Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikify

The February Drive! "Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." —C.W.N.

Proposed change to {{Wikify}} One of the problems that has been cited with the Wikify template is that most editors believe the only problem is a lack of Wikilinks. To avoid this problem I have created a new version of the Wikify tag in my sandbox. The new version would add one more parameter to the tag which would allow taggers to give a reason. Currently my version of the Wikify tag looks like this If you add a reason {{User:Ryan Vesey/Template sandbox|reason=Insufficient wikilinks and the article is lacking an infobox}} you get Does anyone have thoughts on whether or not I should implement this change? It would cause the 19,000 articles currently tagged to all display the first template, but it could be helpful in the future. Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:16, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Not a bad idea, and if implemented I suggest we ask the folks over at Twinkle to create a prompt that opens whenever someone selects the {{wikify}} tag (using twinkle, ofc) asking them to fill that parameter in. IMO, that would be one of the better ways to let people know about it; otherwise people will just continue the current tagging. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:58, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Ahh, good idea. I will post a comment on the talk page of the template, just to make sure there is no opposition. Then I will contact Twinkle. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC) It would be the kind of dialogue box that pops up when you Twinkle CSD tag an article for General maintenance (G6) - "Please provide an optional rationale", that sort of thing. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Yep, tagging an article for cleanup also prompts for a rationale. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC) I like it. We might even get a drop in people tagging articles incorrectly when they have to stop and think of a reason. Kerowyn Leave a note 23:40, 25 August 2011 (UTC) Said prompt has been installed. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 18:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Some ideas: Instead of 1 parameter I would prefer if we had several like: |fewlinks=, |infobox=, etc. and every time an issue is fixed to remove the corresponding parameter like we do with {{Multiple issues}}. I also encourage the use of {{HTML-cleanup}} for html cleanup cases. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2011 (UTC) I tried to create multiple parameters and it was just too much work. I have also made some changes so it looks like this: The reason is in the show hide section now. It would be helpful if everyone can comment in support at Template talk:Wikify so this can actually get changed. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC) Ideally, yes, we would have multiple parameters. However, one should should do a lot because, just as Kerowyn says, thinking of any real reason to place a wikify tag might cause many of those tags not to take place. That's an absolutely awful sentence grammatically, but I think you get my point. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 19:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC) I think another benefit of an open parameter is that we will be able to directly see if someone posts the tag for the wrong reason. That way, we can put {{Nowikify}} to use. (which should always be substituted from now on) Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:29, 27 August 2011 (UTC) You've got this all planned out, dontcha? :) Hey, they're good ideas. I mean, we're almost like a real Wikiproject now! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:08, 27 August 2011 (UTC) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Ryan's changes have been implemented into {{wikify}}. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 16:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC) As I suggested above, I'd like to see the wording altered from "Make wikilinks..." to include "and check that your links work as expected" or similar. I worry that people are getting brownie points for adding links, but without being reminded to make sure that they're the right links. But no-one commented on my concerns above - perhaps an article is considered Wikified, and points scored, once it has links, any links, whether they lead to somewhere helpful or to a dab page or the wrong article? Sad. PamD 22:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC) My apologies for entirely missing your comments Pam. Heading up there right now. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 22:22, 27 August 2011 (UTC) I'm sorry as well. I saw your comments went to act, and then forgot about them when I had to leave my computer. You should bring your issues with the actual tag to Template talk:Wikify so an admin can make the change. They should be uncontroversial. Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:48, 27 August 2011 (UTC) Now that we've wrapped up the other stuff, I'll look into suggesting some of Pam's changes for {{wikify}}. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 18:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Just a note to say that the first change was added to {{wikify}} a few days ago. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC) October drive All drive pages have been set up, and the MessageDeliveryBot has received a request from me. Reward page and community noticeboard will be done on the day of. Newsletter still needs to be set up. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:42, 20 September 2011 (UTC) Newsletter Y Done. Now, Ima take a two day break from anything wikification-related. :P Nolelover Talk·Contribs 19:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC) Sorry that I'v been missing for so long. School started again and its a bit more work than I expected it to be. I hope I'll get a little more free time as I get further into the year.Sumsum2010·T·C 22:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC) No prob. RL is always more important, and its good to see you still checking in. :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 02:45, 1 October 2011 (UTC) Encouragement Sometimes, the backlogs of articles to be dealt with feels overwhelming. I'd just like to point to Wikipedia:Unreferenced BLP Rescue which, over the course of about 20 months, has managed what many thought would not be possible; the backlog was chipped away to none. We've got a lot of articles to wikify, but with some effort, we can make a difference! -- Whpq (talk) 17:30, 28 September 2011 (UTC) My wikifying I've wikified several articles for the October drive today. I'm wondering whether my wikifying is good or bad :/. I'm good at article writing, but I'm not sure whether I'm strong here. Can someone check my wikification? Thanks! HurricaneFan25 17:31, 3 October 2011 (UTC) Hey there HurricaneFan, thanks for asking. I've gone through the five articles you've listed, and I have this to say....*ten minutes later*....ehh, you're fine. I might have linked Federal and Canadian, and common words like cottage or farmhouse, but those are minor. Great job, and thanks for your work! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 11:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC) awards idea I'm back after 3 months of break. I was thinking that we could add a specific award for those who show obvious dedication/organization skills/etc. to the project as a whole (sorta like MILHIST's Chevrons). Just an idea. WikiCopter 20:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC) Well, we've got the end of year awards coming up, which will sorta be the same thing. We'll award those who have participated in every drive and so forth. You can see it at Kerowyn's talk. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC) New Copyvio Detection Tool Hey, user Δ (Betacommand) has just finished writing a tool called "Copyvio Detection Candidates" that lists all un-wikified articles over 3000 bytes so we can better purge the copyvios and obliterate that massive backlog. Essentially, the tools lists all articles that fall under Category:Articles that need to be wikified and are 3000 kb or higher, which is considered to be a point where most articles have been copied and pasted from other sources. To use the tool please add importScript('User:Δ/Copyvio Detection Candidates.js'); [1] to your individual script page, which will present a tab at the top of any cat title that has "Category:Articles that need to be wikified", or go to [2]. All hail for Beta! Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 02:11, 8 October 2011 (UTC) Excellent! Beta and I have had our differences in the past, but this is a great tool. It took me all of 30 seconds on a test run to find [3]. Thanks for the info Sp33dyphil. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:23, 8 October 2011 (UTC) No, all the recognition should be directed towards ToAruShiroiNeko (who came up with the idea), and Beta for devising the tool. Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 00:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC) Stepping down I am stepping down as assistant coordinator. First of all, this is roughly the time that we would have been electing new coordinators anyway (I say 'would' because it doesn't appear we have the activity or any reason to do so), and I simply don't have extra time or energy to devote to WWF. I have been cutting back on all my activity on-wiki, and what little I do needs to be focused on finishing a couple projects here and there. Thanks for allowing me to serve here; I have enjoyed it. Here's to this project's continued success -- Nolelover Talk·Contribs 01:09, 9 November 2011 (UTC) Awards proposal As some of you may be aware, as part of the revamp of WikiProject Wikify's award system, we have decided to add three new awards to the list: Most articles wikified in a calender year Participation in all drives (Participation is defined as having wikified at least 1 article for each drive) Most leader board appearances in a year The purpose of these awards is to reward continuous participation in the Project and to reward the outstanding dedication many editors have shown. For the purposes of these awards, we will only be considering articles wikified in the past calendar ( 00:00:00 UTC 1 January 2011 to 23:59:59 31 December 2011.) We also will only be counting articles recorded as part of a drive, just to make life easier. For these year-end awards, we'll be handing out a new barnstar. The design is inspired by the old Superior Scribe award. You can see the rough draft of these barnstars here: 1 2 3 and 4. If you have any strong feelings about any of these, please leave a note here. Otherwise I'll make an executive decision and use my favorite (ha, ha! Power!). --Kerowyn Leave a note 03:08, 25 November 2011 (UTC) Next drive? When will the next drive start? I can't wait to obliterate the backlog! Cheers! --Sp33dyphil © • © 08:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC) The next drive has been setup by Kerowyn. Invites are in the mail :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 21:08, 30 November 2011 (UTC) Taskforce I'd like to set up a taskforce for fictional lists. How do I go about this? Thanks.. Ncboy2010 (talk) 20:53, 23 December 2011 (UTC) Are you talking about wikifying fictional lists, or just maintaining them in general? If the former, then I don't think the WWF really does taskforces that specific. If the latter, which I think is more likely, then WP:WPLISTS is a better place to ask. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 03:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC) Drive December 2011 It is 19 days to closed the December 2011 drive, but the awards are not distribute, can anyone know about that? And what about the next drive?-- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 17:58, 19 January 2012 (UTC) Ah, I forgot that this is the page to post that problem on. Yes, I must second this concern. If no one else who earned one or more awards during the drive received any, and if it's alright with the general rules of the drive, I'd be willing to help distribute them. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 11:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC) Oh. Sh!t. (More bleeps). I am incredibly sorry that this has happened folks. Ugh...anyway, I'm having a monster week school-wise, so I really can't do this atm. WW, if you can, I'll owe you a few. The awards are here, and I'd like to think its pretty easy to figure out. Note that User:Miniapolis is the only editor who should get a {{The Greater Working Wikifier's Barnstar}} for wordcount...I was the only other editor to even submit for that, so don't bother about a runner up. Just leave a generic message with the barnstars, and if you do mention the delay, tell them to come talk to me. If not, I'll do this Monday...I'm simply swamped until then. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC) No problem! I'll get onto it in a few minutes! :) Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC) Thanks dudes, I thought I should remember you to do this. It's all right.-- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 04:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC) All done! :) Wilhelmina Will (talk) 08:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC) Thank you much Wilhelmina! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC) Next drive? Does anyone know, when the next drive will start?-- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 19:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC) In a few hours. I am actually in the process of setting up the drive pages. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 19:31, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Hey!? That's news ;) BTW MDB didn't drop by… shall i make a message for him? benzband (talk) 19:39, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Here's last months, and if you can copy everything to Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Drives/Invite/Jan12 and update the text/links, that would be great. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 19:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Y Done, but at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Drives/Invite/Feb12, per Dec11 Nov11 Oct11 Sep11 Aug11 Jul11 Jun11, etc. - benzband (talk) 19:56, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Facepalm My mistake...thanks! All but the log page are done (1300 goal sound good?) and then I'll get to creating the participant list and sending it to MDB. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:01, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Ok, good luck! (and if there's anything i can do to help just give a shout :) benzband (talk) 20:04, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Well, next time you can sign your name correctly. ;-) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:05, 31 January 2012 (UTC) ah ok; i presumed the signature was to do with the original developing of the template (have also updated the goal to 1300) benzband (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Nah, that's the first one. WC will always be on there, and although I really don't know why we have that "adapting" line...eh, doesn't matter. Anyway, perfect. Thanks :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:17, 31 January 2012 (UTC) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ All done! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:29, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Yay! benzband (talk) 21:01, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Thanks buddies (Nolelover and Benzband), good luck! -- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 08:51, 1 February 2012 (UTC) Most articles on first day Hello coordinators! I have logged in 40 articles on the first day of February 2012. I think I should inform you.-- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 17:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC) LOL benzband (talk) 19:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC) And I think I should inform you that since February first is not yet over, you can keep going (or someone else can do 41). ;-) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 19:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC) LOL :) - Actually I know that no one will do 41 articles in remaining one hour and one minute, so I inform you, cheers!-- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 04:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC) Hahaha, I find your opening comment very hilarious. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 04:28, 2 February 2012 (UTC) Hmmm, obviously it is.-- Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 08:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC) Looking for an editor to help me with an article Hi there, I was advised by an administrator to post here as I am looking for someone to help me with editing an article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sportsfan5000/Adam_Windsor It had a speedy deletion a while ago, since then however I have cited and referenced a lot of it. I just need help with any formatting and anything else a good editor can see. I am honestly not that great with using wikipedia so any and all help that I can get I would be really appreciative of. I also will need help from an administrator with moving the article back into the article space and basically approving it from what I understand so that it is not deleted again. Please let me know if anyone can help me or if anyone knows of someone that would be interested in finalizing this project. Thank you in advance! Sportsfan5000 (talk) 22:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC) After a quick glance, there's a couple things I've noticed. The main is that you seem to repeat or split up biographical information. For example, "Professional wrestling career" and "Recent years and other notable achievements" have much of the same material, and probably should be merged and placed at the beginning of the article. Any personal stuff would go into "personal life", and that usually ends up at the bottom or after all of the wrestling text. There aren't many admins that hang around here, so you'll hafta go somewhere else for that (you can add the template {{admin help}} to your talk page, and one will come by), but there are a few things I could tell you that would make your submission much more likely to be accepted. First, remove all the wrestling moves unless you can verify that he is well-known for one or two. Same with the current personal life section. Most of it is either referenced and unnecessary ("Certified Paramedic" and "Registered EMT") or belongs elsewhere (family matters, if sourced, should probably be in the biography). Last, try not to write it like an essay or a friendly report ("Even though Adam now enjoys a much more quiet life with his wife and children at home, and enjoys not being on the road wrestling or on his phone 24/7 with his businesses, he still likes to work on fun and interesting projects that not only bring jobs to the community that he lives in, but also expands what his town has to offer." That's just weird, coming from an encyclopedia). Nolelover Talk·Contribs 23:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC) getting a bug in the random article section I am getting the following error when I click on randomly select an article - " Warning: There were MySQL errors at Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:47:38 +0000. It is possible that this tool won't work right now. If this error message persists please file a bug.". I am not getting any article. Is there any alternate source for these aricles?--Wikishagnik (talk) 17:50, 8 February 2012 (UTC) Here is the comprehensive list, divided into months: Category:Articles that need to be wikified. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 18:01, 8 February 2012 (UTC) Noted here. Last time this happened it was fixed soon enough after notification. Cheers, benzband (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC) Fixed, see my meta talk page for details. --Erwin (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2012 (UTC)