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Archived, too much nonsense lately, start a new section for new business please. He iro 22:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

im not spam

Sorry for adding my web address the first time, but i am not a spammer. I have won first and second place a Southeastern indian art festival held by the Chickasaw nation. I just had my southeastern art displayed at the world creativity forum in Oklahoma City on the 15 of this month, & I'm about to have my work put up at American Indian Cultural Center Museum. I have just as much right to put my name up there with Dan Townsend or the rest of those guys, I am NOT A CHINSY SPAMMER!!!!!!!!! DarthVoltron (talk) 06:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Responded at their user talk page here He iro 12:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your removal of advice to another editor to prevent their time being wasted

You removed my advice to another editor here under the guise of "same reasons as the previous editor" which were "personal attacks, active discouragement of consensus-building" these were neither personal attacks nor discouragement for consensus building. The editor who made that revert is unable to show evidence of "scientific investigations" (per verifiability policy note two) yet insists on his wording for that article, it is he that needs advice on consensus building - I have been main editor involved in the creation of two featured articles and multiple DYKs and know how to play nice. Since you appear to support Ronz's approach can you show me evidence in the sources provided of any scientific investigations that have taken place there or are you just drive-by policing of what you think is naughty stuff?--163.1.147.64 (talk) 09:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page isn't a forum to spout rhetoric and hyperbole, bring reliable sources for the information you wish to have included in the article, and quit worrying about the "fringe police". If your sources are reliable, the info will get included in the article. But the way you're headed with your last few posts, I see an ANI report in your future. He iro 09:28, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're not seeing what's going on. A talk page is the place to ask another editor that has reverted one's edits, and in doing so replaces the improvement with the previous, false, synthesis of the sources to show/quote from the sources to support their claim/edit. The editor in question has failed to do this and using obfuscations of non-policy (such as WP:FRINGE) insists on their version being correct. I used the page for this purpose (see the section entitled "scientific investigations") and got nowhere so I gave up on the page. That the same editor that prevented me from improving the page also removes my warning to avoid wasting time is no suprise to me. If you're at all interested, the current version still claims that scientific investigations have taken place (which you can check yourself cannot be backed up by the sources provided) and is patently flawed. I wish for no information to be included as your reply suggests - I only wish that the sources be not misreprented and state plainly that others who also want this will likely be wasting their time. Thanks for polite reply anyway.--163.1.147.64 (talk) 10:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Hi, I think I'll back off the Man discussion. If you think I am needed please feel free to ping me. I was trying to get discussions there productive and I think I did this so it's time for me to back out and let you and the other regular editors of this article to continue improving the page. Oh and I did ask DavidOaks to rejoin the discussion. I didn't know of anyone else to inform that wasn't a sock puppet. I got to this article through the AN/i complaint so I am not clear on who the regular editors are. I could take a look for them in the history but to be honest, I don't have the time or the will to do a search like this. Thank you very much for your polite conversations with me. It is so very much appreciated. Good luck with the collage and be well, --CrohnieGal^Talk 21:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I actually came there from the ANI thread as well, but got involved in the discussion concerning diversifying the infobox. I think your input has been good and have also enjoyed the conversation, hate to see you go actually. I am currently waiting for other opinions about the images I already found before going too much further. I think once images are decided on we can work out placement in the collage. I know several other editors are watching the page, but they may not be online yet today. He iro 21:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the previous discussion centered around the collage and invited the other 3 editors involved at the time. He iro 21:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) :::I will still keep this on my watch list and try to keep up with what is going on. I will be leaving my computer for the day so I am done for sure today. I can stick around though and give input to the images if I am wanted there. I figured by now I've worn out my welcome. :) Just let me know. You are doing great on picking the images. I do think though that the nude image needs to be enlarged a little bit and that the image of the man with the child should be included. Thank for your kind words. This conversation is a good time to stop for the day since today has been strange with some editors. Good, thanks for letting other editors know. I think doing this will help prevent problems later on, at least that is my hope. Happy editing, and talk sonn I'm sure, --CrohnieGal^Talk 21:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Archaic/Woodland period/Mississippian culture/ of North America

Sorry Heironymous Rowe - I was going by the information already in the articles when adding the cat. links. It was part of putting Category:Mounds in the United States and the state cats. from Category:Native American history by state on 'semi-orphan' articles for average readers, those not experts in the field-region as you are, to find/come upon these good articles. Ironically, re: your harsh criticism this way, 'Your' articles and wonderful colored maps-diagrams-art for the Gulf to Great Lakes indigenous cultures, traditions, groups, and sites inspired the effort (overdone I understand now, with apologies) to facilitate their find-ability.

Being unfamiliar with that region's prehistoric legacy, whenever any new article opened with one of your 'watercolor' maps I felt gratitude and could sense its place in time period and locale. Was just about to write 'thank you' for them on your talk page on 23rd when the your 2 posted on mine, so some cool down time, and the appreciation is sincerely shared now.---Best---Look2See1 t a l k → 23:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool I like alot of the stuff you are doing with the categories, you just seem to go a little overboard at times. Sorry if I come across too harsh at times, I dont mean to but can be a little too blunt at times. He iro

Talk:Megatrend_University#Copyvio

I have one question for you here: Talk:Megatrend_University#Copyvio. --S T E V A N ^(talk) 04:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

replied at the article talk. He iro 04:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved down. I just wanted to comment directly but I agree that wasn't a good idea. --S T E V A N ^(talk) 15:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Campus Ambassadors wanted at LSU

Hi! I'm leaving you this message because you are listed as a Wikipedian in Louisiana. The Wikipedia Ambassador Program is currently looking for Campus Ambassadors to help with Wikipedia assignments at Louisiana State University, which will be participating in the Public Policy Initiative for the Spring 2011 semester. The role of Campus Ambassadors will be to provide face-to-face training and support for students on Wikipedia-related skills (how to edit articles, how to add references, etc.). This includes doing in-class presentations, running workshops and labs, possibly holding office hours, and in general providing in-person mentorship for students.

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If you live near Baton Rouge and you are interested in being a Wikipedia Campus Ambassador, or know someone else from the area who might be, please email me or leave a message on my talk page.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gartner Site

Do you have information about the Gartner Site (National Register name "Gartner Mound and Village Site") near Chillicothe? I see that you included on the original version of {{Fort Ancient culture}}. All I have on it is a slight mention in one issue of the Ohio Archaeologist, published a few years ago. Nyttend (talk) 02:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If its still a redlink, I have nothing so far. I generated that list from a map I had found somewhere based on James Bennett Griffins work in I believe the 1940s. Seemed like a good way to make a start on fleshing out the Fort Ancient stuff, as most of the sites are probably notable if they were excavated and had information published about them. Might be hard to find anything, if nothing new has been done at that site since the 40s, all of the published stuff is more than likely out of print or hard to find. He iro 02:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, since you have access to a good university library, look for this book. Alot has been done since it was published, but I believe it was instrumental in defining Fort Ancient and should have stuff about alot of the more prominent sites. Its old and hard to find so have never ran across it yet myself, at least not cheap enough for me to invest in it. But your library may have a copy. He iro 02:32, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, they have three copies :-) If you ever need access to a book that's in the IU library system, go to iucat.iu.edu — anyone in the world can see what's in the collection, so you can see whether I'll be able to access the book; ask me and I'll try to see if I can help. They have lots of stuff dealing with Ohio archaeology; I'm learning so much on the subject here (despite not having much time for it; I wish that I had a lot more time for it) that I couldn't find back in Ohio. Nyttend (talk) 03:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right on! Look forward to see what you find out. Havent been extremely active lately, busy IRL with work, people keep offering me money for jobs, will probably slow down after Xmas tho. He iro 04:05, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see what you mean; I'm a grad student now (taking 12 credits, and full-time status for my school is just 9) and working 20 hours per week. Nyttend (talk) 04:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, my last project is due on Thursday morning; I'll try to see if I can look at this book after I get off work that evening. Feel free to pester me if you think I've forgotten :-) Nyttend (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No time to go to the library yesterday, but I'm there now, so I'll get the book before I leave. Do you want me to find something in it for you, or are you simply saying that I might find it useful for my own purposes? On an unrelated issue, I've created Category:Type sites; please feel free to take it to CFD if it's not helpful, or please feel free to help populate it if it is. Nyttend (talk) 23:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mississippian tags

Thanks Do you have any examples of mistagged talk pages? I'm removing these entries from my list. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thats the only one which has popped up on my watchlist so far, just thought I'd drop you a note and let you know. There is already a bug with that template and wikiproject, a bot tends to add that template to the talk page of every article created with Mississippian mentioned in it text somewhere, which can be frustrating lol. He iro 08:18, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How many templates?

I've worked on another supposedly Mississippian site in Ohio north of the Fort Ancient heartland: the Cary Village Site, a multi-component site near Columbus. My source says that it "has been occupied at various times by Paleo-Indian, Archaic, Woodland, and Mississippian cultures" — is this perhaps a northern outlier of the Fort Ancient people, or an Upper Mississippian village, or something else? Additionally, what culture navboxes (if any) should be applied to the article? The most significant component of the site is Hopewell, so I've added it to that navbox, but I'm not sure (1) whether that's a good idea, and (2) whether it should be included on any others. Nyttend (talk) 19:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by that location, there is no way it is Mississippian proper, but they may be meaning Fort Ancient or Upper Mississippian culture. Does your source give a date for that occupation? Anyway, just stick to the source for now til you find better info, only thing I could do is speculate, lol. He iro 20:06, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The source for that statement doesn't give any dates, unfortunately. The Ohio Historical Society's profile of the site gives dates of 999-500 BC, 499-1 BC, and 1-499 AD, but it doesn't break out the dates by culture. Nyttend (talk) 20:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, all of those dates are Early and Middle Woodland period, none are late enough to be Mississippian of any variety. Might just be best to leave out any mention of Mississippian, that source may not be reliable enough to use. Your call. He iro 21:07, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

However, the OHS website's profiles are subject to errors: the Lockington Covered Bridge burned in 1989, but the OHS says that it's still in existence. Even worse, Holy Rosary Catholic Church in St. Marys was demolished in 1978, one year before it was listed on the Register, but the profile thinks it's still standing. Nyttend (talk) 03:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Voytovych

Dear Heironymous Rowe. I know that Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion, I'm not Alexander Voytovych. I want to create multiple pages of contemporary Ukrainian art, becouse as there is no information about it on Wikipedia. Page about "Alexander Voytovych" is the first in this theme. If I am wrong about creating the page of person , please write my mistakes and I will correct.. Thank you. Julia --Artvoyt (talk) 22:15, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BC

The use of ce and bce is idiotic. It makes use of the Christian calendar yet to appease non Christians changes the terms around. Wikipedia has many moronic policies so I shouldn't be surprised to find another one. Cheers.--72.193.17.171 (talk) 07:27, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has those policies to keep editors with different preferences from constantly flipping them back and forth. If its too moronic for you, edit elsewhere, cheers!. He iro 15:00, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mapuche and the Spartans

In my contribution I did point out that this theory lacks any scientific support and I didn't put it in the chapter "origin" byt in a different chapter below the chapter "Mapuches in popular culture". But the fact is that this theory appears in many blogs and seminars in Greece as a real fact! (Look on google search for "Αραουκανοί" or "Lonko Kilapan"). It's something like a popular civil legend in Greece. It's a matter of objectivity to write about this theory even if it is in fact ridiculous... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georalex1 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I said at the article talk, find reliable citations to actual historians and scholars addressing this subject, somehow proving its notability for inclusion in this article. Popular legends and blogs do not count. Follow the bluelinks I left here and at the article talk to see our policies for what are and are not acceptable sources for citations. He iro 01:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image dispute from an anon?

You're not likely to get a response from this IP address. The original uploader was Hablador, who was previously edit warring on the Clan of Xymox article, and he's not likely to respond to copyvios anytime soon. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 07:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I dont think the IP is xem, as they are trying to get the user to contact OTRS if they have copyright and have also proposed the image for deletion at Commons because they dont seem to believe that Hablador has copyright. He iro 07:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join WikiProject United States

Hello, Heironymous Rowe! WikiProject United States, an outreach effort supporting development of United States related articles in Wikipedia, has recently been restarted after a long period of inactivity. As a user who has shown an interest in United States related topics we wanted to invite you to join us in developing content relating to the United States. If you are interested please add your Username and area of interest to the members page here. Thank you!!!

--Kumioko (talk) 17:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Images of Poverty Point

Hi, I think I asked you before but can't find it in your archive: Would you have additional images of the Poverty Point site and/or objects from there? I used all your pictures in the de-WP article and could use more. The article is a candidate to become "exzellent" (~featured) right now and I wish to try anything to improve it. TIA and a happy new year. Please keep up the great work on precolumbian cultures. --h-stt !? 10:51, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AFD

Please check what I did. One person posted his unrelated comment in the middle of a thread and duplicated some comments. My small change makes a lot of sense. Garion96 (talk) 20:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Still, this is an AFD, removing anothers post or placing it somewhere else is seriously frowned upon. I would advise asking them if they would like to move it or remove it, but not to unilaterally do it youself. He iro 20:26, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since that editor is blocked indef that might make it quite difficult. The way it reads now because of his editing in the middle AND duplicating a comment is that I think an unsourced edit outing someone with hiv is a small slip. He moved his comment in the middle, I just moved it to the end of that section, nothing bad about that. Garion96 (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I still think its a bad idea to mess with others posts, whether they are currently blocked or not. But if you can get input from other editors on the AFD talk agreeing with you, I withdraw my objections. He iro 20:31, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My objections still stand until we get input from others, would you kindly revert you reversion? He iro 20:36, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missed this comment. So basically everybody is allowed to post in the middle of a thread making the thread ineligible? Changing those things happens all the time. And no, I don't want to revert it. It changes the meaning of a thread. My edit makes sense since I haven't changed anything. Garion96 (talk) 20:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

check your email

Dougweller (talk) 19:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thank you for cleaning up after that hoaxing IP editor. Not being familiar with the topic area it would have taken me forever to research what was vandalism and what wasn't. Siawase (talk) 11:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Alexander Voytovych for deletion

The article Alexander Voytovych is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Voytovych until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.. -Uyvsdi (talk) 00:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

A statement of divinity

I have learned for myself that your beliefs aren't true.

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 Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion.  However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.. -[[User:Uyvsdi|Uyvsdi]] ([[User talk:Uyvsdi|talk]]) 00:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi
+== A statement of divinity ==
+I have learned for myself that your beliefs aren't true.