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HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM WIKIPROJECT TURKEY PARTICIPANTS

Template:Turkish people[edit]

I cleaned up this sidebar template, {{Turkish people}}, as part of a routine maintenance exercise (no significant change to content, except I did remove a {{Systemic bias}} tag, as there had been no discussion on the talk page for more than 2 years). I thought it strange that, although it is listed among the 100 most-watched templates, it is currently transcluded in only one article. There isn't much point in having a sidebar or navbox template if no (or very few) articles actually use it! I hope members of this project will add it to the relevant pages. Thanks, NSH002 (talk) 15:29, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Belgradkapı. Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:03, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

OMGTurkey.com[edit]

An editor has been adding links on various Turkish-interest articles to a website called OMG! Turkey - The Turkish Celebrity Gossip & News, while in some cases [1][2] deleting other sources. Is OMG! Turkey an acceptable source for Turkish show biz and celebrity information? (I have also posted this inquiry at WP:RS/N#OMGTurkey.com.)--Arxiloxos (talk) 02:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Governors/mayors of Istanbul[edit]

Merhaba!Thanks, Google Translate!

I came across Hüseyin Avni Mutlu, the current governor of Istanbul Province, who's currently redirecting to List of Governors of Istanbul Province. I think it would be best to delete the link to encourage creation of an article on this person, who is almost certainly notable. Discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 12#Hüseyin Avni Mutlu. I expressed some confusion over Istanbul apparently having a governor and a mayor. This may or may not have much impact on the discussion. If perhaps the position of governor of Istanbul is now largely ceremonial, perhaps the person isn't as important as I would think. --BDD (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

For the last point; the governors are non-political people and are appointed by the government. They are largely responsible in security of the whole province. The mayors on the other hand are elected people. Up until recently their sphere of influence was limited to a single city in the province. (After March 2014 in some provinces, the authority of the mayors will increase) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

TAFI needs global view[edit]

Today's article for improvement is Reconnaissance satellite, which is currently tagged with {{globalize}}. According to {{Rest of the World Reconnaissance Satellites}}, Turkey has 2 (1, 2 recon satellites, but as yet the page has no material regarding Turkey's program. Perhaps the editors on this page would be interested in adding some information about the Turkish perspective on the subject? 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 14:45, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Arpalı Köyü, Dumlupınar, Kütahya, Turkey[edit]

Dear Turkey experts: Here's a little Afc submission about a village that needs some improvement and some reliable sources. It's soon to be deleted as a stale draft. I thought I would post here to see if anyone would like to fix it up so that it can be added to the encyclopedia. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 20/03[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/ilbank. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Pls see İlbank. --CeeGee 12:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Leliko[edit]

Article on a Turkish animated children's series. Has had a rough start. Was created as a fake article from beginning based on Steven Universe and attempts from new users and IPs to correct it has been (in good faith) reverted by patrollers. For details see Talk:Leliko. I have stubed it, and invite any of you speaking Turkish to expand it if possible. (The corresponding article on tr.wikipedia looks like it could need a helping hand too.) Best, Sam Sailor Sing 13:46, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball#Turkish basketball teams' article name[edit]

I just started a discussion about the naming convention for Turkish basketball teams. I need an input from anyone here especially those who are familiar Turkish sports and their multi-sports clubs. Thanks! — MT (talk) 13:39, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in Asia may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 21:22, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Turkish help requested: Etiler Anadolu Lisesi[edit]

Would anyone knowing Turkish be okay with looking at the article Etiler Anadolu Lisesi? I looked at the school history page at http://mebk12.meb.gov.tr/meb_iys_dosyalar/34/03/158780/icerikler/tarihcemiz_166749.html but with Google Translate it's hard to tell what it's saying. I want to add the info on the page to the article WhisperToMe (talk) 01:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Replied on the user page. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:09, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Turkey At Wikimania 2014[edit]

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

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Adikhajuria (talk) 12:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis[edit]

The following individuals who are in the scope of this project are showing to be alive on the English wiki, but deceased on another language wiki:

  1. Tamer Balci: de:Gestorben 1993

Please help to find reliable sources to confirm if these individuals are alive or dead, or correct any mis-categorization on the relevant foreign-language article(s). Please see WP:LIVINGDEAD for more info and raise any issues on the talkpage. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --CeeGee 15:37, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Writing Wikipedia articles on academic books[edit]

How many of you are interested in writing Wikipedia articles on academic books? For instance, I found:

  • Boğaç A. Ergene: Local Court, Provincial Society and Justice in the Ottoman Empire, Legal Practice and Dispute Resolution in Çankırı and Kastamonu (1652-1744). Studies in Islamic Law and Society, volume 17, Brill, Leiden, 2003. ISBN 90-04-12609-0.

There is a review in: Die Welt des Islams. If you use a library search engine you may find more WhisperToMe (talk) 16:05, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Vast majority of WP editors are volunteered amateurs and academic essays may require something more.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I am aware they are amateurs. But they don't have to write an academic essay itself. Just a summary of what the sources are saying. As an example I'm writing: Before Homosexuality in the Arab‐Islamic World, 1500–1800. You can use WP:RX to acquire these academic sources. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses[edit]

Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--Kaiyr (talk) 09:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Dersim Province[edit]

The official name of the province is Tunceli province not Dersim, however in English Wikipedia it's moved to Dersim Province by someone (Ahmetyal (talk · contribs)) quite possibly with political agenda or whatnot. One can clearly see this at the site of Agency of Provinces (Turkish: İller İdaresi) that the name of the province is indeed Tunceli. Please move it back to Tunceli province and lock the move requests without a real good reason. -- Infestor  TC 23:49, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I've changed the name but I also gave two reliable sources. If they appear to be wrong on the matter, then we have no choice but to change it back to Tunceli. However it seems weird that the name has not 'officialy changed' when Erdogan promised this and implemented a law about this. --Ahmetyal (talk) 09:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
The name is still Tunceli Province.(see http://www.tunceli.gov.tr/) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Presently, the name of the province is Tunceli. Please check the following pages The official population statistics for Tunceli Province, Tunceli Province governor's page,Tunceli University page So what is the reason of this discussion ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
It's to decide which of the two names should be used, so that the chosen name may be applied consistently, because at present some articles use one and some the other. When a topic is controversial, a unilateral decision is always bad, and one-by-one changes to pages can take forever to finish. What I certainly want to avoid is a repeat of the problems of a few weeks ago (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive252#User:Master Tyranus reported by User:Ahmetyal (Result: prot), User talk:Redrose64#Tunceli/Dersim Dispute, User talk:Master Tyranus#August 2014), which resulted in a lot of cleanup for myself and other admins. The worst of these was a series of WP:CUTPASTE page moves, which would still have been undesirable even if they had been discussed. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
The cut&paste page moves by Master Tyranus (talk · contribs) have resumed after exactly two months. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
News on this topic: Davutoglu will visit the province on Monday and here the name will be changed to Dersim. --Ahmetyal (talk) 23:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC) http://www.subuohaber.com/politika/tunceli-dersim-oluyor-h4878.html

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

"Anatolian Black"[edit]

FYI, the usage of "Anatolian Black" is up for discussion, see Talk:Anglo-Nubian -- 65.94.171.225 (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Translation please[edit]

Could someone add a translation to Template:Contrib-tr1 in the style of Template:Contrib-ta1, please? Bazj (talk) 13:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Done. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Bazj (talk) 19:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Turkish spelling of a location in Cyprus[edit]

Would anyone be able to confirm my suspicion here? 93.109.171.237 (talk) 18:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Done Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:08, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Nedim, but the page you've used as reference is an off-wiki copy of List of cities, towns and villages in Cyprus, so I've had to revert your change. 83.168.23.138 (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Laçça and Laçya were the names derived from the Turkish spelling of the name Latsia. But according to googleearth, Uluyurt is the newer name for the very same location. Use it if you like; I am not going to be reverted for the second time. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 02:46, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Potentially related[edit]

I'm not sure if this has any knock-on for Turkey articles or not, someone better versed might want to take a look: Talk:Qabala#Requested_moves. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:06, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Corruption in Turkey[edit]

So.. The article "Corruption in Turkey" say that it's a "popular tradition", the Anti-Corruption article by Bryane Michael is re-labeled "Pro-Corruption" in the link to the source, and it is being said that Turkey ranks #1 in the Corruption Perception Index 2013, when it in fact was ranked 53rd.. and also states that it's "a title it has held for the last 3000 years.".. It's been like that since 12th of october, the four following edits hasn't touched it.. so, what's up with that? 192.89.97.1 (talk) 13:47, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

According to the results page of the source [3] Turkey is shown in orange color which means mid place in the list of best and worst. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 15:20, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live![edit]

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Hello everyone!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Major changes/corrections in Turkish geographical region articles[edit]

I had made these changes unilaterally, but was soon reverted by User:Bgwhite, who asked me to seek consensus here. So here I am. Here is a sample of what I propose to do in the articles:

Major changes/corrections

Maps

Right now, these maps are used in the article:

These maps are quite simply incorrect; the borders of the geographical regions of Turkey do not overlap with the borders of the administrative provinces.

This is the correct map of the geographical Aegean Region:

Provinces in the Aegean Region

Since the borders do not overlap, there can be no clear-cut list of provinces in the Aegean Region.

Right now, this list is featured in the article:

This list is also incorrect.

If we want to list the provinces in the Aegean Region, we will need at least two, but preferable three categorizies:

  1. Provinces that are entirely in the Aegean Region.
  2. Provinces that are mostly in the Aegean Region.
  3. Provinces that are partially in the Aegean Region.

According to this map, which shows both geographical and provincial borders, the correct list should be as follows:

Provinces in the Aegean Region

Provinces that are entirely in the Aegean Region:

Provinces that are mostly in the Aegean Region:

Provinces that are partially in the Aegean Region:

Population

Since the geographical borders are imprecise (they don't overlap with district borders either), there is no convenient way to calculate the population of the geographical Aegean Region, or other geographical regions of Turkey for that matter. Any figure you see on the Internet in this regard is, at best, imprecise guesswork. I propose that we rank geographical regions among themselves and leave it at that.

Eagerly awaiting comments. Regards. --Mttll (talk) 11:10, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I see your point. Geographical region and administrative unit are different things. Muğla , Denizli and Afyon have territories out of the Aegean Region. But no harm in considering İzmir, Manisa and Kütahya completely in the Aegean Region. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:17, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

If we assume this map is perfectly accurate, Izmir and Manisa seem to have some territory in the Marmara Region, like 1% and 3% respectively. For Kütahya, the figure seems closer to 0.01%. Anyway, that's a relatively minor point. The far more pressing issue is the correction of maps and such. By the way, I forgot to mention: I had added the actual subdivision of the geographical Aegean Region, but it was reverted as well:

Subdivision

  • Aegean Section (Turkish: Ege Bölümü)
    • Edremit Area (Turkish: Edremit Yöresi)
    • Bakırçay Area (Turkish: Bakırçay Yöresi)
    • Gediz Area (Turkish: Gediz Yöresi)
    • İzmir Area (Turkish: İzmir Yöresi)
    • Küçük Menderes Area (Turkish: Küçük Menderes Yöresi)
    • Büyük Menderes Area (Turkish: Büyük Menderes Yöresi)
    • Menteşe Area (Turkish: Menteşe Yöresi)
  • Inner Western Anatolia Section (Turkish: İç Batı Anadolu Bölümü)

--Mttll (talk) 14:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Volkan Karatas[edit]

Would some of you cast an eye at Volkan Karatas? It is really difficult to find English sources, but Turkish sources might be out there. -- Sam Sing! 16:51, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

A location question[edit]

Hello - I've been working on some articles on Ottoman warships, and I'm currently rewriting the article on Ottoman ironclad Mesudiye. I've come across a reference to a Büyükdere that is not mentioned on that dab page, but I don't know where else it might be. I'm guessing it's a suburb of Istanbul, since it's mentioned in the context of the fleet's operations against Bulgarian forces during the First Balkan War and there is a Büyükdere Avenue in the city. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 00:17, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Good guess. Please refer to an online map. It is a neighborhood of İstanbul on the European side of the Bosphorous, about 7 kilometres (4.3 mi) north of the FSM (north) bridge. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Is it likely that the neighborhood is notable enough for an article? Even if it's currently a redlink, I'd rather have something to point to than nothing. Parsecboy (talk) 12:56, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Article that needs your attention as a Requested Move: Greek Muslims[edit]

There is an article on wikipedia called Greek Muslims. I am not sure if Turkish editors have come across it, but it is about Greek speaking Muslims who have and still identify as Turks(as it is pointed out in the article). Many years back, its neutral title was Greek speaking Muslims and later it was changed to Greek Muslims. I have requested that the former name be restored as the current name implies that those people are Greek. I have written much more about the reasons for change in the Talk page Talk:Greek Muslims#Requested move 24 February 2015 that needs additional input. The RM has just been relisted to allow for it. Moreover, the article is not part of the Turkey Portal. Can something be done also to deal with that issue, as the article deals with communities that identify strongly as Turks and not Greeks. Resnjari (talk) 08:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Article that needs your attention as a Requested Move: Anatolian High School[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that Anatolian High School be renamed and moved to Anadolu High School. Please read the comments and share your idea on Talk:Anatolian_High_School. 141.196.194.225 (talk) 22:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

File:Armenian woman kneeling beside dead child in field.png to appear as POTD[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors at Turkey Portal know that File:Armenian woman kneeling beside dead child in field.png will be appearing as picture of the day on April 24, 2015. You can view and edit the POTD caption at Template:POTD/2015-04-24.

The same announcement was made at Armenian Genocide, but I think this forum ought equally to know what is planned.

Picture of the day
Armenian Genocide

An Armenian woman kneeling beside a dead child in a field during the Armenian Genocide, conducted by the government of the Ottoman Empire. The genocide is conventionally held to have begun on 24 April 1915, when Ottoman authorities arrested and later executed some 250 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders. Much of the remaining Armenian population were deported into the deserts of Syria, where most died from starvation, exhaustion, and systematic massacres. The total number of people killed has been estimated at between 1 and 1.5 million. Though the events are widely recognized as a genocide by historians, the Turkish government rejects such a description.

Photograph: American Committee for Relief in the Near East; restoration: MjolnirPants
ArchiveMore featured pictures...

c1cada (talk) 21:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)