occupation of Thailand or not?[edit]

A debate has arisen about the naming of the page about Thailand during World War 2. There are apparently two views, one which I tend to subscribe to is that the Japanese did not occupy Thailand, and the other that they did. This has led to the question about the articles name.

My reasoning is that, from historic sources, the Thai government of the time initially informally agreed to the Japanese armies transiting through Thailand for their invasions of both Burma and Malaya. When the Japanese requested (to all intents and purposes in the form of an ultimatum) consent the government delayed responding and the Japanese entered Thailand anyway. By midday of that same day the Thai government consented to the Japanese passage and allied themselves with the Japanese.

From my reading it appears that the Thai government was left to govern the country and rewarded (if that is an appropriate term) for their co-operation with the northern Malay states and some Burmese territory. I am interested to know what project members think, whether this is a controversial matter, and what title is appropriate for the article. NealeFamily (talk) 22:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Can't comment on the rest, but so far as I know Britain had already surrendered control of the northern Malay states long before WWII.....remember reading about that, I th ink during some readings on Mongkut here in Wikipedia.....and why any land deal the Japanese made would have been honoured by the Allies after the war I just can't see. Britain and Thailand had already come to terms about that, as I recall in relation to a territory swap elsewhere; I'll see if I can find that again.....and yeah no doubt this is a touchy issue overall. Ally or occupied or "?" what exactly....language is political, and so are titles.....Skookum1 (talk) 04:22, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Skookum1 - the more I have read the more I felt that there could be differing views. Hopefully contributors can cite reliable sources to support the for and against. The article may need to reflect both versions. NealeFamily (talk) 04:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I understand that may be keen to revert the move, since indef-blocked user Pelaisse was previously engaged in POV-pushing on the topic. However, my reasoning (as given on the article talk page) still stands. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
PS Filing a formal RM on the talk page would probably be the best venue for such discussion. Can't say I'm interested in participating though. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I've filed an RM. Please continue discussion at Talk:Japanese occupation of Thailand#Requested move. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:25, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Rayong oil spill article created[edit]

I just created this, after adding it to List of oil spills. I don't know enough about what kinds of detail and content are expected but gave a rough start to it. Lots more is needed, I'm a bit overwhelmed by the amount of coverage so hope for other WP:THAILAND editors to work on it. I just don't know where to start, or how to organize all the information is out there. It's an ongoing news event, I know there's a template for that but don't know what it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfredShonfeld (talkcontribs) 12:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

In that article I made a redlink to PTT Global Chemical Plc as I'm not certain that that's the same as PTT Plc, or a particular subsidiary of it. Additions to the Rayong and Ko Samet and other articles in the area seem to be needed, also, not sure about on PTT Plc if it's not the same company. Or should PTT Global Chemical Plc just redirect to the PTT article. - User:AlfredShonfeld —Preceding undated comment added 13:14, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
It's a subsidiary for which we don't yet have an article. A redirect would be appropriate, but it should probably be at PTT Global Chemical, per WP:NCCORP. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Where should Siam redirect?[edit]

Where should the Siam page redirect? Please discuss at Talk:Siam. —  AjaxSmack  03:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Fah Jarod Sai[edit]

Why should we have an article about this [7] Fah Jarod Sai? Is there one on wikipedia in thai language? --As i kiss the sky (talk) 11:51, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

{{Countries and territories of Southeast Asia}}[edit]

Template:Countries and territories of Southeast Asia (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 10:28, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Active members in Thailand[edit]

How many of the active mambers of this project are currently living in Thailand are aware that I have been trying to get a user group together here?and? If there are enough, perhaps it's time to try and organise another meet up; Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

{{Countries and territories bordering the Indian Ocean}}[edit]

Template:Countries and territories bordering the Indian Ocean (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 11:24, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


image:ThailandVolleyballlogo.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 07:23, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Post-Thaksin politics articles[edit]

The various post-Thaksin political crises articles need to be reorganised. There should be an overview article summarising the events, and the articles should be renamed for consistency.

I suggest that we have an article covering the History of Thailand since 2001 (taking off from History of Thailand since 1973, which should probably be renamed History of Thailand (1973–2001)). This would be the period since Thaksin first came to power. This is a rough timeline of the events for which we have or should have individual articles:

Obviously, this is a rather huge (and complicated) task—one I'm not going to attempt at the moment. I'm putting up this structural draft in case anyone wishes to try his/her hand at it. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:51, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

The proposed amnesty bill and the popular outcry and opposition it has created probably deserves its own article.--Paul_012 (talk) 11:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree, without an overview article it's all very confusing, there should be one, and also a category page (I could probably be of help for the latter). Charles Essie (talk) 17:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Doembang Nangbuat District[edit]

Is there an article about Doembang Nangbuat District under another name? Allgatorskinz (talk) 11:10, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes. It's at Doem Bang Nang Buat District. I've created a redirect. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:02, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


Hello, Could anyone look to see if reliable sources for Suphot Dhirakaosal could be found? I'm not finding a whole lot in English, but I'm guessing there might be Thai sources. He's being discussed at [8]. Thanks, Hobit (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Help with an article?[edit]

Hi! I've got a big favor to ask. I came across the page for the Thailand Convention and Exhibition Bureau. It was up for speedy as a promotional article, as it was pretty blatant. There was also a conflict of interest, as the person who created it is an employee for TCEB. Now the thing is that I don't think that this was done purely out of promotional intent and I do think that there was good will there, which is why I removed all of the content and reduced it to a stub. In any case, would any of you be willing to work on this? I can't guarantee that it'll be safe from deletion, but I think it deserves more than a quick delete as a speedy. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:49, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Looking on WikiProject Thailand for any Lao speakers wanting to write article on Lao Airlines Flight 301[edit]

I understand Thailand has some Lao speakers. If any Lao speakers are on here, is anyone interested in starting a Lao article on en:Lao Airlines Flight 301?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 07:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

New article: Thai addressing system[edit]

So I wrote up a first draft of Thai addressing system. I only have a vague grasp of all this, so corrections, additions and, best of all, authoritative sources (English or Thai) would be very welcome. Jpatokal (talk) 03:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Phuket Province -> Phuket[edit]

I have proposed moving "Phuket Province" to simply "Phuket". Please chip in. Jpatokal (talk) 04:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Bump, the discussion could use a few more viewpoints. Jpatokal (talk) 23:51, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't see why this is up for discussion. The current article name follows the naming convention for Thai provinces as Phuket Province. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:24, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Because the article is about the island, not (just) the province. Please see discussion at the link above. Jpatokal (talk) 11:13, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

vandalization of Bhumipol redirect[edit]

See Talk:Bhumipol Adulyadej re a vandalization edit of the Bhumipol redirect this last May, which I just discovered by accident.Skookum1 (talk) 07:04, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

help please[edit]

Could someone please help by adding the Thai name to Wiriyah Ruechaipanit? I think any really good sourcing is likely under that, thank you! Sportfan5000 (talk) 22:27, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move for Buddha Loetla Nabhalai[edit]

This notice is a bit late, but the discussion is at Talk:Buddha Loetla Nabhalai#Requested move (2013). --Paul_012 (talk) 01:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Request for verification of Thai language used[edit]

Could someone who knows Thai verify a recent change to the Thailand section of the Hate speech article? See Talk:Hate speech for details? Thanks, --Jeff Ogden (W163) (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Sa Kaeo City F.C.[edit]

You have Talkback there. Collectively. And I wish you good luck... Peridon (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update[edit]

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:30, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Popcorn shooters[edit]

Which articles should mention the Popcorn Shooters? Current link [9]. --Bagwacarpra (talk) 09:35, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

That would probably be 2013–14 Thai political crisis. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

Draft:People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC). FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:16, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi, Can anybody help to me translate this surname "Chamswad" to Thai ? also is there any other English transliteration for this surname ? thanks in advance. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

The answer to your first question would be แช่มสวัสดิ์. Spellings can vary greatly from person to person, so I'd venture a yes on the second. Following the RTGS it would be "Chaemsawat". No doubt there are other spellings still. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:51, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer. I really appreciate it. actually I was looking to find a complete name of a Thai Equestrian athlete, only listed as C. Chamswad in official reports. after your help I googled it and I found "เฉลิมฉาน แช่มสวัสดิ์". Can you translate the given name? The answer google translator gives me doesn't look accurate. again thanks in advance. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
I could only find one instance of เฉลิมฉาน แช่มสวัสดิ์ via Google, at I guess this is the page you're referring to. He now appears, I think, to be known as Chalermcharn Yotviriyapanit (เฉลิมฉาน ยศวิริยะพาณิชย์) or Tor Chalermcharn (nickname + given name). --Paul_012 (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, It was really helpful. Mohsen1248 (talk) 14:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thai province borders[edit]

I've just come across this edit to Sakon Nakhon Province, which claimed that it borders Bueng Kan Province; this was reverted by a vandalism fighter because of the IP's other edits. However, the article on Bueng Kan claims that it borders Sakon Nakhon, while the Sakon Nakhon article does not make the converse claim. Could somebody sort out this discrepancy? Thanks! Graham87 10:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

The provinces do share borders. I've reverted the reversion. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:27, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Thai GP?[edit]

Thai Grand Prix has been nominated for deletion -- (talk) 04:24, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 15/05[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bua Loi. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 00:09, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in Asia may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 21:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Thailand At Wikimania 2014[edit]

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to:
Project leaflets
Adikhajuria (talk) 14:40, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Temple identification[edit]

Sawatdee ka! Can anyone please help me identify this temple? File:UnknownTemple1.jpg Name of temple? Is there an article about it? I may have more photos, please let me know if you would be interested in working with me. Thank you! USchick (talk) 01:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

@USchick: Directly under the line on that plate is the name - Wat Phra Si Rattana Mahathat Woramahawihan (วัดพระศรีรัตนมหาธาตุวรมหาวิหาร), the main temple of Phitsanulok. andy (talk) 07:33, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Awesome! Thanks a lot! USchick (talk) 07:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses[edit]

Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--Kaiyr (talk) 14:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Question about Saint John Mary International School[edit]

Upon seeing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint John Mary International School I found editors were unable to find reliable sources on this school. Does anyone know if the Bangkok Post has written articles on it?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 03:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Help reviewing Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bantoon Lamsam Please[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bantoon Lamsam looks like a simple acceptance or a simple decline. But I cannot judge. Help, please. Fiddle Faddle 15:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with reviewing AfCs, but he is clearly notable, if that is the concern. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:28, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)