Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Vital articles

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Expansion[edit]

If anyone is looking at this talk page, does anyone have any suggestions for what more articles should be included? Particularly, I am speaking of the Southern Hemisphere, which is lacking. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

My Suggestion for vital storm articles would be those storms that caused the name to be retired - ie Katrina 05 - Jason Rees (talk) 22:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, all retired Atlantic, EPAC, and WPAC names are already on the list. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Attachment 2B of this WMO Report/Technical Document gives a "list of tropical cyclone names withdrawn from use due to a cyclone's negative impact onone or more countries" for Perth, Darwin, Brisbane, Port Moresby, and Nadi. It is current to 2006 (so recent names are missing), and there are four gaps (Helene, Koko, Juliette, and Pate in Nadi's retirement list). Despite these, if a list of SH retired names is needed, you won't get a better list than this. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 04:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Igor?[edit]

User:YE and I have been having a big debate on Instant Relay Chat on whether or not Hurricane Igor should be on the list for a vital article. It was the most destructive hurricane to strike the Canadian island of Newfoundland on record, and the third-wettest tropical cyclone in Canadian history. Additionally, it was only the second time that the Meteorological Serve of Canada requested for a hurricane name to be retired. I noticed that Hurricane Karl from the 2010 season was added on to the list as being the most destructive tropical cyclone to strike Veracruz in history. However, it wasn't retired by the WMO in the spring. So, I suggest that either Karl is swapped for Igor (depending on you guys' thoughts), or we just add Igor to the list. Thoughts? – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Retirement has nothing to do with this. Karl did 27 times as much damage as Igor, and was more deadly. YE Pacific Hurricane 00:30, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Igor being added in favor of removing Cesar, as Joan (which affected the same area) was much worse. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, Juan (which affect the same general region) was worse than Igor. I think Cesar should be replaced with 1933 AHS. YE Pacific Hurricane 01:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Atlantic retired list by region[edit]

New England
  1. C-Class articleHurricane Carol
  2. Featured article Hurricane Gloria
  3. Hurricane Bob
  4. C-Class article Hurricane Irene (also Mid-Atlantic)
Mid-Atlantic
  1. Stub-Class articleHurricane Connie
  2. Start-Class articleHurricane Diane
  3. Start-Class articleHurricane Agnes
Southeast United States (excluding Florida)
  1. Start-Class articleHurricane Fran
  2. B-Class article Hurricane Floyd
  3. Featured article Hurricane Isabel (also Mid-Atlantic)
Florida
  1. Hurricane Donna (also Northeast United States)
  2. Start-Class articleHurricane Betsy (also Bahamas and Louisiana)
  3. Featured articleHurricane Eloise (also Mid-Atlantic)
  4. C-Class articleFailed good article nominee Hurricane Andrew (also Louisiana)
  5. C-Class articleHurricane Opal
  6. Hurricane Charley
  7. C-Class articleHurricane Wilma (also Mexico)
Gulf Coast (excluding Florida)
  1. Hurricane Audrey
  2. Start-Class articleHurricane Carla
  3. C-Class articleFailed good article nominee Hurricane Camille (also Virginia)
  4. Start-Class articleHurricane Alicia
  5. Featured article Tropical Storm Allison
  6. Hurricane Ivan
  7. C-Class articleFailed featured article candidateHurricane Katrina
  8. Start-Class articleFailed good article nominee Hurricane Rita
  9. C-Class articleHurricane Ike
Mexico
  1. Start-Class articleHurricane Janet
  2. C-Class articleHurricane Gilbert
  3. Hurricane Isidore
  4. Start-Class articleHurricane Stan
  5. Featured article Hurricane Dean
Cuba
  1. Hurricane Flora (also Hispaniola)
  2. C-Class articleHurricane Gustav
Hispaniola
  1. Start-Class articleHurricane Inez (also Guadeloupe and Mexico)
  2. Hurricane David (also Florida)
  3. Hurricane Allen (also Texas)
  4. C-Class article Hurricane Georges (also SE US and Puerto Rico)
  5. C-Class article Hurricane Jeanne
Puerto Rico
Lesser Antilles
  1. C-Class articleHurricane Hugo (also South Carolina)
  2. C-Class articleHurricane Luis
  3. C-Class articleFailed good article nominee Hurricane Marilyn
  4. Hurricane Lenny
Central America
  1. C-Class articleHurricane Hattie
  2. B-Class articleHurricane Fifi
  3. Hurricane Joan-Miriam
  4. Featured article Hurricane Mitch
  5. C-Class articleHurricane Felix
Canada
  1. Featured articleHurricane Hazel (also North Carolina and Haiti)
  2. Featured article Hurricane Juan
  3. A-Class article Hurricane Igor
Bermuda
  1. Featured article Hurricane Fabian

Some areas have more storms than others. In particular, Florida and the Gulf Coast have too many, IMO. I propose removing Frances, Dennis, and Gustav. I also propose removing Diana from Mexico, as that wasn't nearly as bad as other Mexican storms listed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Why is Denis listed under Gulf Coast when it was one of the worst Cuba hurricanes? Same With Gustav. Given that these are regarded as the worst Cuba hurricanes, they should stay (or at least one of them). I am iffy on Daiana. Michelle is also borderline IMO. YE Pacific Hurricane 17:22, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
If Dennis is worse, then we should remove Michelle. And Gustav doesn't seem that bad in Cuba. Regarding Diana, there are several more important Mexican hurricanes. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:33, 16 August 2012 (UTC)