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Every time I used Refill, it logs me out of Wikipedia. So when I save the changes made by Refill, they are saved while I am logged out. Has anyone else had this problem? Pinging {{u|Zhaofeng Li}}. Thanks. [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 17:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Every time I used Refill, it logs me out of Wikipedia. So when I save the changes made by Refill, they are saved while I am logged out. Has anyone else had this problem? Pinging {{u|Zhaofeng Li}}. Thanks. [[User:Sundayclose|Sundayclose]] ([[User talk:Sundayclose|talk]]) 17:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
:Same here. [[User:Caro7200|Caro7200]] ([[User talk:Caro7200|talk]]) 19:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
:Same here. [[User:Caro7200|Caro7200]] ([[User talk:Caro7200|talk]]) 19:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
::Same - please see [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Logged out by using REFILL]]. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 17:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)


==FYI all==
==FYI all==

Revision as of 17:06, 21 March 2020

ReFill 2 - Duplicate authors

I love the functionality of ReFill 2, but I have come across one bug:

<ref>https://deadline.com/2019/02/lenora-crichlow-avenue-5-pilot-cast-hbo-armando-iannucci-1202565470/</ref>

renders as:

<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://deadline.com/2019/02/lenora-crichlow-avenue-5-pilot-cast-hbo-armando-iannucci-1202565470/|title=Lenora Crichlow Joins Cast Of HBO’s ‘Avenue 5’ Pilot From Armando Iannucci|first1=Patrick|last1=Hipes|first2=Patrick|last2=Hipes|date=February 26, 2019}}</ref>

and adds the same author twice. It also occurs for multiple authors:

<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://deadline.com/2019/02/avenue-5-josh-gad-star-armando-iannucci-hbo-comedy-pilot-1202562221/ |title=‘Avenue 5’: Josh Gad To Star In Armando Iannucci's HBO Comedy Pilot|first1=Nellie Andreeva,Denise|last1=Petski|first2=Nellie|last2=Andreeva|first3=Denise|last3=Petski|date=February 21, 2019}}</ref>

I have mostly had this happen for Deadline Hollywood citations, which I figured was an issue with their code, but now it has also happened with TVLine:

<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://tvline.com/2019/02/20/zach-woods-avenue-5-hbo-space-comedy-cast/ |title=Silicon Valley's Zach Woods Joins Veep Creator Armando Iannucci's Sci-Fi Comedy Pilot Avenue 5 at HBO|first1=Michael|last1=Ausiello|first2=Michael|last2=Ausiello|date=February 20, 2019}}</ref>

The problem is likely in the external website's code, but perhaps this tool can employ a workaround? Thanks!— TAnthonyTalk 21:04, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also occurred with Rolling Stone: {{Cite web|url=https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/melrose-place-is-a-really-good-show-57740/|title='Melrose Place' Is a Really Good Show|first1=David|last1=Wild|first2=David|last2=Wild|date=May 19, 1994}}
No one has a fix?— TAnthonyTalk 19:02, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to try and seek out someone to take over the maintenance of this vital tool.— TAnthonyTalk 16:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TAnthony: Did you find anyone to take over the maintenance? The tool is still generating duplicate authors. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@GoingBatty: Unfortunately no. I made inquiries at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) and Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard, and the last I heard was this edit summary suggesting that Cyberpower678 was looking into the possibility of adopting it.— TAnthonyTalk 15:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TAnthony, I have been added as a maintainer of ReFill. I am planning to work with the author to merge it with InternetArchiveBot. But's it's a long road. Both the bot and the tool have elements that can benefit from one another. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:48, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's great news, thanks so much for taking the initiative.— TAnthonyTalk 15:50, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Newly deprecated cite parameters

|deadurl= and |dead-url= have been deprecated in {{cite web}} and its variants, in favor of |url-status=. However, I notice reFill 2 is still generating |dead-url=. Monkbot and other editors are in the process of replacing these deprecated parameters across Wikipedia, so it would be great if this tool (which I use all the time) was updated accordingly. Please see Template:Cite web#What's new for details, but note that the "yes" or "no" values also need to be changed to "live", "dead", "unfit", or "usurped", as necessary. Thanks!— TAnthonyTalk 20:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi just following up on this. ReFill is still using the deprecated syntax, though InternetArchiveBot and GreenC bot have made the fix. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 18:02, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello TAnthony. Responses to posts here are few and far between. I do know that refill two is undergoing some kind of transformation as it has slowed way down in the last couple days. Someone must be working on it somewhere but I have no idea how to find out who or where this is being done. You might try asking about your item at the village pump technical. Hopefully someone there will know something. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 19:35, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!— TAnthonyTalk

Available worker

Out of curiosity, how long should I wait for an available worker? As of this timestamp I've waited ~15 mins for it to find an available worker. Hasteur (talk) 02:17, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are admirably and/or maddeningly patient Hasteur. The new program seems to have a snag where this happens. I wait about thirty seconds and if it hasn't started formatting refs I do the old reliable of hitting ctrl-F5 and that usually gets things going. On the rare occasion where that doesn't work I move on to WP:REFLINKS. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 03:28, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can Refill2 automatically add access dates?

Can Refill2 be configured to automatically add access dates? I used to use this option on Refill, but I couldn't find such an option on Refill2. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 20:35, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It would need to go back and check the date that the reference was added to the article, not just add today's date when it was verified that the reference source exists. "Access date" indicates that the source at this date supported the content it is shown as supporting, and it would be wrong to add any date other than the date the reference was added to the article. Websites get updated or edited, and the "access date" is intended to show which version of the website was being used as a source. Automatically adding the current date would not be helpful or accurate. PamD 21:22, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@PamD: Thanks for the reply. Recently, I've been using the tool to expand bare URLs which were added only a few hours (or in some cases minutes) earlier, so the current date would be appropriate as the access-date. I'll just keep adding the access-dates manually. DH85868993 (talk) 00:06, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ReFill 2 still adding deadurl= parameter

In this edit, reFill added the deprecated parameter |deadurl=. To make sure it was the tool, and not a human edit, I copied the previous version of the article into my sandbox and ran reFill 2 against it, with the same result.

The new parameter is |url-status=, with possible values of "dead" or "live". Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:18, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Wikipedia references

Drafts are often submitted to AfC with references to Wikipedia. It would be good if these could be removed, and even better if the article name in the ref is in the words just preceding the reference that is linked as well. A recent example: this Cheer KylieTastic (talk) 12:35, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

tool down?

Reported to Github. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:57, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris troutman: seems to be okay again. :-) Lotje (talk) 17:07, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bloomberg

When Refill goes to the Bloomberg website, it is stopped by a robot checker, loses the original page link and the page name given is "Are you a Robot?"

Is there a way to not pick up that title?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_mergers_and_acquisitions&diff=prev&oldid=934440289

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaltenmeyer (talkcontribs) 03:47, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To anyone who comes across this thread please see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Bloomberg - Are you a robot?. MarnetteD|Talk 17:05, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

reFill

Hello @Zhaofeng Li:, I am from ckbwiki. I want to say why reFill tool doesn't work on ckbwiki? Thanks! --⇒ AramTalk 11:56, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tool down again?

Every time I've tried to use it these past couple of days I've gotten an "Internal Server Error" message. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:15, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See also discussion at User talk:Zhaofeng Li#Blue whale reFill errors. --Nessie (📥) 16:56, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It indeed is still down. thank you for looking into it! Lotje (talk) 17:02, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyberpower678: The tool has been down for a few days, is this something you're able to troubleshoot? Thanks!17:38, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A most useful tool-thankyou! A pity it is down :| DadaNeem (talk) 01:58, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed - I can't write an article without reFill! It's invaluable. Please get it up and running again. KJP1 (talk) 17:46, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Zhaofeng Li! I've been getting the same error message other people have been receiving of "internal server error." The tool's been inoperable for days on end. If you could fix the bug, it would be most appreciated, as I've come to rely on the tool. Thank you so much, and for creating the tool to begin with! Your friend, --Caterpillar84 (talk) 23:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Caterpillar84 I wanted to let you know that ZL has not edited since July 2019. You could try asking what is going on at the WP:VPT. MarnetteD|Talk 00:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hooray, here he is again... Lotje (talk) 12:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not for me, it isn't. I'm getting the internal server error again. And Reflinks is also troublesome, frequently not letting you log in so the amended page can't be saved. I've just had to do this, Rudby Hall, by a very laborious cut-and-paste. PLEASE can someone make it work again! KJP1 (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Lotje whatever happened on the French Wiki is good but Refill 2 is still not working here on the English one. Caterpillar started this thread Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Refill not working so readers here can check on that for updates. MarnetteD|Talk 19:44, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can a revert to old be written to the source or can a temporary fork be made ?
"I've tried a few times to use this tool in the last couple days. Now, I get a "Failed An error has occurred." when using." Chris-troutman Dec 25, 2019, 7:53 AM PSTGithub
English uses: https://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/ng/
French uses:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/index.php
https://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/result.php
24.7.104.84 (talk) 01:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hurray, hurray, the tool is back! Thank ever so much Lotje (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's working for me too. Thanks to whoever got it going again. --Nessie (📥) 17:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@NessieVL: indeed, that is the probleme, one never knows whom to thank. I hope the user(s) who made it work again will read this. :-) Lotje (talk) 04:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all. Please take a moment and see this thread Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Refill not working which mentions who is now running Refill 2. I've already dropped a note of thanks here User talk:Cyberpower678#Yippee!. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 15:28, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BBC

I've just noticed that refill was trying to change a URL from:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50741916

to:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50741916


(i.e. .co.uk to .com)

Why is this, and how can it be prevented? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:26, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Domain reselling pages

reFill is undoubtedly a useful tool, but it would be very significantly more so if it could detect domain reselling pages and use that as a trigger that an archive version is needed - see for example the second change in the first diff line at [1].

The following strings in the page title (a non-exclusive list) should all trigger the tool to not use those details and prompt for human action:

  • "This website is for sale"
  • "Deze website is te koop"
  • "Website disabled"
  • "HugeDomains.com"
  • "Denna sida är till salu"
  • "for sale!"
  • "主婦が消費者金融に対して思う事"
  • "page not found"
  • "ACTUAL ARTICLE TITLE BELONGS HERE"

(all are examples I've seen reFill (users) thoughtlessly place into articles. Thryduulf (talk) 12:53, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

'deadurl' parameter

Refill is still using |deadurl, which is deprecated, rather than the preferred |url-status=dead; this causes an error message to be displayed. Here's an example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We need you!

It is a real shame this tool doesn't operate as it used to. It was an absolute godsend, but now it fails to operate so often. KJP1 (talk) 22:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "fails to operate" KJP1? It works as it always has for me. Now it does occasionally hang up at the beginning but if you get that "waiting for the next..." message then just hit ctrl+F5 and that gets it going . MarnetteD|Talk 22:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget that reflinks and Citer are also available. You may know about them already but I thought I'd mention them in case. MarnetteD|Talk 22:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad it works for you - for me, I get the wheel of death, endless "waiting..", and then a frozen screen. It never used to have these issues. KJP1 (talk) 22:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please do try the ctrl+F5 KJP1. That usually gets it going though I do have to use it a second time every so often. MarnetteD|Talk 23:07, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Really appreciate the advice and shall give it a go. KJP1 (talk) 23:11, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Best of luck and happy editing KJP1. MarnetteD|Talk 23:13, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@KJP1: you could try to use it in another language you are familiar with, there is more than English to pick from... :-) Lotje (talk) 17:30, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Refill

The refill tool is not working again. It states there is a Backend error. And right now it does not process requests at all. [2] BabbaQ (talk) 16:52, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BabbaQ there is some info about the situation here Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#WP:REFILL is down. I don't know how much longer it will be out of service. I am using reflinks for the time being. MarnetteD|Talk 19:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
MarnetteD - Reflinks isn't letting me sign in, and therefore I can't use that either! Any advice. Woe is me! KJP1 (talk) 17:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
KJP1 all the tools went down yesterday. I have just gotten on WikiP today and haven't checked to see if things have been fixed. If not we just have to wait until the boffins get things going again. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:04, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Citation bot's gone down as well. It fixed one page for me yesterday and hasn't worked again since. This is Paul (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Worked for me just now, thank you so much to all involved. Caro7200 (talk) 16:25, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It had been automatically migrated to a new cloud environment but needed some manual TLC to get it working there. Thanks to BStorm_(WMF) (talk · contribs) for working her magic. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Error with one specific website

With this edit Refill changed http://jalgpall.ee/koondis/7/koosseis to http://jalgpall.ee/koondis/koosseis which does not take you to the correct place. Another example of similar mistake (removes player ID from database link), same website. Can it be fixed? Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:13, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

301 moved permanently

"301 Moved Permanently".[3] Unreal7 (talk) 11:03, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Refill logs me out

Every time I used Refill, it logs me out of Wikipedia. So when I save the changes made by Refill, they are saved while I am logged out. Has anyone else had this problem? Pinging Zhaofeng Li. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 17:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Same here. Caro7200 (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Same - please see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Logged out by using REFILL. GiantSnowman 17:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FYI all

To those posing here please be aware that Zhaofeng is no longer maintaining Refill. Unfortunately, though the tool is still being tinkered with, no one who is working on it seems to have this page on their watchlist. I know how frustrating this is so I have opened this thread Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Requests for help regarding refill to see if we can get some responses and help here. I don't know whether it will get results or not so you might try posting new questions about the tool at that VP in the future. Thanks to all for trying to get this tool up to date. MarnetteD|Talk 19:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]