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Supporting the Future class[edit]

Would there be any objection to supporting the already commonly used Future class in the WP US template? This is used for articles that are being written about a subject (I assume always an event) that occurs in the near future. I've been informed on the template page that the change to support it is about as simple as it gets. Thoughts? Stevie is the man! TalkWork 20:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

I also just found an earlier discussion of this. It seems the objection then was that the Future assessment wouldn't get updated on a timely basis -- but that applies to any quality assessment as far as my experience goes. Also, like expressed in that discussion, I think individual projects should get to decide whether they use it. WP US enabling it isn't making any specific project do any particular thing with regards to this class. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 21:04, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't see the point to FUTURE class, even if it occurs in the future, it still can be rated as stub start etc class (though not GA or FA), so it is more problematic, as it removes quality information. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 04:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
IMO, FUTURE and LIST should be separated from quality assessment, since they are not quality information, they are type information. The Banner should instead include a "pagetype=" evaluator to indicate the type of page attached (ie. TEMPLATE, LIST, FUTURE, etc); though I know that any such discussion would need to go through WP1.5 or WP2.0 and possibly WPCOUNCIL -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 04:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
To be perfectly clear, I am not seeking opinions on the usefulness or appropriateness of Future-Class. It exists and all I am looking for is support from the project banner. Individual projects can decide if it is useful for their project. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 12:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
This is a separate discussion (IMHO), but a pagetype parameter might be a good idea. You're right that WP US cannot decide that on its own. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 12:58, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Stevietheman, I don't know how active WPUS is to discuss supporting this. I see this talk page has over 200 watchers. I wasn't around when this project started up, but I think Kumioko was pretty much the architect of the assessments, and he is no longer active on Wikipedia. Personally, I'm not knowledgeable on the subject matter. I think it would be helpful for others if there were some detail here as to exactly what Future class is. From Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment A topic where details are subject to change often. The article covers a future topic of which no broadcasted version exists so far and all information is subject to change when new information arises from reliable sources. With multiple reliable sources there might be information that contradicts other information in the same or other articles. And for anyone who wants examples of what such articles would be there is Category:Future-Class articles. — Maile (talk) 13:17, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
    • I've read about the controversies surrounding WP US and WP Louisville never really outright agreed to the merging. It was done just because it was inactive/semi-active around the time of Kumioko's request. Now, I'm working to bring the project back to life, and I would prefer that the project have settings that are widely supported except by this particular banner. As a programmer and one who understands template development fairly well, it wouldn't take much work to conduct an unmerging. But I don't want to do anything that drastic over this specific issue. However, if WP US can't do the simple thing to enable this class, it's not looking good for the future of WP Louisville's inclusion. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 14:05, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
  • You guys know that your template already support Future-class, right? ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  16:47, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Enlighten us a little more Salvidrim!. I just tried to change an existing WPUS article from a C class to a Future class, and all that did in reality was change the C to question marks. I tried just "F", "Future" and "future"....just questions marks appeared. — Maile (talk) 16:56, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
I asked on the template page, and this is really the equivalent of flipping a switch. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 17:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
My mistake; I was told it was enabled since the Category page had been created, but it has never been added too Template:WikiProject United States/class; however that indeed is no more complicated than "flipping a switch". ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  17:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
WOSlinker, you are the last sysop to edit the WPUS template mentioned right above here. You would seem to be a good person to offer some informed assistance here. Please advise if you can enable "Future" class for WPUS and all the individual projects associated with WPUS. If not, please advise on how to proceed on this. — Maile (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Since there wasn't any objections, I've added it. -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I just tested this on a Texas article, and it works fine. — Maile (talk) 17:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Support or Oppose Future class in the WP US template[edit]

How about opening it up to Support or Oppose, and let anyone interested say so here. — Maile (talk) 16:36, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Support - Mostly, because it won't hurt to have the Future class option on the template. It already exists as one option on Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment. As described above by Stevietheman, it seems to me to be just an additional assessment option on the WPUS template. Nobody here is obligated to assess anything as any class. We don't exactly have a stampede of volunteers assessing articles anyway. So, let's add the option.— Maile (talk) 16:36, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Support - Supporting is the equivalent of flipping a switch and causes no damage to anything, nor does it require any adaptation work by included projects (although if they choose to use it, a new assessment category has to be created for their project, but that's a snap. :) ). This is basically supporting an assessment class that is already widely supported, whether if makes perfect sense on its merits or not. Individual projects can decide to use it or not use it. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 17:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done'Completed' Per WOSlinker above, the feature was enabled on the template. The word "Future" has to be completely typed out (not case sensitive) when assessing an article as such. — Maile (talk) 17:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks to you and everyone! Stevie is the man! TalkWork 18:11, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states (illustrated, 1876)[edit]

Hi- This newly-written article is currently a Featured List Candidate. Any constructive comments, feedback, or reviews (positive or otherwise) are welcome. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 23:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Categories by county[edit]

There are a number of red-linked categories relating to populated places in America, e.g. Category:Unincorporated communities in Estill County, Kentucky. I propose to create some of these over the next few days, if there are no objections. All the best: Rich Farmbrough22:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC).

{{Lang-en-US}}[edit]

Template:Lang-en-US (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 08:07, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Latinos and WikiProject Mexican-American[edit]

There is an on going discussion in WikiProject Latinos on whether or not WikiProjects Latinos and Mexican-American should be merged WikiProject United States and to be renamed WikiProject Hispanic and Latino Americans. Erick (talk) 12:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Content inclusion or exclusion[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Jose Antonio Vargas#2011 License revocation. Thanks. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Request for return to page name List of Asian American Medal of Honor recipients[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of Asian-American Medal of Honor recipients#Asian American. Thanks. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:54, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

RfC input requested[edit]

Project members are invite to participate to this RfC regarding ceremonial seniority position. There has been a request for closure but there are not yet enough participants to assess consensus. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  02:51, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Government of Louisville, Kentucky requested move[edit]

It has been suggested that the subject city subarticle be moved to Louisville Metro. Please read all the arguments made so far and participate if you have a chance. Thanks! Stevie is the man! TalkWork 21:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)