Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Time

Newcomb's formula at AfD

The article Newcomb's formula has been nominated for deletion. Your expert recommendations are welcome as to whether this is a notable topic deserving an article by itself, or should redirect to another article – and if so, which one.  --Lambiam 19:25, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Equinox

Per the rules at WP:OTD, Equinox is going to be omitted from Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/September 23 this year because it requires maintenance. I realize that it has been included in years past, but we have been making an effort to tighten up the rules. You'll notice that it was skipped for the March equinox 2011 as well. There are over 6 weeks to go, so hopefully that gives editors enough time to take care of this. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 19:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Too many solar time articles

I've noticed the following articles about, or closely related to, the various forms of solar time:

• Solar time
• Universal time

• Coordinated Universal Time

• Local mean time
• Time zone
• Earth's rotation
• Civil time

I suspect there are others I have not noticed. I propose we trim down this list and coordinate the treatment of topics among the topics in order to minimize information that is redundant among articles, contradictory, and extensively treated in one article while superficial in another. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I think Local mean time could be deleted and the content added to another article. The rest all seem to refer to distinct subject areas and all we need to do is ensure that there are no conflicts between them. Martin Hogbin (talk) 22:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Civil time could also be incorporated into another article. Martin Hogbin (talk) 22:17, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Or Time zone into Civil time. —Tamfang (talk) 01:42, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Having just read both articles, 95% of the Local mean time is covered in the article about Railway time. Thryduulf (talk) 12:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

"Calendars of X" potential deletion

I'm contemplating nominating Calendars of 2005, Calendars of 2006, Calendars of 2007, and Calendars of 2008 for deletion at AFD. Since those pages are in this project's jurisdiction, I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask here first if anyone had any thoughts about those pages, or wanted to explain to me why they shouldn't be nominated. (I'm actually pretty open to convincing in this matter, and would rather hear it now than after posting the AFD.) Below is what I had planned to write at AFD before deciding to hold off a bit longer:

For the genesis of this project, see this 2005 VPP discussion. Seems like an idea that made more sense in 2005 than it does on today's Wikipedia. The 2005 page includes Gregorian, Chinese, and Islamic calendars; pages for subsequent years include only a Gregorian calendar (2008 stops after May). Given that List of calendars lists 30+ kinds of calendars as "in use", and the 2005 page is already 71k, this seems like an impractical way of presenting information that's almost entirely included elsewhere, at Portal:Holidays/Calendar, other pages and lists linked from that portal, and in Wikipedia's pages for specific days, months and years. Theoldsparkle (talk) 20:19, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

With no objection here, I'm probably going to go ahead with the nomination on Monday or soon afterward. Theoldsparkle (talk) 04:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

UTC hue4map color system

Some of the images using the hue4map unified coloring system, the hue repeats every 6 hours, longitude= 0 -> hue=0 (red). Thus UTC, UTC+6, UTC+12, UTC-6 all use red. UTC+1, UTC+7, UTC+13, UTC-5 all use yellow. Using a unified color system allows the reader to easier recognize offsets, and reduces the number of colors used on a page like UTC+3, where maps from Europe, Russia and Africa are shown.

UTC-06:00   UTC-05:00   UTC-04:00   UTC-03:00	UTC+00:00   UTC+01:00   UTC+02:00   UTC+03:00	UTC+06:00/+12   UTC+07:00   UTC+08:00   UTC+09:00
(not all colors are fitting already)
USA Indiana	Europe	Russia   UTC+08:00 Krasnoyarsk Time
Mexio	Africa	Indonesia   UTC+08:00 Central Indonesian Time
Brazl	Antarctica	Australia   UTC+08:00 Western Standard Time

TZ master (talk) 18:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Daylight saving time by country

Perhaps someone from this project could have a look at this list. An editor is breaking it up in a whole load of small articles and I'm not sure that is the best way to proceed. Thanks. --Crusio (talk) 04:42, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This editor is making things more cumbersome and I am against his unilateral changes. Please see Daylight saving time by country#Table is thoroughly confusing and unhelpful. Elizium23 (talk) 20:44, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Error -- 3 p.m. is the tenth hour if you start with 6 a.m. as the first hour.

6 a.m. first hour 7 a.m. second hour 8 a.m. third hour 9 a.m. fourth hour 10 a.m. fifth hour 11 a.m. sixth hour 12 p.m. (noon) seventh hour 1 p.m. eighth hour 2 p.m. ninth hour 3 p.m. tenth hour

The original writer made a very common mistake be simply subtracting 1500 hours minus 600 hours and assumed, therefore, that 3 p.m. had to be the ninth hour when, in fact, it is the tenth hour. This may invalidate the entire etymological explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.186.122.6 (talk) 22:32, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Mohamed Bouazizi and the Occupy movement additions in the 2011 article

Thought you all might be interested in taking part in the Request for Comment on this subject at Talk:2011#Request_for_Comment:_Mohamed_Bouazizi_and_the_Occupy_movement_additions. Wrad (talk) 04:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Foresight Proposal

Dear WikiProject Time members, User:John_b_cassel and myself have started a proposal for a WikiProject on Foresight and Futures! Please come and take a look on the WikiProject Council proposals page[1] if this sounds interesting to you! We appreciate any tips and help! Zhanli2012 (talk) 01:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

a.m. and p.m. style

I thought WP had a standard for pm vs. PM. If so, what is it? Varlaam (talk) 07:53, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

See WP:MOSTIME. Jc3s5h (talk) 12:06, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Good Post Meridiem, Jc3s5h.

That's it. Thanks, Varlaam (talk) 18:21, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Template maze

I was trying to use the dob and dod templates in an infobox for the first time, but I think there is a confusing duplication of some sort with names being nearly identical. Can {{Death-date and age}} and {{Death date and age}} be merged, or at least have the documentation explain what the hell is the difference? The similarly naming of these templates is discouraging and I'm not even sure how to sort it out. Guidance would be appreciated. Rgrds. --64.85.220.22 (talk) 02:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)