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Adam J. Yeend

G'day,

The page Adam J. Yeend seems to have no reason according to Wikipedia:Notability to exist on wikipedia and seems to be completely created by either the person themself, or their agent.

Αχ FP... αχ

No need to be prosaic all the time. So this is for you. I really hope you like greek poetry because I couldn't resist the temptation...

Στο ταβάνι βλέπω τους γύψους.

Mαίανδροι στο χορό τους με τραβάνε.

H ευτυχία μου, σκέπτομαι, θά 'ναι

ζήτημα ύψους.

Σύμβολα ζωής υπερτέρας,

ρόδα αναλλοίωτα, μετουσιωμένα,

λευκές άκανθες ολόγυρα σ' ένα

Aμάλθειο κέρας.

(Tαπεινή τέχνη δίχως ύφος,

πόσο αργά δέχομαι το δίδαγμά σου!)

Όνειρο ανάγλυφο, θα 'ρθώ κοντά σου

κατακορύφως.

Oι ορίζοντες θα μ' έχουν πνίξει.

Σ' όλα τα κλίματα, σ' όλα τα πλάτη,

αγώνες για το ψωμί και το αλάτι,

έρωτες, πλήξη.

Ά! πρέπει τώρα να φορέσω

τ' ωραίο εκείνο γύψινο στεφάνι.

Έτσι, με πλαίσιο γύρω το ταβάνι,

πολύ θ' αρέσω.

Hey, thanks! Looks beautiful... But don't overestimate my Greek, I'll need some time to work this out. Kariotakis, is it? Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Just some help: it is Karyotakis and it is considered among his poems that clearly illustrate his will to commit suicide.

Ά! πρέπει τώρα να φορέσω

τ' ωραίο εκείνο γύψινο στεφάνι.

Έτσι, με πλαίσιο γύρω το ταβάνι,

πολύ θ' αρέσω.

Referring to himself hanging from the ταβάνι=ceiling. --Hectorian (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Well it is so, but this is not what I had in mind. No need to misconstrue my gesture. It is simply a beautiful poem actually meant as a playful comment on my part --Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

LOL. I just wrote about the poem's meaning. Noone says we should take it literary. --Hectorian (talk) 13:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Ha ha ha sure... but one can never be cautious enough--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Good you're saying this now, because here I was already me to skoini sto xeri ... But for the lack of a stuccoed ceiling, who knows... Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I am pretty sure that a lot of people in here would be more than eager to offer both the room with the stuccoed ceiling and the rope... και μη χειρότερα!--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 14:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Palávra

I found a reference that listed palávra as a modern Greek word. I could not find an online source for the etymology of modern Greek words. The wiktionary entry for "palavra" does not list the Greek word although it lists Portuguese & Ladino (it is also in Turkish & Greek (?) & Romanian with that spelling, "palavra"). Do you recommend any websites for the etymology of modern Greek words? The original form was "parabole" so I'm wondering how it changed to "palavra" in Greek, or maybe "palavra" was borrowed into Greek later. A is putting the smack down (talk) 10:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

According to Babiniotis, it's a reborrowing from Ladino. 3rdAlcove (talk) 10:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

That makes a lot of sense. That idea occured to me. From Ladino it went into Greek & Turkish, then from Greek & Turkish into Romanian and maybe Aromanian and Bulgarian, I haven't checked South Slavic. If anybody has any online resources for finding out the etymologies of contemporary Greek words, drop me a note or somethin' ;) A is putting the smack down (talk) 10:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Too many SPA and socks from 2channel

Hello, Fut.Perf, could you set some Japan-Korea related article on your watchlist? Shameless meat/sockpuppets from 2channel disrupt such articles as distorting contents or adding spurious citations just like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Korean cultural claims (2nd nomination). Currently, too many socks such as Daialone (talk · contribs), Propastop (talk · contribs), Newmenber1 (talk · contribs), Bukubku (talk · contribs), Wahtsay (talk · contribs), Goolbenjin (talk · contribs) are sock/meatpuppeting on Gaya, Baekje, Empress Myeongseong etc. I filed Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pabopa but still too many socks are not listed on the request because I don't want it too lengthy. Besides, Michael Friedrich (talk · contribs) canvassed to 2channel again [1] for the AFD just like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uriginal, so could you warn him for such unconstructive behaviors? Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into their contributions. Could you also take a look at this newbie 동아 일본 (talk · contribs)? His first contribution is moving on-goging discussions to a subpage, Talk:Prince Shōtoku/Korean Original research It is highly unlikely a genuine new user.--Caspian blue (talk) 20:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Serious case of libel

Will someone finally do something about this?!--Retepeliouroum (talk) 19:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:KOE US Embassy Athens 2006.jpg

Just FYI, I've undeleted this one, as I've actually got the license confirmed after all, supposing you wouldn't object. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

No objections from me. All the best - Peripitus (Talk) 21:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Greece situates partially in Asia

The source, which shows that Greece situates partially in Asia: Around the world: Countries that exist wholly or partially within geographical Europe, inter alia From the Black Sea coast, the geographical border of Europe passes through the deepest parts of the Black Sea to the mouth of the Bosphorus; on through the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara and the Dardanelles to the Aegean Sea; through the deepest parts of the Aegean Sea to the Mediterranean and around to the Straits of Gibraltar. The line through the Aegean Sea divides the Greek Islands between continental Europe and continental Asia.
--WPK (talk) 13:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

"Warning"?

Before "warning" me, don't You and others dispute the information Around the world: Countries that exist wholly or partially within geographical Europe about the article Greece, please.
--WPK (talk) 13:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

A little work for you

Take a look here and give opinion! danke --Raso mk (talk) 21:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ping!

Hi!

Did you have a moment to maybe take a look this issue? SWik78 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Calm down

I am currently working on an image upgrade for those images with more detail and better color patterns. I don't appreciate the fact that you don't see his agenda - uploading an image that does not contain the all-around language solution that was agreed upon (and these guys push POV for years now). He isn't an image creator, but he is using MY image to play games.

I will replace ALL those images with better quality - today or tomorrow.

Thanks. Rarelibra (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

FPaS - you just stated, on my talk page, the exact reason why my image exists! After all the turmoil, the most logical input from neutral admins and such was to make one that had all the names for everyone to be happy. Only now, after some time, is Supparluca restarting the POV push. The image existed for a long time without any protest until this.

I am finishing the new image - which will have border country labels, border province labels, and the municipalities outlined. This detail should trump the old image and will hopefully be accepted - and it will have all the names, like before. If you could please explain that this new image will be more than worthy to the article, I would appreciate it. Rarelibra (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

New image is now uploaded. Would appreciate feedback. Rarelibra (talk) 15:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Alphabet

Dear FPS, why did you erase information from Alphabet?[2] I think it is wrong to erase information without any discussion. Have a nice day! AdjustShift (talk) 14:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

You are an admin, so there must be some reason behind that edit! :-) AdjustShift (talk) 14:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for calling your edit "vandalism". :-) AdjustShift (talk) 14:55, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, no prob. It was obviously unencyclopedic material. Nothing to do with me being an admin though. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

You are an admin and admins can revert edits by banned/blocked users. So I thought that may have been the case. You are right: they were unencyclopedic material. Have a nice day! AdjustShift (talk) 15:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Am I missing something?

At first glance, it appears that you removed constructive talk about an article - specifically what is missing - in this edit. What's up with that? Toddst1 (talk) 04:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I see nothing constructive in that section. It's just the usual "OMGZ evil FYROMian history thiefs" off-topic rants. From a person who has never done anything more constructive than that during his whole career on this project. The assertion that these topics are something that is "missing in the article" is tenuous at best; even if they were, he isn't discussing how to constructively integrate them; he is arguing (for the millionth time) why his side is right and why everybody else is evil propagandists. Which is the only thing this person is interested in doing here. If you don't believe me, just check [3]: he wants his posts to be read as evidence that "what I am saying about FYROM irredentism/propaganda has truth to it." Also look at this. As far as I'm concerned, this person is one step away from an indef-block. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

As usual he's dismissive of the importance of the points in question. All I ask for is some of common sense here. Is the President of FYROM admitting he isn't related to ancient Macedonians, an image of their current PM laying a wreath where a map of a Macedonia Greece as belonging to FYROM is directly in front of him, and US Congress introducing bills condemning FYROM for propaganda (one co-sponsored by Obama)...not rather important to an article that also relates to the alleged cultural identity of FYROM citizens?

Instead Futper turns it into the newb-is-trolling meme. And this is exactly why I've had to come to you Todd (and Mark.. and more admins as required). I haven't lied to yet Todd. He constantly edits against Greek positions. All you need to is to continue going through his diffs that relate to Greece. I've provided a few already --Crossthets (talk) 07:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Crossthets, you are now half a step away from an indef block. The next time you feel you have to spew out the same rant again, against me or the FYROMians or a mixture of both, on whatever page, make sure you have previously at least done something, for once, to actually improve this encyclopedia. Because that's why we're here, and that's why those of us who actually try to improve the encyclopedia have no time to listen to your endless repetitions. So now go away and edit an article, and for chrissake try to make it not yet another piece of stupid POV-pushing. Until you have shown you actually want to do encyclopedic work here, please stay away from my talk page. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Out, I said. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I really don't know what the heck is going on here. Fut, as one admin to another, I'd recommend getting another admin to do any further blocking on Crossthets to avoid any RFCs. You two definitely have history and I've been in your shoes before (but free advice can be worth less than you pay for it.)

Just a point of clarification, I'm not sure who the "he" was above, but I can assure any readers that I neither edit for nor against greek issues.

I'll let you two sort it out from here. Toddst1 (talk) 17:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I know the truth...

I know why you are being sieged by all those editors.... You are a mortal enemy of us... Kapnisma ? 16:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hush! An outing attempt! Where's oversight when you need it?

I know you only did that because I got Mr Liakopoulos deleted the other day... Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)