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Assessment[edit]

I'm currently unsure as to how to manually start the bot which produces the assessment tables. No great rush, but it would good to have an assessment table as soon as possible. Claritas § 21:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Hello. It's been a long time since I've set up a WikiProject for the bot, but I reviewed the instructions and got it working. The missing bits that you had not done were a) placed Category:Theology articles by quality into Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments; b) transcluded the page User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Theology into Wikipedia:WikiProject Theology (this instruction is pretty much missing from the documentation); c) run the bot to get things updated right away (which is also not clearly described). That last bit involved going to http://toolserver.org/~enwp10 and running through the "List Manual Selection" section; a first manual selection was needed in order to get the WikiProject listed among those things which the bot needs to look at every 3 days, although one could have waited for 3 days to see if the bot would see the WikiProject ... I was impatient to see success :-) . In the end, you now have this WikiProject set up for automated data collection via the bot and presentation of this data through a table on your WikiProject page. Regards --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 09:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
  • P.S. What brought me here was looking at uncategorized categories, specifically Category:Bottom-importance Theology articles. If I am not mistaken, this category can now be deleted. As you are not an administrator (according to Wikipedia:List of administrators/A-F#C ), you could tag the category with {{db-self}} to put it in queue for speedy deletion. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 09:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Using an image of God[edit]

I recommend removing the picture of God in this project. In Christianity, Islam, & Judaism, making any type of image of God is unacceptable. The source for this is Exodus 20:4-6. Just looking to make you more credible here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korny09 (talkcontribs) 16:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Since that picture has survived over 500 years without being suppressed as blasphemous, I see no reason to remove it from the project page. —C.Fred (talk) 16:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't know about Islam and Judaism, but in Catholicism and most of Christianity, we encourage the use of images of God (the anti-picture movement is a heresy we call Iconoclasm). CanonLawJunkie (talk) 16:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Matt 1:13-16 the killing of all Bethlehem’s firstborn by Herod to terminate a competitive prince was not stopped by God – however in Acts 12:21-23 Herod is struck down and eaten by worms because he didn’t give glory to God. I think if a God was upset at using his image he could stick up for himself. 178.109.174.194 (talk) 09:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)gossamer 8 May 2011

RfC on Logos[edit]

An editor has proposed a complete rewrite of Logos, an article of interest to this project. Please see Talk:Logos#Proposed Re-Write. -- Radagast3 (talk) 13:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Catholic–Eastern Orthodox theological differences[edit]

Assistance is urgently needed at Catholic–Eastern Orthodox theological differences. There are only two editors working there at the moment — one Orthodox and one Catholic, as best I can tell — and they are unable to reach a consensus on various issues. The area of greatest concern at the moment has to do with the Eastern Orthodox view of the nature of the physical, material body. The Orthodox editor is citing sources which (in his opinion) promote a view that the material body did not exist until after the fall of man and will not exist after the resurrection. The Catholic editor is questioning this interpretation, but the Orthodox editor is standing firm and calling the objections edit-warring. (See Talk:Catholic–Eastern Orthodox theological differences#Lossky on Adam and Eve having no flesh before the Fall.) Without input from more editors — especially some who are knowledgeable Orthodox, or at least Orthodoxy-knowledgeable — I really don't see any prospect for a consensus that can be relied upon as fairly and properly representing either settled Orthodox dogma or the spectrum of recognized Orthodox theologians. Pleas have been posted on the talk pages of some other relevant projects, and I've also gone to an outside wiki (orthodoxwiki.org) to request help, but without success so far. Richwales (talk · contribs) 20:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Theology articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release[edit]

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Theology articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Help is need at the bad faith article's theology section.[edit]

Help is need at the bad faith article's theology section. This is especially the case as to the gradual convergence shown in the etymologies and translation and commentaries regarding Double hearted, double minded, and male fide. PPdd (talk) 16:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Citation templates now support more identifiers[edit]

Recent changes were made to citations templates (such as {{citation}}, {{cite journal}}, {{cite web}}...). In addition to what was previously supported (bibcode, doi, jstor, isbn, ...), templates now support arXiv, ASIN, JFM, LCCN, MR, OL, OSTI, RFC, SSRN and Zbl. Before, you needed to place |id={{arxiv|0123.4567}} (or worse |url=http://arxiv.org/abs/0123.4567), now you can simply use |arxiv=0123.4567, likewise for |id={{JSTOR|0123456789}} and |url=http://www.jstor.org/stable/0123456789|jstor=0123456789.

The full list of supported identifiers is given here (with dummy values):


{{cite journal |author=John Smith |year=2000 |title=How to Put Things into Other Things |journal=Journal of Foobar |volume=1 |issue=2 |pages=3–4 |arxiv=0123456789 |asin=0123456789 |bibcode=0123456789 |doi=0123456789 |jfm=0123456789 |jstor=0123456789 |lccn=0123456789 |isbn=0123456789 |issn=0123456789 |mr=0123456789 |oclc=0123456789 |ol=0123456789 |osti=0123456789 |rfc=0123456789 |pmc=0123456789 |pmid=0123456789 |ssrn=0123456789 |zbl=0123456789 |id={{para|id|____}} }}

Obviously not all citations needs all parameters, but this streamlines the most popular ones and gives both better metadata and better appearances when printed. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Lay theologian[edit]

Wikipedia currently has no article titled lay theologian, although currently 15 articles link to that non-existent article.

(To one accustomed, as I am, the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics, it borders on incomprehensible to me that nothing has been posted to this present talk page since March. I'm used to the idea a posting appears on a WikiProject's talk page every half-hour or so. Is anyone alive here??) Michael Hardy (talk) 04:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

May I add: What exactly is a lay theologian? Does the term mean:
  • A theologian who is a lay person in the sense of never having been ordained to the clergy (I think that's the older meaning of the term "lay person"); or
  • A person who writes on theology without having professional qualifications in that field (the more modern meaning of the term lay person, I think)?
Michael Hardy (talk) 04:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Category clash[edit]

Hi there - I just noticed that there is a category clash between WikiProject Theology and WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics. The category in question is Category:WPTL articles which currently lists articles from both WikiProjects. I'm going to create two separate categories and send the current one to CfD, so feel free to revert/comment at the CfD if you object. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius 14:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

The CfD discussion is here. — Mr. Stradivarius 15:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Brahman#Brahman in Early Buddhism[edit]

Would anyone like to take a look at Talk:Brahman#Brahman in Early Buddhism? I've made a suggestion there for rewriting a section of the Brahman article. My rewrite wouldn't produce anything like a complete overview (it was cobbled together from what few sources I could find on short notice), but I think it's far superior to the current section, which seems to consist almost completely of original research. --Phatius McBluff (talk) 19:58, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Pope John Paul II article improvement[edit]

The Pope John Paul II article is on peer review. If anyone is interested in improving the article, please do.-- Marek.69 talk 21:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

what group would hold intrest in this topic?[edit]

pagan origins of jesus. I noticed that there is no existing page on this topic and i am looking for the group that would be most interested in the upkeep of such a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.168.139 (talk) 18:51, 8 May 2012 (UTC)