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Activation[edit]

There are lots of very interesting diseases of animals that could use a VETMED project. Anyone interested in getting it going again? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:21, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I am very interested. Probably User:DrMicro might be also, although the two of us are at slight odds right now over his unduly large taxoboxes. Microbes, microbes, microbes is my area. --Kleopatra (talk) 00:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I just wanted to stop by and wish you good luck in re-starting the project. Sometime ago I decided to re-activate a number of the Animal WikiProjects and with some help from other users it has been very successful and we now have a very large number of participants, if you need any help on how to go about re-starting the project please dont hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Good Luck ZooPro 02:16, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, ZooPro. I have created a talk page archive, by years, as you suggested. --Kleopatra (talk) 03:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Count me in, at least for the horse articles! Been wanting to see more attention there for some time! We non-vets would love some folks with medical background to at least help us do some cleanup! Montanabw(talk) 02:23, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Great, Montanabw, I'm familiar with your editing through either a lot of the disease articles I monitor, or through horse articles. --Kleopatra (talk) 03:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm in too, with the horse articles. I'm in the same boat as Montana - not a vet, but can help with general cleanup. Laminitis needs some help if you're looking for suggestions... :) Dana boomer (talk) 05:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I think it's a helpful boat to be in, editors with high interest in a topic who can contribute to the copyediting and monitoring of articles, even if you are not qualified to edit the technical aspects. I'm limited in vet med, except for diseases, mostly parasitic, but also some major viral, fungal, bacterial and prion diseases. I'm also challenged in spelling, although I try to spell check everything I submit. --Kleopatra (talk) 05:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
You have problems with spelling too? I am glad I will not be alone. I have good access to vet journals if anyone needs a copy of something they find on pubmed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:19, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Article improvement candidates[edit]

We have some good company here, then. Can we find a horse disease, preferably a bacterium or parasite (African would be great), that also occurs in humans, as a group project, an article to get up to good article status? I can do a virus, also.

Here's some lists from the catgory pages: Horse diseases, Horse parasites.

Fecal egg counts in horses might be fun for all.[1]

Note on the above: We could add material on this to deworming with an eye to eventually creating a spinoff article if there's enough material. Montanabw(talk) 02:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Do a google search some time on fecal egg counts in horses, you'll be surprised. I'd like to see it as a DYK to throw it in the face of my horsey friends. ;) --Kleopatra (talk) 03:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
And your horsey friends need to see this why? (Do they pooh pooh it or worship it??) Montanabw(talk) 18:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Worship. I'm not horsey, just grew up in horsey sets and seem to spend my life around horsey people. It appears that the old practice was routine worming, but the new practice is home fecal egg counting or veterinarian fecal egg counting with worming done only as necessary. --Kleopatra (talk) 04:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
LOL! Yes, that's true. Worming every 8 weeks, rotating wormer classes frequently to avoid resistance. Now disfavored in favor of worming when egg counts warrant, and arguing that wormer classes rotated too quickly actually increase resistance to a broader spectrum of wormers. I'm amused because what's old is new -- decades ago, before paste wormers were invented and we had to worm horses with a stomach tube (this was in the 1970s) we used fecal egg counts then too because tube worming required a vet and was not as cheap as a $5 tube of ivermectin is today. I never did worm every 8 weeks year-round, partly because I live where we have very cold winters, hence 4-5 months of minimal parasite trouble. Here's my question to you: What other domestic animals routinely use fecal egg counts to guide worming? (We'd just sort of worm the cat when it went in for shots whether it was needed or not...) Montanabw(talk) 04:30, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I suggest a horse disease/parasite for a group article to see how far we can go with a group of dedicated editors, to attract attention, and because it joins the common interests of a number of us who have expressed interest thus far.

--Kleopatra (talk) 06:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Rabies#In_other_animals is one of the more famous animal/human diseases. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
The highest priority horse medical articles in WPEQ are horse colic and laminitis. However, if the interest is in parasites, then I recommend the emerging diseases of current concern: [[African horse sickness], a virus, but one which appears to be heading north into Europe, (possibly as a result of climate change, but not a clear correlation as of yet), Equine viral arteritis (EVA), another viral condition, which is a big deal because it has a venerial mode of transmission between horses and leads to abortion in pregnant mares, and (finally a parasite) Equine protozoal myeloencephalitis (EPM) which is a risk to horses throughout much of the USA. Montanabw(talk) 16:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC) Oh yeah, and also Henipavirus, which is a big deal in Australia as it is transmissible to humans and often quite fatal!. Montanabw(talk) 16:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm very interested in rabies and would like to get it or the in other animals article, to at GA status, then o FA. A friend got bit by a rabid bat a couple of months ago and just got her last shot, wow, they cost a fortune!
Montanabw, I'm also interested in the African horse sickness article. But for a first group article, I'd like to find something that is both horse, for the horse editors, and human, for the editors who work at the crossroads of human and animal communicable diseases or pathogens.
Henipavirus looks good, interesting genomics, various hosts, emerging impact on humans, not a Western World bias, lots of references at all levels.
Suggestion:
Doc James, Montanabw, everyone else, can we improve the Henipavirus article first to GA, then move onto vastly improving the rabies article? --Kleopatra (talk) 05:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Cross-fertilization, if you will with WP:Dogs may be another approach to take with the rabies article. More helpers. User:Cgoodwin, who is Australian, may be of help with Henipavirus. I'm probably not a lot of help on Henipa, but can at least keep an eye on the basics. Montanabw(talk) 20:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Another interesting thing: According to this page, the single most popular horse article that happens to have a disease focus (we don't have rabies listed at WPEQ because it's a multi-species disease not super-common in horses), is West Nile virus. (#24 on the overall list). (Cellulitis is higher, but for non horse-related reasons, it's a minor deal in the horse world). Montanabw(talk) 00:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Let's just pick something and get editing?
  1. Fecal egg counts in horses -- the article plus a picture of a pile of wormy doo could get a DYK and FP front page
  2. Rabies#In_other_animals or Rabies in animals -- one of wikipedia's most important and highly accessed topics
  3. Henipavirus -- emerging, horses and human threat, non-Western focus
  4. West Nile virus -- top accessed article, major topic, resurging, some familiarity but plenty for improvement and notice

All articles have sufficient web and off-line sources. If you don't know the topic, your ability to copyedit in general and arbitrate among good sources and order the article and make wiki style improvements and navigate links and categories and tell context writers what doesn't work or make sense, will be, as usual, necessary to improving the article.

  • Henipavirus gets my vote this time around. --Kleopatra (talk) 04:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
  • West Nile for me. Literally in my backyard, we are a trap site for mosquitos! But whatever is selected, I'm game to help. Montanabw(talk) 23:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I have not disappeared, however, I'm busy finishing up classes and other work for the next week. I suggest that we work on an article picked by the next voter, and I apologize for posting two of Montanabw's suggestions. I would like to start an official article improvement drive page here, even if only a few editors participate. We might catch more editors that way? I would like to start the drive sometime next weekend, maybe? And run an article for two weeks? --Kleopatra (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kleo, no prob. I'm helping get Appaloosa ready for FA, which is sort of where my own focus is at the moment (that and real life, as usual!). I think it does draw more attention to have some discussion on the WP project talk page. And when the time comes, either article is fine. Montanabw(talk) 02:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
At WP:MED we have Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Collaboration_of_the_Month for coordinating working on articles together. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:04, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Pages to watchlist[edit]

You can't watchlist the recent changes, but here it is to click on.[2] I guess I'll add it to the top of the project page,also.

--Kleopatra (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Mammals?[edit]

Montanabw asks if we should include WikiProject Mammals in related projects. Although the project appears to be less devoted to the domestic side of animals than veterinary medicine is in general, there is quite a bit of cross-over with primary animals kept by humans as pets, the goat, cow, cat, dog articles are all within the scope of the project. Then what about WikiProject Birds? (Not really necessary to add Birds if we add Mammals, but something to think about.)

I would say no, but I think it could be added. There may be FA potential to collaborate on certain domesticate mammal articles. Anyone feel strongly either way? --Kleopatra (talk) 06:38, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I mostly noted that several "child" projects of WP Mammals are already listed, cat, dog, horse, etc. Mostly just an inquiry as to scope (we do address articles on sheep, cattle, etc...). Montanabw(talk) 02:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I think these links are useful, and for sheep and goats, the WP Mammals would be the place to go, so I'm leaning toward adding it. --Kleopatra (talk) 06:13, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm an inclusionist on this point. I use these lists as sort of "mini directories" when I can't quite remember the name of the right WikiProject, and I don't want to mess with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

List of plants poisonous to equines[edit]

I've done a complete rewrite and reformatting of this list, and expanded it to some extent. However, I'm sure there are some or many plants that I've missed, so I would like to put it out there for everyone to look over and add to. I think this would be a nice little featured list for the project, so my only request is that any new entries be cited to reliable sources - I'll even format them for you! Dana boomer (talk) 22:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Nice looking list. I'm finishing up the semester this week, and I will try to read, comment, and add next week. Good job. --Kleopatra (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Cancer in animals[edit]

WP:MCOTW has selected Cancer as January's article. There's currently nothing at all in the article about cancer in animals or veterinary oncology. I'm not sure how many relevant articles exist (I did find cancer in dogs and cancer in cats), but it would be wonderful if someone here would create at least a tiny new section titled something like ==In other animals== at the end of this article. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Citation templates now support more identifiers[edit]

Recent changes were made to citations templates (such as {{citation}}, {{cite journal}}, {{cite web}}...). In addition to what was previously supported (bibcode, doi, jstor, isbn, ...), templates now support arXiv, ASIN, JFM, LCCN, MR, OL, OSTI, RFC, SSRN and Zbl. Before, you needed to place |id={{arxiv|0123.4567}} (or worse |url=http://arxiv.org/abs/0123.4567), now you can simply use |arxiv=0123.4567, likewise for |id={{JSTOR|0123456789}} and |url=http://www.jstor.org/stable/0123456789|jstor=0123456789.

The full list of supported identifiers is given here (with dummy values):


{{cite journal |author=John Smith |year=2000 |title=How to Put Things into Other Things |journal=Journal of Foobar |volume=1 |issue=2 |pages=3–4 |arxiv=0123456789 |asin=0123456789 |bibcode=0123456789 |doi=0123456789 |jfm=0123456789 |jstor=0123456789 |lccn=0123456789 |isbn=0123456789 |issn=0123456789 |mr=0123456789 |oclc=0123456789 |ol=0123456789 |osti=0123456789 |rfc=0123456789 |pmc=0123456789 |pmid=0123456789 |ssrn=0123456789 |zbl=0123456789 |id={{para|id|____}} }}

Obviously not all citations needs all parameters, but this streamlines the most popular ones and gives both better metadata and better appearances when printed. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Hyaluronan + sorbitol[edit]

The article on Hyaluronan mentions the use for equine osteoporosis - so I've added the "WikiProject Veterinary medicine" tag to it's talk page.

I also note that in that article is says about the hyaluronan half life in Rabbits - and that the half life is increased via various different things including sorbitol - which is (according to that article) found in apples. Are there any external reference as to whether feeding sorbitol (in the form of apples?) to horses affects their hyaluronan half life - and whether that therefore slows the degradation of the synovial fluid ?? EdwardLane (talk) 09:18, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Interesting question, I don't know. May be worth looking to see what sort of research exists That said, you'd probably have to feed a LOT of apples for that sort of effect, most of the time a treat is just one or two, sometimes sliced. Montanabw(talk) 19:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Sebaceous adenitis[edit]

If there is anyone out there in the Veterinary Medicine wikipedia community with some time on their hands, could someone have a look at the Sebaceous adenitis page I created? I'm a little stuck on the terminologies for descriptions of the condition. Anyway, if someone more knowledgeable on canine dermatology than myself could cast an eye over it I would be very grateful. Cheers --Keetanii (talk) 09:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S. If someone here feels like adding to the page, I have alot more references on my talk page.

Wikiproject Poultry[edit]

I would like to notify WikiProject Veterinary Medicine that a proposal for Wikiproject Poultry has been made and since many poultry disease articles will fall under WikiProject Poultry, I thought it best to notify you of the proposal. If anyone is interested in supporting this Wikiproject, please go to the hyperlink above. Anjwalker Talk 03:11, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Echinococcosis formatting[edit]

The first few sections of this article are a mess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinococcosis Could someone tidy it up. Thanks

Jpedant (talk) 13:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Go for it! We are all cheering for you! (smile) Montanabw(talk) 21:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I think between Montana and I we got it cleaned up. Looked like a simple vandalism edit - pretty easy to clean. Dana boomer (talk) 23:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Orf and Variola caprina[edit]

Are Orf (disease) and Variola caprina the same disease? D O N D E groovily Talk to me 05:39, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll slap a merge tag on all of them and see if the experts weigh in. I don't personally know, nor have I the time to research it myself, but I'll see if we can get someone to help sort it out. Montanabw(talk) 23:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Oral anatomy[edit]

I have recently created a new article about the sublingua ("under-tongue" or "secondary tongue") in prosimian primates, and I would like some feedback from people with veterinary knowledge on some of the terms used. I have started a discussion on the article's talk page. Thanks! – VisionHolder « talk » 20:58, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:HighBeam[edit]

Wikipedia:HighBeam describes a limited opportunity for Wikipedia editors to have access to HighBeam Research.
Wavelength (talk) 16:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Anybody care to review Equine drug testing?[edit]

Anybody care to review Equine drug testing?

-- 186.221.136.197 (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Tammar sudden death syndrome[edit]

I have just created "Tammar sudden death syndrome". Please expand it and categorize it as you see fit. Axl ¤ [Talk] 18:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

RadioFan has merged the text from "Tammar sudden death syndrome" (old article) into "Tammar wallaby". I am concerned that this places undue weight about a relatively rare disease in the article "Tammar wallaby". Also, WP:MERGE states:-

"Merging should be avoided if

...

2. The separate topics could be expanded into longer standalone (but cross linked) articles

3. The topics are discrete subjects and deserve their own articles even though they may be short"

Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I have invited WikiProject Mammals to comment. Axl ¤ [Talk] 17:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Stephen J. Roberts[edit]

Hello. I just added Stephen J. Roberts to your WP. Feel free to remove the tag if we deem it inappropriate. I would appreciate it if you wanted to work on this page and expand it, however.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Need input on move request before making a move request[edit]

At Talk:Veterinary physician, we are at an impasse over whether to move the article back to "Veterinarian" or not. There are two ways to read WP:COMMONALITY, each support one side of the argument, and now the same four people (2 on each side) have been going back and forth on this for a few weeks with no resolution. In essence, because UK English uses other terms (Veterinary surgeon, etc.) for what in the USA is a DVM, we have a dispute over whether to use the more common word "Veterinarian" or a language-neutral term like "Veterinary phyician" (or something akin to it) as was done to resolve the "airplane/aeroplane" naming dispute by naming the article Fixed-wing aircraft. We'd like some more input from those who care before we submit this to the great wide-open-wiki with a move request. Please weigh in, and thanks! Montanabw(talk) 22:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Montanabw that a fresh pair of eyes would help at the impasse at Vet Phys. I proposed renaming simply to Veterinarian, but there are concerns about this proposed move. DVMt (talk) 19:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Dental symphysis[edit]

What is "dental symphysis"? Please comment here. Axl ¤ [Talk] 11:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Overeager bot?[edit]

Anyone else notice that AnomieBOT is putting MEDRS tags on a bunch of the veterinary articles? Does the project have a position on WP:MEDRS for our articles? Not to say that good sources aren't desirable, but not sure the absurdly high standard of only sourcing to peer-reviewed journals is applicable here. Thoughts? Montanabw(talk) 15:32, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Veterinary Science editathon in London, UK[edit]

Wikimedia UK and Jisc are announcing an editathon at the Royal Veterinary College on November 20th. We will focus on common diseases that vets see in everyday practice, but contributions with any relevance to veterinary science are welcome. This is a free event, and in-person and online participation is encouraged. See the event page for more details. Cheers, MartinPoulter Jisc (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC) (link changed MartinPoulter Jisc (talk) 14:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC))

Blain[edit]

I've just completely rewritten the Blain (animal disease) article, which describes a disease of unknown etiology that was clearly common in the 18th and 19th centuries.

The previous version conflated blain with distemper, apparently solely because of a misunderstanding of the sense of the use of the word "distemper" in the original eighteenth-century source: I've removed all that, and cited both 18th and 19th century sources that identify it as the same as "gloss-anthrax", and a modern source that clarifies that "gloss-anthrax" was not the same as modern-day anthrax, and makes a couple of suggestions as to what it might have been.

I'd greatly appreciate it if someone with relevant knowledge could review it. -- The Anome (talk) 12:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Pinging on navicular disease[edit]

Discussion of gallium nitrate as a treatment for navicular in horses here: [3] Input sought Montanabw(talk) 18:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Use of "Human" in Anatomy article titles RfC[edit]

I have opened an RfC about the use of 'Human' in anatomy article titles, here (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anatomy#RfC:_Use_of_.22Human.22_in_Anatomy_article_titles), and invite comment from members of the WP:VET community. --LT910001 (talk) 03:21, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Apparently people on the project have "fought the good fight" and lost about the merging or identifying human/mammal crossover articles. Such as renal failure, and diabetes, quite common in small household pets and probably other mammals as well. The articles might contain high level stuff that applies to all mammals, or identify the ones it does apply to. The lower level articles would be named "renal failure (human)", renal failure (feline)" etc.
Others have doubtless tried this. It opens up Wikipedia immensely IMO. Student7 (talk) 16:31, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you mean with "opens up"? The result of very lengthy discussion over at WP:ANAT, where a very large body of editors were invited was that the main article such as renal failure should stay as human, with a short paragraph concerning animals, and a link to a more substantial article, for example renal failure (feline) on cats. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 08:21, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

Could you review this submission? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Cranial nerve[edit]

I'm currently working on a major restructuring and rewrite of the article, and wish to get it to at least B-class, but hopefully even higher. That way we can apply for DYK. If anyone is interested in helping out there is a draft version over here: User:CFCF/sandbox/Cranial nerve. Would do especially well with some help about veterinary medicine in the other animals section. CFCF (talk · contribs · email) 11:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/CVED[edit]

Hello, veterinary experts. Is this old Afc submission a notable topic, or should it be deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 02:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks like it IS notable, actually, the animal passport issue is a big deal to prevent diseases from being transmitted across borders. I think the article should be moved into mainspace and linked at the dab page noted here. Montanabw(talk) 23:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay, it's now at Common Veterinary Entry Document, and I also made a redirect CVED so it can be found using the acronym. I'm not sure what dab page you mean. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:32, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Animal passport, but I'll pop it in there. Montanabw(talk) 02:35, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Animal Chiropractic[edit]

Dear veterinary experts: This old Afc submission has quite a bit of information. Should some of it be added to the existing article at Veterinary chiropractic? —Anne Delong (talk) 10:04, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I think merging relevant information is a good idea, also making "animal chiropractic" a redirect would be useful for future searches, also. Montanabw(talk) 19:02, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Canine Ectopic Ureter[edit]

Dear veterinary experts: This article was declined at Afc for having too much technical jargon. It will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable topic, and should the article be kept and improved instead? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Frankly, IMHO, all it needs is some serious wikilinking of the technical jargon and a bit of formatting cleanup; I find it mroe readable than most of the math and physics articles that are already here! Montanabw(talk) 01:23, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Montanabw, I can fix the section headings, anyway. The current title begins with "canine", but the article begins with just "ectopic". Is this a particular problem with dogs, or with mammals in general? There is already an article Ectopic ureter. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I honestly don't know but I will ping @Eventer: who is working on some of the veterinary articles these days, or @Froggerlaura:, one of whom might be able to answer your question. Montanabw(talk) 19:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
This is a fairly rare condition in dogs, but can been seen in any mammal including humans where there is already a stub article at Ectopic ureter. I've personally seen it in a dog and a miniature horse. There is no difference in presentation that would warrant a separate article for animals (except the duplicated ureter common in humans is rare in animals), but the info could be merged into the human article. Froggerlaura ribbit 01:53, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, looking over the draft article, it seems that some of the information is general medical information which could be added to the mainspace article, and some is specifically about dogs, and this could be put into a separate section underneath. Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to sort this out. If any of you would like to move some of the content, I can handle the attribution if necessary. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Birth article[edit]

I changed the word vulva to introitus in sections about animal birth and someone objected to the word introitus. The two new lines are as follows: Snowman (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Birth in cattle; "... when there is external protrusion of the amniotic sac, or water bag, closely followed by the calf's front hooves being visible outside the introitus." Snowman (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Birth in dogs; "In the dog, the arrival of the first puppy is preceded by the bulging dark-colored sac appearing at the introitus." Snowman (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Any Comments? Snowman (talk) 14:49, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Addition of more jargon (that one is very obscure in vet med) will not help the reader understand the info any better. We use birth canal and vulva routinely. Froggerlaura ribbit 02:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

It is a popular article receiving abut 400 view per day. If anyone could expand the section on the birth of dogs or any other sections, that would be appreciated. Snowman (talk) 19:26, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about it. If User:Montanabw or User:DVMt are still around, then one of them is probably familiar with it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:59, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
The main problem is that the link goes to a disambiguation page. Montanabw(talk) 08:20, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Also, it appears to be a more vague word replacing a more specific term. I am reviewing the citations for these sections and if the source says "vulva," then vulva it must be unless someone provides a better source saying otherwise. Montanabw(talk) 08:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Canine parvovirus[edit]

Canine parvovirus is up for GAR at Talk:Canine parvovirus/GA2. Jamesx12345 16:53, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

cervix[edit]

Anyone able to add a section on cervix in other mammals would be great to the cervix article. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Reliable sources from research for veterinary medicine under WP:MEDRS[edit]

There has been some discussion here about what sources are reliable at Wikipedia as far as peer-review journal articles go for non-human medical content. Typically medical content is restricted to not allowing primary literature, and secondary reviews are the norm. When it comes to veterinary medicine, we can get people pushing unreliable findings from primary literature for WP:POV content, although not as often as in human health. With that in mind, I was asking over at that talkpage if veterinary medicine was included under MEDRS since it appears the guideline was written to cover all medical content and not just human health (or if people just forgot medicine doesn't pertain just to human health when writing it). Essentially I was asking if there really is a distinction to be made between what makes a source reliable here between human medicine and vet med. The only thing I can think of is that we aren't extrapolating from animal to human models, but usually testing on the animal of interest themselves for vet med. Otherwise it seems like all the issues that come up with primary sources are ubiquitous across most of the sciences in general. You can see more at the talk page discussion, but it would be nice to get more people with veterinary research experience or those who just deal with the literature a lot to weigh in on the conversation. Thanks! Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Contraceptive implant[edit]

I've marked this article as missing information on veterinary implants. Could someone help rebalance the article by adding veterinary information? -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 11:45, 18 July 2014 (UTC)