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New category

I'm going to create a category for Union support in the South during the Civil War (for articles like State of Scott), and a subcategory for Southerners who supported the Union (for biographical articles like John Netherland), but I'm not sure what to name them. Any suggestions? Bms4880 (talk) 15:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

How about one named Confederate/Southern Sympathizers???? Indiana had a few for sure.Coal town guy (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to consult with the members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/American Civil War task force. Their main interest is military topics, but they likely have some thoughts on this topic. --Orlady (talk) 17:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I posted the question on their discussion page. I also noticed there is a Southern Unionists article. And yes, Coal town guy, I assume there will need to be a similar category for Confederate-sympathizers in the North. Bms4880 (talk) 13:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

It looks like "Southern Unionists" could be a good category name, to go along with the article. --Orlady (talk) 14:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I went with the longer name, as apparently "Southern Unionist" can also refer to UK supporters in Ireland. I'll wait a day or two before mass-adding pages to the category, in case the Military project comes up with any objections. Bms4880 (talk) 15:10, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Census data for San Leon, Texas

At San Leon, Texas someone tried to update the census info but only changed one value. Would anyone mind adding the proper 2010 and 2000 census info here? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Tench Tilghman Grave Site.jpg

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VisualEditor is coming

The WP:VisualEditor is designed to let people edit without needing to learn wikitext syntax. The articles will look (nearly) the same in the new edit "window" as when you read them (aka WYSIWYG), and changes will show up as you type them, very much like writing a document in a modern word processor. The devs currently expect to deploy the VisualEditor as the new site-wide default editing system in early July 2013.

About 2,000 editors have tried out this early test version so far, and feedback overall has been positive. Right now, the VisualEditor is available only to registered users who opt-in, and it's a bit slow and limited in features. You can do all the basic things like writing or changing sentences, creating or changing section headings, and editing simple bulleted lists. It currently can't either add or remove templates (like fact tags), ref tags, images, categories, or tables (and it will not be turned on for new users until common reference styles and citation templates are supported). These more complex features are being worked on, and the code will be updated as things are worked out. Also, right now you can only use it for articles and user pages. When it's deployed in July, the old editor will still be available and, in fact, the old edit window will be the only option for talk pages (I believe that WP:Notifications (aka Echo) is ultimately supposed to deal with talk pages).

The developers are asking editors like you to join the alpha testing for the VisualEditor. Please go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and tick the box at the end of the page, where it says "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main namespace and the User namespace)". Save the preferences, and then try fixing a few typos or copyediting a few articles by using the new "Edit" tab instead of the section [Edit] buttons or the old editing window (which will still be present and still work for you, but which will be renamed "Edit source"). Fix a typo or make some changes, and then click the 'save and review' button (at the top of the page). See what works and what doesn't. We really need people who will try this out on 10 or 15 pages and then leave a note Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback about their experiences, especially if something mission-critical isn't working and doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.

Also, if any of you are involved in template maintenance or documentation about how to edit pages, the VisualEditor will require some extra attention. The devs want to incorporate things like citation templates directly into the editor, which means that they need to know what information goes in which fields. Obviously, the screenshots and instructions for basic editing will need to be completely updated. The old edit window is not going away, so help pages will likely need to cover both the old and the new.

If you have questions and can't find a better place to ask them, then please feel free to leave a message on my user talk page, and perhaps together we'll be able to figure it out. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:12, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Correction: Talk pages are being replaced by mw:Flow, not by Notifications/Echo. This may happen even sooner than the VisualEditor. WhatamIdoing (talk) 14:39, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Your Opinions of My U.S.-Related Articles

Hello everyone,

I have a question--what are all of your opinions on the U.S.-related articles that I created, such as:

• Historical polling for U.S. Presidential elections
• The Autobiography of Calvin Coolidge
• List of autobiographies by Presidents of the United States
• Grover Cleveland Presidential campaign, 1892
• Urbanization in the United States
• Historical racial and ethnic demographics of the United States
• List of United States Presidents by net worth
• And maybe some other U.S.-related articles

Thank you very much. Futurist110 (talk) 00:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Not a bad start. I think some of your paragraphs are too long, but that's a personal opinion. Also, the urbanization and the racial and ethnic demographics articles have too many photographs. In the latter, it affects the formatting, creating a giant block of white space. Bms4880 (talk) 14:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I just finished trying to follow your advice in regards to improving these two articles of mine that you mentioned. How do these two articles look right now (after my improvements/changes/edits)? Futurist110 (talk) 07:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Much better. Nice job. Bms4880 (talk) 23:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

File:1915-1916 glee club.JPG

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File:Heuschrecke10.jpg

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File:TUhawkins.jpg & File:TUNewell.jpg & File:TUStephConstr.jpg

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2013 Boston Marathon finish line explosion.png

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Central Time Zone

The usage of Central Time Zone is up for discussion, see Talk:Central Time Zone (North America) -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:12, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

MIT Air study on decline in US air travel

There is an MIT study about the decline in US air travel

• Wittman, Michael D. and William S. Swelbar. "Trends and Market Forces Shaping Small Community Air Service in the United States." (Archive) Massachusetts Institute of Technology International Center for Air Transportation. Report No. ICAT-2013-02. MIT Small Community Air Service White Paper No. 1, May 2013.

The WSJ has an article summarizing the study:

• "Leaner Airlines Mean Fewer Routes, Study Shows." Wall Street Journal. May 7, 2013.
  • Yahoo version of the article: http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/leaner-airlines-mean-fewer-routes-233000930.html - http://www.webcitation.org/6GUuDJ8fy

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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File:Bert Kinner.jpg

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File:Mural LA Central Library.jpg

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Laura Ingalls aviator 2a.jpg

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1938WoodenNickelNorthwestTerritory150thCelebration.jpg

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File:1852 $1 US Liberty Head Gold Piece (New Orleans).jpg

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template:United States Military Aerial Refueling Aircraft

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All of the above are prime examples of why I don't waste my time uploading images. Unless you took the picture yourself it just gets deleted...unless its uploaded to commons and its porn, then its fine. Kumioko (talk) 02:50, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, some of the people nominating things for deletion are rather undiscriminating in their selections. If it doesn't have the proper template in the properly filled in manner, it gets a speedy deletion tag, instead of actually fixing the errors (like a typo in the parameter name, or placing info into the wrong parameter) or examining the edithistory/uploadhistory for the missing information (such as well there's a bot error deleting information) Some of these deletionists even think that sourcing means requiring a live URL, so anything without a URL is "unsourced" regardless of non-URL sourcing, or the fact that X years has passed since upload and the source has died in the meantime. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 04:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

East GA College seal.jpg

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File:Auburn statue.jpg

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File:BaltimorePoliceBadge.png

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File:Alice T. Littlefield pastel.jpg

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Phoebeprince.jpg

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File:Alex Haley thank you note.jpg

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File:Viola Davis Brown, Graduation photo, Nazareth School of Nursing, 1959.jpg

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File:Florence 2008.jpg

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It is up for deletion because it has no metadata -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 23:28, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Blakely Plantation House.jpg

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Problem with article "United States debt ceiling"

The article "United States debt ceiling" contains an incomplete sentence that I cannot fix. It is the following sentence in the section "Default on financial obligations:"

"In 2011, the Treasury that it cannot prioritize certain type of expenditures because all expenditures are on equal footing under the law." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eighttone (talk • contribs) 00:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)