Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women's History/Archive 8
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- 1 MaryEDignam.jpg
- 2 Looking for collaborators to take Lucy Stone to FA
- 3 AWLA 70th Anniversary Brooch.jpg
- 4 DNB missing women list
- 5 President Geun-hye.png
- 6 Category:Women's history
- 7 Nomination of List of songs by Lata Mangeshkar for deletion
- 8 Eleanor of Brittany: STUB-class?!
- 9 Diversity Conference - invitation
- 10 Help expand The Pink Lady for a DYK !
- 11 You're Invited: Ada Lovelace Day Women-in-STEM Edit-a-thon
- 12 Eleanor of Guelders.jpg
- 13 Discussion of terminology ("survivor", "victim", etc) at Rape culture
- 14 Proposal
- 15 History of women in Puerto Rico
- 16 Good article reassessment for Hope Solo article
- 17 Women in Science Oxford Editathon: Ada Lovelace Day 2013
- 18 Nomination of Beatrice Kozera for deletion
- 19 Gillian Sheen
- 20 Lucy Higgs Nichols
- 21 Inclusion criteria question
- 22 War rape
- 23 Firewoman listed at Redirects for discussion
- 24 Wonder Women of Natural History: Wikipedia editathon at London Zoo, January 18th
- 25 Sati (practice)
- 26 Underrepresentation
- 27 Adrianne Wadewitz deletion discussion notice
- 28 Elizabeth of Bosnia FAC
- 29 WP Countering Systemic Bias in the Signpost
- 30 "Mark Read"
- 31 Invitation to User Study
- 32 Skepchickal
- 33 The Impact of Wikipedia by Adrianne Wadewitz
- 34 Popular pages tool update
- 35 Toni Tennille
- 36 Dancers for Women's History Month
- 37 AfC submission - 05/03
- 38 New article = Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence
- 39 Adrianne Wadewitz for Peer review
- 40 Any opinions on renaming the Miss Frank E. Buttolph article ?
- 41 Founder of the world's first academic degree-granting institution of higher education
- 42 Interested in collaborating on a quick DYK article?
- 43 Hillary Rodham Clinton move request
- 44 Silent Spring peer review
- 45 List of female prime ministers
- 46 Invitation to Participate in a User Study - Final Reminder
- 47 School and university projects
- 48 "Merging" (aka Deleting) categories
- 49 Discussion at Talk:Afghan_Girl#Requested_move_22_April_2014
- 50 Move request at Talk:Sarah Jane Brown
- 51 Attribution of a really strange picture
- 52 Big Berks edit-a-thon - Toronto - May 24 2014
- 53 RfC on Angela Merkel
- 54 Bikini on peer review
- 55 Leaflet For Wikiproject Women's History At Wikimania 2014
- 56 Womanizer
- 57 Americans
- 58 List of American women's firsts
Looking for collaborators to take Lucy Stone to FA
The Lucy Stone biography has been a Good Article for more than three years, but until recently I have been stumped in the matter of how to make it a Featured Article. The recent development is a deep interest in article improvement shown by the new editor User:Jmillionjpostma, who says "You can tell by my user name that I am the author" of the Joelle Million book, 'Woman's Voice, Woman's Place: Lucy Stone and the Birth of the Woman's Rights Movement. So right now the article has the interest of a standout author on the subject, and I think the time is ripe for reworking the article to make it FA.
I don't think the transition will be easy, because I consider the GA-level article lacking in the matter of "engaging, even brilliant" prose. Its basic layout could be improved, too. The FA collaborator should check out the Million book, the correspondence book Friends and Sisters: Letters between Lucy Stone and Antoinette Brown Blackwell, 1846-93, and also the Kerr book Lucy Stone: Speaking Out for Equality. Any takers? Binksternet (talk) 14:41, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
AWLA 70th Anniversary Brooch.jpg
DNB missing women list
Of interest to this project, I think. Wikipedia:WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography/Missing women for the biographies of women in the early editions of the Dictionary of National Biography, and believed to be missing here. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- thanks to people who've already jumped on this... 5 down, 192 to go! Dsp13 (talk) 14:59, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I thought folks might like to know about the new category I just created, Category:Women's history. I was quite surprised to discover that it didn't already exist as a category in its own right -- especially considering that there is a Women's History Wikiproject! I suppose the reason for that is probably because we already have Category:Women in history. But of course, that doesn't eliminate the need for a category about the field of Women's history. I just hope we can keep it focused on articles pertaining to that, rather than the broader subject of Women in history. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 07:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of List of songs by Lata Mangeshkar for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of songs by Lata Mangeshkar is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. Djembayz (talk) 23:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Eleanor of Brittany: STUB-class?!
- Then why don't you re-evaluate it? This particular article was auto-assessed and bots are not particularly reliable in reflecting changes and/or improvements. But as an wiki-editor you can offer your own assessment. Dimadick (talk) 12:13, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- Upgraded to C. Feel free to re-eval as necessary czar · · 15:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Diversity Conference - invitation
On the 9th and 10th of November 2013 Wikimedia Deutschland, together with Wikimedia UK, Nederlands and the Foundation, is organizing a Conference to discuss Diversity in Wikipedia and its sister projects. You find more information on this meta page here.
The registration and the Call for Papers is now open. We are looking forward to your registration!
Help expand The Pink Lady for a DYK !
You're Invited: Ada Lovelace Day Women-in-STEM Edit-a-thon
|Ada Lovelace Day Women-in-STEM Edit-a-thon - You are invited!
|Now in its fifth year, Ada Lovelace Day is an international celebration of women in science, technology, engineering, mathematics (STEM). Please join us in editing Wikipedia entries on women who have made significant contributions to the STEM fields. Register to attend in person at Brown University (Providence, RI), or sign up to participate remotely. Visit our event page for more information.
Girona7 (talk) 03:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Eleanor of Guelders.jpg
Discussion of terminology ("survivor", "victim", etc) at Rape culture
There is a discussion about the use of terminology at Rape culture that has, I think, larger implications for how rape is discussed on-wiki. The dispute revolves around these edits. Additional input would be welcome. Posting here because the article is noted on its talk page as being of interest to this WIkiProject. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 10:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, I just wanted to let you know about a proposal I've put up on Meta. I'm currently piloting a project at my university, Loyola University Chicago, to increase participation among women students and improve content on women scientists. I want to learn from this model and create a template that can be used at other institutions and conduct outreach and testing in the Chicago area. I've put in an IEG proposal here and I would love to have some feedback from the members of the project! (And my apologies if you've already seen this message.) Keilana|Parlez ici 03:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
History of women in Puerto Rico
We need your help in peer reviewing the article History of women in Puerto Rico. Please join us at:
Good article reassessment for Hope Solo article
Hope Solo, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hmlarson (talk) 06:00, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Women in Science Oxford Editathon: Ada Lovelace Day 2013
Hello all. Among the crop of upcoming Women in Science events is this one in Oxford, UK, happening with the support of the Bodleian libraries, some departments and units of Oxford University, and the Wikimedia UK/Jisc collaboration. As with similar events, both in-person and online participation are encouraged. This follows from an Ada Lovelace Day event last year which was very popular: see the event page for more details.
- It was great fun and in a short time there was a lot done and, it seems, some lasting enthusiasm created. Outcomes here. MartinPoulter Jisc (talk) 11:26, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Nomination of Beatrice Kozera for deletion
Beatrice Kozera was the Mexican farmworker girlfriend who inspired one of Jack Kerouac's characters, and the subject of a film and an upcoming fictional biography. Djembayz (talk) 00:01, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Apparently she fenced in the men's foil in the 1952 Olympics and then won gold at the 1956 Women's Foil. The earliest known transgender Olympian? No sloppy editing because no one really cares about women at Wikipedia188.8.131.52 (talk) 07:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
New article on an American Civil War nurse who was made an honorary member of the Grand Army of the Republic – needs clean up and better referencing. Plenty of sources are listed but there are very few inline citations, and most of those are bare URLS. Voceditenore (talk) 13:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Inclusion criteria question
Would the Abby Wambach article fall withing the confines of this project? In my opinion, she's helped break down barriers for women in football/soccer and sports and would meet the inclusion criteria. Curious about other's opinions? Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Opinions about inclusion criteria are also sought here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Opinion_sought. XOttawahitech (talk) 00:19, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Hmlarson: Here's the inclusion criteria from the front page:
A biography that has met the notability requirements outlined at WP:BIO may be included within this project if it meets one of the following criteria.
I was wondering if anyone would like to work on this article? In about a month, when the semester ends, I can work on this (and I have plenty of resources) but would like some help in sorting it out for WP.Lihaas (talk) 19:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Firewoman listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Firewoman. Since you had some involvement with the Firewoman redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). -- 184.108.40.206 (talk) 11:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Wonder Women of Natural History: Wikipedia editathon at London Zoo, January 18th
I'm organising a Wikipedia editathon at London Zoo on January the 18th, please have a look and come or join in online if you'd like. More info here.
Issue originally led by a Wikipedia:Single-purpose account, and later leading 2 users to conflict with the changes or repeating his version. I don't find any serious reason the three following statements that have been removed from the page. On lead they were:-
"Hindu texts forbid its practice in Kali yuga, the current age.", , . "But the practice was revived most notably during the Muslim invasions of India.", , (cites multiple sources), 
And the next one on "Muslim period":-
During the Islamic conquest of Indian subcontinent, sati practice revived, as rapes and abductions were commonly carried out by the Islamic invaders.(As per sources above) - Other atrocities by Islamic invaders included the enslavement, Harem, etc."sati"
Hi folks - I was thinking of starting an article about underrepresented people and how their underrepresentation can distort people's view of the world. Women are one group (of course), but there are others (for example: arguments have been made on how WP does not provide a balanced picture of Indigenous peoples of the Americas, and under-representation of the poor has also been an issue on WP). My question is what to call this. My first thought was disfranchisement, but that article talks mostly about political issues, not social ones. Can anyone offer ideas? Thanks in advance. -- kosboot (talk) 16:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'd start with what the RS say, so unless you can find books and sources that cover the idea of "underrepresentation" as a whole, it would be best to cover the topic relationally within individual articles (e.g., women/minorities in business, women/minorities in political representation) mimicking its coverage in said sources. I can't say I've looked especially hard, but I'm not finding much on underrepresentation as a singular concept. Now as for the "on Wikipedia" examples you mentioned, I'd build out summary-style from Wikipedia#Coverage_of_topics_and_systemic_bias and Criticism_of_Wikipedia#Systemic_bias_in_coverage (which contains a "Gender bias" subsection). If the subject grows too big for the section, break it out into its own article. 18:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Adrianne Wadewitz deletion discussion notice
There is an ongoing deletion discussion taking place now about whether or not to have a biographical article about Adrianne Wadewitz on Wikipedia.
The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrianne Wadewitz.
Elizabeth of Bosnia FAC
Last month I nominated the article about the Hungarian queen Elizabeth of Bosnia for FA status, but it has not attracted enough reviewers yet. Elizabeth, who ended up losing her head, governed Hungary during one of the most unstable periods in its history - unstable mostly because she and the monarch for whom she ruled were women. The article (rated GA) is of great interest to WikiProject Women's History, and I would be very grateful if a member of this WikiProject commented on the nomination. Surtsicna (talk) 13:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
WP Countering Systemic Bias in the Signpost
- The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Countering Systemic Bias for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 00:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Invitation to User Study
Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 20:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC).
- File:Wikimania 2012 portrait 102 by ragesoss, 2012-07-13.JPG
- Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Skepchickal
I've nominated this photograph by Ragesoss, for Featured Picture consideration.
Discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Skepchickal.
The Impact of Wikipedia by Adrianne Wadewitz
- File:The Impact of Wikipedia Adrianne Wadewitz.webm by Vgrigas
- Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Impact of Wikipedia by Adrianne Wadewitz
I've nominated the video file File:The Impact of Wikipedia Adrianne Wadewitz.webm by Vgrigas for Featured Picture candidacy.
The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Impact of Wikipedia by Adrianne Wadewitz.
Thank you for your time,
Popular pages tool update
As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).
Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.
If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:34, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering if somebody from WikiProject Women's History could take a look at Toni Tennille. I've made a few suggestions for improving the article on its talk page (here, here and here, but have yet to get any feedback. Personally, I think the page layout is poor and should be reorganized. It seems that people are just adding sections without considering the overall layout of the article. Since it is subject to WP:BLP and is listed as an "article of interest" to your project, I thought I'd ask for feedback here as well. Thanks in advance - Marchjuly (talk) 05:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Dancers for Women's History Month
In connection with Women's History Month 2014, some of us have been concentrating on improving the coverage of female dancers. In addition to creating a List of female dancers on a country-by-country basis, we have also been writing a fair number of new biographies, many of which relate to women of historical interest. We would appreciate any support the Women's History project can provide, including improvements to existing articles and the creation of new ones.--Ipigott (talk) 09:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
AfC submission - 05/03
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Women in the U.S. Labor Force after World War II through 1950. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 00:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
New article = Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence
I've created a new article on the book, Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence.
Help with researching additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at Talk:Cutting the Mustard: Affirmative Action and the Nature of Excellence.
Adrianne Wadewitz for Peer review
I've nominated the article Adrianne Wadewitz for Peer review.
Discussion is at the peer review subpage, at Wikipedia:Peer review/Adrianne Wadewitz/archive1.
Thank you for your time,
Any opinions on renaming the Miss Frank E. Buttolph article ?
Founder of the world's first academic degree-granting institution of higher education
Fatima al-Fihri says she is "the founder of the world's first academic degree-granting institution of higher education", but the article is assessed as Low-importance by this wikiproject. Just curious. XOttawahitech (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Interested in collaborating on a quick DYK article?
Greetings! A proposal has been made at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton#Requested move 8 to change the title of the article, Hillary Rodham Clinton to Hillary Clinton. This notification is provided because this article is listed as being of interest to this project. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Silent Spring peer review
- It seems to me that List of elected or appointed female heads of government already contains everything as a table. I cannot see the List of female prime ministers provides any additional information. It therefore seems to me to be a candidate for deletion.--Ipigott (talk) 10:39, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Invitation to Participate in a User Study - Final Reminder
Would you be interested in participating in a user study of a new tool to support editor involvement in WikiProjects? We are a team at the University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within WikiProjects, and we are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visual exploration tool for Wikipedia. Given your interest in this Wikiproject, we would welcome your participation in our study. To participate, you will be given access to our new visualization tool and will interact with us via Google Hangout so that we can solicit your thoughts about the tool. To use Google Hangout, you will need a laptop/desktop, a web camera, and a speaker for video communication during the study. We will provide you with an Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 17:02, 17 April 2014 (UTC).
School and university projects
Hi, folks. I've recently come across a few articles edited as part of school and university projects, and I notice that the students tend to consider the subject's website as a convenient source of information. This can result in a certain degree of plagiarism and addition of promotional language, among other problems. I hate to discourage people from working in Wikipedia, but this is difficult to sort out after the fact. Are there guidelines posted on how to work on these projects? Pkeets (talk) 16:14, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Nevermind. I found the Education page and posted my question there. However, this seems to be an issue for women's history articles, as sponsored sessions and edit-a-thons have been recently promoted in order to increase the coverage of women in Wikipedia. Are there any suggestions about how to mitigate the damage? If so, you might want to join the discussion here.Pkeets (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
"Merging" (aka Deleting) categories
There is a discussion on merging Category:American women philosophers, Category:Asian American philosophers and Category:African-American philosophers into Category:American philosophers which would, in fact, lead to their deletion. If you would like to weigh in on the conversation (pro or con), go to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 April 17#Category:American (x) philosophers. Liz Read! Talk! 21:03, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Afghan_Girl#Requested_move_22_April_2014
Move request at Talk:Sarah Jane Brown
Attribution of a really strange picture
Hi all, I created Anna Wintour Costume Center because it didn't have one yet and Michelle Obama is going to do the opening. To my surprise I could not find any pics to illustrate it with, even though the center combines collections of the MET and the Brooklyn museum (only their American collection though). Fishing through the collections of the Brooklyn museum for anything regarding fashion, I found this odd set of pics with a "basketry hat" from the congo. Apparently they have taken pictures of their objects to supplement old pictures demonstrating how to wear them. Presumeably this object will NOT end up in the Wintour center because it's from the African collection, but the woman looks like she walked straight out the Vogue office to have her picture taken. Any ideas on how to find out more about her? I assume she is a curator of the Brooklyn museum's African collection. Any ideas? Jane (talk) 07:30, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Big Berks edit-a-thon - Toronto - May 24 2014
The Berkshire Conference on the History of Women ("Big Berks") is meeting in Toronto on May 22-25. The organizers welcome all WP:WMNHIST contributors for an edit-a-thon on May 24, 2-5 pm, on the campus of the University of Toronto. Remote participation is also welcome. For more information and to add your name to the list of attendees, see Wikipedia:Meetup/Toronto/BerksConference2014Edit-a-thon. ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic | talk | contribs) 22:26, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
...regarding the inclusion of a photograph of her grandfather in the article . Posting the notification here because the article is within the scope of this project. Participation welcome.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:18, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Bikini, one of the oldest articles of this project has gone into a peer review here. It was created on Novemeber 1, 2001, One day after Japan. That was before Abraham Lincoln (Nov 4), France (Nov 4) and California (Nov 17) were created on Wikipedia. (courtesy: TonyTheTiger) It also is a highly viewed article. If you search for Bikini using google the first return is this article. Page visitation reached its highest in 2011, and the highest number of visitors come from India, Mexico and Spain.
A lot of work has gone into the article. It kept expanding and eventually three new spin-off articles were created - History of the bikini (a good article), Bikini in popular culture and Bikini variants. The popular culture article split its own spin-offs into Category:Individual bikinis. The variants article in turn split into specific articles for Monokini and Tankini. Work has gone into other related article as well, like Thong (clothing) and Bikini waxing.
Leaflet For Wikiproject Women's History At Wikimania 2014
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Adikhajuria (talk) 11:18, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
At the top of this article there is a gallery with images of 24 Americans. Only one woman, Marilyn Monroe. Input would be useful at Talk:Americans#Women?. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:54, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Is the definition of a "Women's First" only something that a man has done first?
Maybe people can provide some guidance about the mass deletions of women's firsts, here.  __ E L A Q U E A T E 17:12, 29 May 2014 (UTC)