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:I am only [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Irpen&diff=115650429&oldid=115649610 learning from the best], Irpen.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 01:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
:I am only [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Irpen&diff=115650429&oldid=115649610 learning from the best], Irpen.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 01:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
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::Irpen, that you ''should have known better'' is quite an understatement. [[User:Dr. Dan|Dr. Dan]] 03:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
::Irpen, that you ''should have known better'' is quite an understatement. [[User:Dr. Dan|Dr. Dan]] 03:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
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I hope that P.P. (aka Prokonsul Piotrus) would not ban me (as he threatens [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AM.K&diff=109082071&oldid=108855963 several times already]) if I write about this situation. The same situation regarding usage of [[user: LUCPOL]]’s “services” I meet at [[Ponary massacre]]. Firstly Piotrus tried his best to remove referenced facts about Polish Jew killers [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ponary_massacre&diff=108868750&oldid=108819852 with shocking edit summary] , such behavior was denounced by other contributor [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ponary_massacre&diff=next&oldid=108868750] . And now then P.P. is alone with his POV and removal of facts, suddenly out of nowhere [[user: LUCPOL]] jumps in and restores “proper” version of article by removing referenced facts and tags presented by different contributors with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ponary_massacre&diff=next&oldid=108916763 with edit summary - '''this is OK'''] . Feel the power? And literally LUCPOL did not add a '''single''' entry to a talk page why removal of facts is “OK”. He also did not add a single entry to the article before nor related articles. But just looking into LUCPOL contributions such behavior is not isolated, exact same happened and in other places. I find disturbing that contributor who allegedly can’t present his view and defensive speech to his ArbCom case [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=110486080#Statement_by_Piotrus] due to poor command of English (as Piotrus notes), but can easily remove facts and distort articles. Another interesting development, as P.P. notes LUCPOL has bad command of English (btw, did he/she understand articles in which he/she intervenes?), translation of LUCPOL’s thoughts to ArbCom and RFI was made also by Piotrus . |
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So that do we have – same “contribution” scheme – when Piotrus intervenes in content dispute and needs "support" LUCPOL, who enjoyed Piotrus’ help in his ArbCom and RFI cases, jumps in out of nowhere and restores "proper" article version supported by Piotrus, without any further involvement in articles . Probably we will see more such developments in the coming future. [[User:M.K|M.K.]] 09:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
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You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 07:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC) Order of Saint StanislausRegarding your comment here, can I just copy and paste the contents of the last four articles into one of the first two and then add a merge tag to the first two? Appleseed (Talk) 21:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC) TroublesHi Piotrus, Darwinek seems to be in troubles, please see here [1]. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 00:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Belarus FAC is upWikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Belarus has been up for about 2 days or so. If I haven't been doing to a dentist for everything under the sun, I would have a lot more of the questions done. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 16:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Me neitherWell, that guy is on a tour, and, given what he allowed himself to say about me, I'm not ready to even pay attention to what he claims and argues (suffices to note that the emphasis is on "I would like you to state your opinion about Rumanization", which translates into "I have a POV to push"). In any case, I don't think the lead is wrong, but the sentence may be futile. Dahn 17:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Darwinek. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Darwinek/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Darwinek/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Newyorkbrad 19:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC) EducationWhen is it Vandalism, fixing your lack of knowlege about Polish history. I know everything about you, you are all over the internet, making up your own proof to the stories that you are teaching your students. The hammer will never kill the white eagle. I am very sorry for you, being (I Think) Polish and promoting the death and destruction of you families history. Countries don't annex, did the U.S. annex Iraq? I don't now how was teaching you as you grow up, and you ideas placed on you. Freedom is Equality, having a all high cantrolling Government will never give you freedom because they will always afraid of a revolt. If a government comes and a kill one of your kids with no trial, I hope you will not set back and say It's my Governments wish. Please if this is just for your doctrine, then don't give up on your history because the polish only have each other, and other country fear the polish to the exstint of killing them for fear and the power of the polish mind. Please e_mail so we can have discuss history and polish believes. I am getting the Back by Polish Organizations in the USA and Polish.
magusrobertus@yahoo.ie —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sir Gutowski (talk • contribs) 17:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
Re: LebensbornGiven his various other accusations of people being right-wingers, fascists, etc., I'm not actually convinced that he didn't intend a political subtext here; but, in any case, let's assume for the sake of argument that the usage was purely as a metaphor. There are, in my opinion, different levels of "unacceptable" metaphors, ranging from the merely poorly-chosen ones to those which evoke comparisons so vile that excusing them is simply out of the question. In some sense, the very specificity of the term used is a negative factor here; I find it utterly inconcievable that Darwinek could have chosen the lebensborn comparison without actually being aware of what the history of the program was—and this necessarily forces me to conclude that he considered it acceptable to compare a fellow editor to Himmler. Frankly, I see no reason why we should tolerate such commentary here. (It's a bit like the difference between saying "the admins are all thugs bent on abusing innocent editors" and "the admins are rounding people up like the Einsatzgruppen"; one is merely an insulting comparison, while the other is intended to evoke a very specific—and extraordinarily hateful—image.) Kirill Lokshin 19:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
DYKPresecution of Political bloggersCzesc. I zauwazylem ze Pan, ponowne odnowil texty Biophys'ego ktore nie zawiera zadnej informacji o blogach. Prosze Pana, z poczatku czytac texty ktore sa reference'ami, i tylko zatym cos robic. Po drugie, mam nadzeje ze Pan to robi nie zatym ze jest bardzo zainteresowany w dezynformacjii o Rosjii.Vlad fedorov 05:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Tranlsations for ArbComI marked the threads in question in your archives. Could you go to the Archive 13 linked above and add the full an honest translations of the threads in question for the ongoing ArbCom case. --Irpen 06:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC) Deletion of The Independent School, Inc.I removed the article at The Independent School, Inc. per your lapsed prod last night. The original author has requested that the article be restored, which I have done per the prod guidelines. You can read his request at User_talk:Kuru#Deletion_of_The_Independent_School.2C_Inc. - the next step is AFD, but you may want to wait a day or two to see if he improves the article or establishes some sort of notability. Kuru talk 23:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC) african polesCould someone please tell me how much of the polish population is from "African" decent? new interesting articleCheck this out: Battle of Jarosław, and please, make it better :) Pan Wikipedia 12:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Hi, Piotrus. Could you please weigh in on the dispute here? It seems to me the other side is arguing that it was not an occupation, but as the citations I have provided in footnote 1 show, many legitimate sources call it that. See also my explanation on the talk page. Thank you for your assistance. Biruitorul 04:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Maps are not I feel a good target at the moment. Buildings I'm working on but my inkscape-fu is weak so it will may not be finished tonight.Geni 20:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC) NoSeptember Admin Project list of user pagesThanks for the note. Please feel free to add new pages to my list when you find them :). NoSeptember 22:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for March 26th, 2007.
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Curbing the pushers of the "friendly" POVPiotrus, I know that you repeatedly refused to reign down on the POV-pushers if the POV they were pushing seemed "right" to you no matter what behavior they expressed. Molobo, Ksenon/Litwa, LUCPOL or Mathiasrex who you even instructed on how to file a 3RR report on myself. But I really have no choice but to ask you again, now in connection with LUCPOL. As we speak he repeatedly removed my well explained tag from the NGF article without discussion and without adding a single entry to a talk page. I request that you take him to the woodshed about disruption and restore the tag on your own until our discussion is finished as I expect the fellow to be looking forward for an opportunity to accuse me in 3RR. He may even be the same fellow as Mathiasrex. --Irpen 20:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Piotrus, this is not about people disagreeing. It is about acting reasonably or not. My objection are well explained and out of nowhere appears this friend of yours who reverts me without adding anything to the discussion. And, as always, you refused to curb on the friendly troll and use him instead as battering ram. I tried to appeal to your consciousness once again. Guess, I made a mistake. The rest of your accusations are not new and I will not dignify them with a response just to repeat what was said earlier. --Irpen 20:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
You just pretend to not understand that WP:RS and WP:NPOV are different policies and they address different issues. Sigh. I've heard it already. --Irpen 21:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Another straw man argument. No wikipedian can claim to be a reliable source. I never claimed otherwise. --Irpen 21:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I hope that P.P. (aka Prokonsul Piotrus) would not ban me (as he threatens several times already) if I write about this situation. The same situation regarding usage of user: LUCPOL’s “services” I meet at Ponary massacre. Firstly Piotrus tried his best to remove referenced facts about Polish Jew killers with shocking edit summary , such behavior was denounced by other contributor [3] . And now then P.P. is alone with his POV and removal of facts, suddenly out of nowhere user: LUCPOL jumps in and restores “proper” version of article by removing referenced facts and tags presented by different contributors with with edit summary - this is OK . Feel the power? And literally LUCPOL did not add a single entry to a talk page why removal of facts is “OK”. He also did not add a single entry to the article before nor related articles. But just looking into LUCPOL contributions such behavior is not isolated, exact same happened and in other places. I find disturbing that contributor who allegedly can’t present his view and defensive speech to his ArbCom case [4] due to poor command of English (as Piotrus notes), but can easily remove facts and distort articles. Another interesting development, as P.P. notes LUCPOL has bad command of English (btw, did he/she understand articles in which he/she intervenes?), translation of LUCPOL’s thoughts to ArbCom and RFI was made also by Piotrus . So that do we have – same “contribution” scheme – when Piotrus intervenes in content dispute and needs "support" LUCPOL, who enjoyed Piotrus’ help in his ArbCom and RFI cases, jumps in out of nowhere and restores "proper" article version supported by Piotrus, without any further involvement in articles . Probably we will see more such developments in the coming future. M.K. 09:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC) DYKRomania and the Warsaw pactThanks for the link. Dpotop 06:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC) RequestRegarding your phrase at my talk page, I don't know that phrase but I guess I get that. Regarding your request of Milovice geo-stub, there are three municipalities in the Czech Republic called Milovice. Two of them are villages, one is a town. Which one do you meant? - Darwinek 08:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |