User talk:SustainaBro2017

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Hello, Davidhar, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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WP:COI

Can you please declare what, if any connection you have to University at Buffalo, The State University of New York ? Mtking ^(edits) 19:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

None, why?

Funny that, your uploads to commons would seam to say other wise. Mtking ^(edits) 21:28, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I've taken pictures for UB, I don't see that as a conflict of interest.

You claim to be a student Mtking ^(edits) 00:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Why do you need to know these things? I don't have to reveal any personal information if I don't want to.

If you are a student, ex-student, or possible future student that gives you a clear conflict of interest and you should keep well clear of the article. Mtking ^(edits) 01:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense. If he has a conflict of interest then he should certainly be careful in editing the article but that is no reason to "keep well clear of the article." The very link you used for this section - WP:COI - says as much.

With that said, it would be good if you were clear about any potential or real conflicts of interest, David. Transparency is extremely important in this large and diverse community of people because we rarely meet and have to be very intentional about building and maintaining trust. ElKevbo (talk) 03:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hello, I'm Hjarvis. I work in UB's marketing office, and can authoritatively state that "Buffalo University" is not our name [1], nor does it show up commonly (if ever) in search returns or in casual conversation. There are many colleges and universities in Buffalo and that name just doesn't make any sense. Not trying to provoke or prolong an edit war, but I am also puzzled why anyone ever suggested it belonged on the page. Please help keep it off the page -- it's just wrong. Thanks! Hjarvis (talk) 16:53, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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WP:3RR

You should be aware of the three revert rule, you have breached it on University at Buffalo, The State University of New York and request that you revet your last edits to this version, thus avoiding a report. Mtking ^(edits) 03:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I was editing my own reverts.

Your submission at Articles for creation

You recently made a submission to Articles for Creation. Your article has been reviewed and because some issues were found, it could not be accepted in its current form; it is now located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/UB Blue. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. Feel free to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Mtking ^(edits) 20:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

WP only has articles on notable subjects, to test if a topic is notable, there is a guideline, in it, it sates that "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article". So unless you can show that "UB Blue" as a colour has received coverage outside of the Uni, then as a subject it does not warrant a stand-alone article. Mtking ^(edits) 21:14, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Parkerhallubsouthcampus.jpg

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File permission problem with File:Crosbyhallubsouthcampus.jpg

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Copyright

Please do not waste your time and ours uploading images with incompatible licences. As to buildings: go out and take your own photographs and upload them to the Commons. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I would like to add to that, your constant uploads both here and at Commons of copyright images so as to beautify the article of the uni you attend (University at Buffalo, The State University of New York) are disruptive and if they continue are very likely to see you blocked. Should you wish to follow the advice of RHaworth and upload photos taken yourself, please make sure that they are relevant to the article and that you check at the talk page first that a clear consensus exists for there use BEFORE adding them to the article. Mtking ^(edits) 19:31, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I actually have taken my own photos and have, in fact, placed them onto the page. They were taken off and deleted by Mtking for no apparent reason. And this time, it was a mistake. I thought all rights reserved meant that I can put them up. Simple misunderstanding. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidhar (talk • contribs) 22:07, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Clearly you have forgotten, they were deleted from Commons because they were marked copyright to the university they may have been taken by you, but you were acting for the university at the time. Mtking ^(edits) 08:14, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm actually not talking about those. I took pictures that were clearly MINE and placed them on the page in May of 2011. You not only took them off the page, but you deleted them without reason.

Seal vs Crest

I have restored the long-standing seal, as this change will result in the file File:University at Buffalo The State University of New York seal.png probably being deleted as an orphan fair use, this change needs to be agreed at the talk page. Mtking ^(edits) 22:21, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

You have no right to delete it. Go to the talk page on the UNIVERSITY. Please refrain from going to my own talk page.

I was taking the time to explain why I reverted your change, it is a long-standing WP policy to delete any copyright file that is not used on an article, so before a file which has been used since 2007 is deleted, it needs to be clear that there is consensus to change it. Mtking ^(edits) 22:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Official UB crest.jpg

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Your recent edits

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December 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on University at Buffalo, The State University of New York. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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You are edit warring over this, there is an ongoing talk page discussion about it, Please revert your last change. Mtking ^(edits) 02:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

And you are editing it without proper consent. Davidhar (talk) 02:36, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

The onus is on you to obtain consensus for your edit, you started that process by posting to the talk page, that needs to continue before you make the change. Mtking ^(edits) 02:39, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by "consent" ? Mtking ^(edits) 02:40, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Please can you answer this ? Mtking ^(edits) 22:09, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:University at buffalo crest.png

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University at Buffalo, The State University of New York - addition of the the crest.

The addition of the the crest as a stand alone image should be reverted, as it fails two parts of the WP:NFCC (3a, and 8. Please revert it and discuss it at the talk page. Mtking ^(edits) 21:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:COI @ University at Buffalo, The State University of New York

As you have a WP:COI with respect to University at Buffalo, The State University of New York, can you please propose any changes you wish to make, including adding any images, at the talk page first so it can be discussed before the change happens. Mtking ^(edits) 21:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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University at Buffalo College of Arts & Sciences

I noticed you created this article a few days ago; however it does not as yet appear to address the Wikipedia:College and university article guidelines, specifically how is it "especially notable or significant"; because if it is not, it should not have it's own article. Please try and avoid the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS arguments for why it should have it's own article. Mtking ^(edits) 23:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of University at Buffalo College of Arts & Sciences for deletion

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Response to your request for assistance

Hi, Davidhar, I merged the deleted article into the main article so all of that material would be preserved. My suggestion is that you familiarize yourself with the rules of notability and using references that establish notability. See here: Notability.

You are obviously under the microscope now so your best bet is to strictly adhere to the standards and if you need assistance you should ask for someone (more experienced than I am) to mentor or assist you. You can always ask for assistance here: Administrator's Noticeboard.

Good luck! - HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 22:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Happy new year!
	We wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year! Pass a Method talk 20:47, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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January 2012

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to State University of New York at Buffalo School of Dental Medicine, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. And also University at Buffalo School of Management Mtking ^(edits) 05:37, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Then please provide reasoning in the discussion talk page.Davidhar (talk) 05:43, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

It should be self evident if you actually read what the maintenance template says. Mtking ^(edits) 05:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

No, I know what it means. I meant, please tell me why you THINK it is an irrelevant article. Davidhar (talk) 14:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Adding indiscriminate images

Please see the talk page about indiscriminate images for the uni. Mtking ^(edits) 19:52, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Personal Notes

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Help in finding sources for University at Buffalo School of Management

I thought it might help, if I gave you some pointers to the types of sources that would be required to demonstrate that the School of Management meets the criteria for it's own article.

First they need to be from a independent source, so that would not be anything from :

1. the School of Management
2. the University including the University Historical Society ;
3. the State University of New York (SUNY);
4. the Governor of New York;
5. any branch of the Government of New York;

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Hope this helps.

Mtking ^(edits) 21:25, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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February 2012

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, as you did at Talk:University at Buffalo, The State University of New York, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Mtking ^(edits) 05:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

University at Buffalo, The State University of New York

As you know WP is an Encyclopedia and not the schools prospectus, since you are a student of the uni, please seek consensus on the talk page before adding any more images. Mtking ^(edits) 08:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi MTKing, please see my uploaded pictures on the talk page and please contribute your thoughts on them. Davidhar (talk) 17:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

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Conflict re: Maintaining Bill Greiner's Photo in Notable Alumni/Faculty Section in UB Article

University at Buffalo & William Greiner

Please do not re-edit over and over the University at Buffalo alumni sub-section, including replacing Terry Gross with Bill Greiner. Your recent edits both on the University's wikipedia and on William Greiner's suggests a conflict of interest and I would advise to not edit wikipedia pages with respect to Bill Greiner if this is the case (per WP codes). Terry Gross, the original alumnus who was replaced by Bill is surely more notable on the national and international levels. Thank you. Davidhar (talk) 04:01, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Davidhar, You are mistaken. First of all, you do not own any articles, nor have any authority in telling me what to do or how to edit. Second of all, I did not replace Terry Gross, nor did I realize or know that Terry Gross had been in that section. Terry Gross had already been deleted by someone else when I added Bill Greiner, and then re-added him again after you deleted him. I believe it is you who are in conflict. Please do not jump to conclusions before going back through all the edits to confirm this. Once you do that, you will see that I did not "replace" anyone. I only added Bill, and it was you who deleted him. Why did you delete him, reverting my two edits/additions of him? This is something that should be discussed on the talk page. The former president of UB who worked there for 42 years, who was president for 13 years, who made many advancements for the university, and who brought the school back to Division I, I believe is noteworthy enough for his photograph to be reflected in the notable alumni and faculty section. I am moving this discussion to the article's talk page. Daniellagreen (talk) 14:48, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Davidhar, Again, I think your assumptions with regard to what I had attempted to achieve in contributing my images to the article are incorrect. Instead of complaining and continuing an argument that is going nowhere, I challenge you to take and upload photos of some UB sports teams to the athletics section of this article. My perspective is that some photos are better than none. Having not had any photos in that section prior to my contributions creates a reflection on the article that athletics are unimportant at UB. While most of my text contributions to this overall article have been maintained, you deleted 2/3 of my photo contributions. So, I challenge you to replace them with updated and current photos since I am on the other side of the country and it would not be feasible for me to do so, otherwise I would. You have taken a leadership role with this article, and I challenge you to uphold it by improving and enhancing it with more updated photos than what I contributed. If you do not, then it would be obvious that a conflict about it may be preferred by you rather than compromise. Having had no images in the athletics section, in my opinion and prior to my image contributions, made it a section that was lacking in quality and which needed enhancement. That is where I'm coming from, and I challenge you to take charge and make it better. Daniellagreen (talk) 20:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks again for starting the merge of campuses. I'm not up to the job, but I totally agree it's worth doing. It would need a plan, and I'd hate to see someone's hard work get deleted by some other editor who complained because there wasn't consensus from the start. I'd try the university work group on the article's talk page. Someone there may have good advise. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi again. Can I suggest you propose a merger on the U of T article? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I stated in the talk that I've rescinded my proposition to form a merger. Instead, I'd like to keep the UTM and UTSC campus articles, in addition to revising the U of T article to represent the entire University. At present, the wikipedia leaves out roughly half of the entire U of T population...and that's inaccurate and inappropriate by wikipedia standards. While the U of T isn't a University system (like I've said repeatedly), even if it were treated as a university system, all university systems have one single comprehensive article (University of London, University of Massachusetts, State University of New York, University of California, etc.). Do you see my point? Davidhar (talk) 04:52, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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Why are you removing any mention of other names currently used, names formerly used, or abbreviations used in the very article you are editing? In your most recent edit, you removed this sentence: "It is commonly referred to as the University at Buffalo (abbreviated UB) and was formerly known as the University of Buffalo." Not only does that remove an abbreviation used throughout the university's documents, other reliable sources, and the article itself but it also removes a historical name that is detailed in the article. More confusing is that you removed that sentence while using the edit summary "the 'University at Buffalo' name is still commonly used, bring it up in the talk if you still have issue. You're promoting an edit war." which is exactly what the sentence says!

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First of all, you edited the page using the title "Buffalo University, The State University of New York at Buffalo"....show me a source that says that...cuz in my view, that is the most idiotic and redundant name ever created for a university, and as a student, have never seen that in any publication, document, apparel, etc. Secondly, the differentiation between the "University at Buffalo" and the "University of Buffalo" is marginal at best. Stating the difference, in my opinion, is not needed and is again redundant. This is my opinion of course. For your sake however, you edited the first sentecne without consensus from wikipedia editors beforehand. And that's the main problem I have with your edits. Davidhar (talk) 19:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

You haven't explained why your actions and your stated reasons are in direct contradiction. I didn't name the article or the university (which does appear to have that as its full, legal name whether you've heard of it or not). And we don't require editors to get consensus before making edits.

I'll take this to the article's Talk page where you can explain to everyone why you think the lead of this article shouldn't introduce the prominent alternate names of this subject, its prominent historic name, and the abbreviation used throughout the article. ElKevbo (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Please do. Davidhar (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Let me throw my two cents in. As an employee of the university system, I was "strongly encouraged" to use "University AT Buffalo", since it's the State University of New York AT Buffalo. Buffalo does not have a university of it's own. The use "of" and "at" have completely different meanings last I checked. Here's my nickel to including "at" as a current usage, and "of" as a previous use, which is the way I've understood it since I was informed of the correct usage of University "at" Buffalo.

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Ok, someone's adding more common names again for UB. They wrote that "Other names like 'Buffalo University', 'UBuffalo' and 'UBuff' are also commonly seen." This is not true. "University OF Buffalo" is mistakenly used... that's the only common name. We DO use a hash tag of UBuffalo... but not in normal human speech. Since Buffalo has several universities, 'Buffalo University' is NOT misapplied, and I have never heard anyone refer to UBuff. Someone is making those up. Can you help..? Or advise what else we can do to reign this nonsense in..? Thanks. Hjarvis (talk) 15:03, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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