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Biological taxonomy (history of)[edit]

I have started a discussion at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#Biological taxonomy (history of) (version of 23:52, 8 July 2014).
Wavelength (talk) 23:55, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Notification of a Request for Comment[edit]

I have made a WP:RfC on the talk page of the article for Pectinidae which can be viewed here. Please consider visiting and offering your thoughts on how to split/ join/ redirect the articles on Scallop and Pectinidae. Everyone is welcome! KDS4444Talk 07:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to use recently coined vernacular names instead of scientific names for fossil species[edit]

FYI: Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere

Those familiar with how we name articles (and why) on species only identified in the fossil record may be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds#English name vs. Scientific name,  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  00:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

A tip for quickly creating synonym redirects[edit]

As some editors may be creating redirects by copy pasting the item into the searchbox, I thought I'd present a faster way for those who do not know. (I do not mean to be a smarty pants.):

  1. Click edit at the article.
  2. Double click the synonym(s) and hyperlink (or manually add "[[" and "]]").
  3. Click preview.
  4. Shift-click on all the newly created redlinks to open in new tabs.
  5. Create the redirects.
The junk to paste in for the few who don't know:
{{R from scientific name}} <!--for redirects from scientific names to English names-->

{{R to scientific name}} <!--for redirects from English names to scientific names-->

{{R from alternative scientific name}} <!--for redirects from one scientific name to another, e.g. synonym-->

I hope some have found this helpful. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

I added a bit more to Anna's "junk" above. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:32, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Peter. I am embarrassed to say that I never knew of the "R from alternative scientific name", but will use it from now on. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:34, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

👍 Like.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

List of new articles[edit]

I'm looking for a page where new articles of organisms are listed, like in the GermanWiki the page de:Portal:Lebewesen/Neue Artikel. Thanks!--Varanus kujawis (talk) 13:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

@Varanus kujawis: There's no single place to see all new articles on organisms. You can find the various organismal WikiProjects that have signed up for new articles alerts at User:AlexNewArtBot#Biology and medicine. Click on the "Search results" link found on each line to see the new articles for that group of organisms. You'll probably be most interested in User:AlexNewArtBot/HerpetologySearchResult. Plantdrew (talk) 16:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikiproject Tree of Life icon[edit]

The identifying graphic of this wikiproject (see the top of this page) is a high-detail diagram designed to be seen at a large size. Its usage as an icon here is ineffective, as it appears to be little more than a pale blue ring. I propose that someone, possibly I, create a clear, recognisable design. Thoughts? JamesDouch (talk) 06:06, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@JamesDouch: Sounds good!  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
It's difficult to think of a design when the scope of this wikiproject is so broad. Do you think this will be ok?
WikiProject Tree of Life icon.jpg
JamesDouch (talk) 11:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
"Tree of life"
It's pretty plain. I think a more artistic icon would be preferable: something intermediate between overly complex and overwhelmingly simple. How about something based on classical "tree of life" illustrations, which, while clearly recognizing they are outdated, pay homage to the historical development of classifications schemes and history of evolutionary thought? --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I like it. Maybe rounded corners. We're talking about organics here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:57, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Animalparty, I prefer both proposals over the current icon. The discussion has halted here. If it means replacing the current icon sooner, then I am in favour of your proposal. JamesDouch (talk) 12:23, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge/redirect[edit]

Principle of the First Reviser into International Code of Zoological Nomenclature#Principle of the First Reviser. Discuss at Talk:International_Code_of_Zoological_Nomenclature#Proposed_merge_with_Principle_of_the_First_Reviser Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:27, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Are there any books like this[edit]

Hello. I was wondering if there books that feature the descents of various popular and interesting organism. There are many that place animals in the ecosystem, for example. What about in their evolutionary relationships? Howunusual (talk) 22:27, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Some popular books that immediately come to mind are Dawkins' The Ancestor's Tale or Shubin's Your Inner Fish. A simple book search for "____ evolution" (e.g. "Mammal evolution" or "insect evolution") will yield many results, such as Mammal Evolution: An Illustrated Guide or Pterosaurs: Natural History, Evolution, Anatomy. There is more in-depth discussion in many academic books, such as paleontology textbooks. --Animalparty-- (talk) 00:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

A bot for synonyms[edit]

Maybe this has been discussed before, but:

Can we have a bot that takes all synonyms listed in taxoboxes and makes them into redirects to the article? Anna F remote (talk) 13:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Interesting idea, but a bit of caution is needed since taxoboxes sometimes contain information like "Fooia bara Smith, non Fooia bara Jones". Peter coxhead (talk) 19:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Good point. Maybe some sort of precise search would be safe. I guess the bot people may know if this is even possible. I will post at Wikipedia:Bot requests. Thanks for the feedback. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:49, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
I posted here: Wikipedia:Bot requests#Bot for creating synonym redirects
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

American paddlefish[edit]

The FAC reviewer gave his support after reviewing the article, and suggested the following ...ask relevant WikiProjects on their talk pages to drop by the review. See it here: [1] Your time will be greatly appreciated. AtsmeConsult 15:58, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Notability for scientist biographies[edit]

Whoops, meant to post this at WikiProject Biolgy. I've moved the discussion there: Talk:WikiProject Biology#Notability for scientist biographies. --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)