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If you think the [[South Korea]] is that biased, could you please give specific examples of what is NPOV? We're currently trying to improve that page and you could aid us; we could always use more editors. If you've already identified problems that would even give you some momentum to fix them. [[User:RlndGunslinger|RlndGunslinger]] ([[User talk:RlndGunslinger|talk]]) 23:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC) |
If you think the [[South Korea]] is that biased, could you please give specific examples of what is NPOV? We're currently trying to improve that page and you could aid us; we could always use more editors. If you've already identified problems that would even give you some momentum to fix them. [[User:RlndGunslinger|RlndGunslinger]] ([[User talk:RlndGunslinger|talk]]) 23:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC) |
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:I've already mentioned the main problem, the excessive listing already in the lead of superlatives and the constant exclusion of anything that isn't "best in Korea". I'll elaborate further at the talk page of the article.[[User:JdeJ|JdeJ]] ([[User talk:JdeJ#top|talk]]) 07:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC) |
:I've already mentioned the main problem, the excessive listing already in the lead of superlatives and the constant exclusion of anything that isn't "best in Korea". I'll elaborate further at the talk page of the article.[[User:JdeJ|JdeJ]] ([[User talk:JdeJ#top|talk]]) 07:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Wondergirls/Lakshmix == |
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ever get the feeling that they are one and the same? |
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for both of them, their favourite article is South Korea, they have both contributed on BRIC, on Samsung and weirdly enough they have both contributed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_College_School ..kinda strange.. |
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Also my edit was reverted by Wondergirls with the summary "you are Japanese and continuously vandalizing Korean-related articles" while Lakshmix has made reverts with the following summaries : "You are Russian/Japanese and clearly anti-Korean, don't break WP:POV rules" and "You are Chinese and your past edits are all anti-Korean" |
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do I have an overactive imagination, or do they seem like the same editor to you? |
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[[User:Sennen goroshi|Sennen goroshi]] ([[User talk:Sennen goroshi|talk]]) 15:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC) |
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Mallika Sherawat
Hello!
I somehow agree with what you say on Mallika Sherawat's page. First of all, don't get too fascinated by reverting others' work. You had removed the reference I've added. First of all, Rediff.com is the most reliable and unbiased Indian site on the net (you said it's a gossip magazine, quite strange to hear that). Secondly, sex symbol is not a peacock, and see WP:PEACOCK for evidence.
Regarding the writing tone, I do agree with you. Therefore, I've rewritten it and toned it down. Thanks for the help. Best regards, Shahid • Talk2me
RFC
Conventions Being Violated.
Organic Agriculture Redirect Page
Thank you for helping me as I work out how this system works. I am trying to update and enrich sections of Wikipedia which are related to my organization IFOAM the International Federation of Organic Agriculture www.ifoam.org. We are the Umbrella Organization for Organic Agriculture and have an official definition for Organic Agriculture which I am charged with advertising on Wikipedia.
The IFOAM official definition: 'Organic agriculture is a production system that sustains the health of soils, ecosystems and people. It relies on ecological processes, biodiversity and cycles adapted to local conditions, rather than the use of inputs with adverse effects. Organic agriculture combines tradition, innovation and science to benefit the shared environment and promote fair relationships and a good quality of life for all involved.'
I understand that things which are posted on wikipedia will be 'mercilessly edited' and that is fine. The issue is that we represent 'Organic Agriculture' It would be advantageous for us to find a way to have a wiki page for 'organic agriculture' rather than 'organic farming' ..
I appreciate
your sensible and thoughtful comments on the European Ethnic Groups talk page. Have you looked at the articles on Ethnic group and Culture? This articles tend to get messy perhaps for predictable reasons, but anyway, both could use work. I put a fair amount work into both a different times and have stepped aside hoping others who are reasonably informed could work on them. Please consider it - we always need good editors for articles that are related to the social and human sciences/cultural studies. Slrubenstein | Talk 00:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review the essay Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humour. Best wishes. ~~~~
- um, so which is it, do you find my contributions "unhelpful" or not? I have just submitted to your judgement and removed my contributions. I contribute to the article, you drop me a vandalism warning.[1] I remove my contributions and you also drop me a vandalism warning[2]. What the hell, man. --dab (𒁳) 10:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know your history and cannot comment on that, but at least your recent actions are very unhelpful, disruptive and immature.JdeJ (talk) 10:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Cliches
Hi, JdeJ. Regarding this edit, I would agree that cliches are as common in Korea as anywhere else. However due to differing cultures, the cliches differ in different countries and their cinemas. In my experience, and reading on the subject, the cliche Korean ending-- at least until fairly recent years-- is a tear-jerker, maudlin, sad ending. But then I wouldn't really call the "happy ending" cliche entirely "western" either-- as the version you changed had it. At least in cinema, the "happy ending" cliche is more U.S. than "western", I think... But the entire section, and that comment on the cliche, is totally unsourced, OR as far as I see. So your version is as good as the previous one, I guess... Just some thoughts. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 22:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your nice comment, you're absolutely right. I replied in full on your talk page.JdeJ (talk) 22:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Right, JdeJ-- I'm a big fan of both the Japanese and the Korean cinema, and I think South Korea is making some of the most interesting movies I've seen these days... Spider Forest, The President's Last Bang, Feathers in the Wind, Save the Green Planet!, for example. Dekkappai (talk) 23:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Germans
And there are German-speaking Mexicans, do you want to fill in that page for every little case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.45.72.26 (talk) 22:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your uninformed comment. It might interest you to know that the majority of all Mexicans speak Spanish, not German. As for South Tyroleans, the majority of them speak German.JdeJ (talk) 22:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, do you really have to make personal attacks like that? That is quite crude, and I'm willing to bet I'm quite a bit more informed than you on North East Italy and Mexico. By the way, that listing does not state majority or minority language, it simply points out languages spoken in a particular area of Europe. As far as uninformed, lets see: there are indeed native German speakers in pockets of Mexico. There was in fact a large migration of Germans to Mexico.. ever wonder where Mexican polka music and beer came from!? I'm sure you knew all of that though. Also, South Tyrol itself is a political term with less than 100 years of usage, not an ethnic term. In that particular province the majority (roughly 2/3) of people state their mother tongue is German, however, since this is a province in Italy nearly 100% of the people speak fluent Italian. So it is not so black and white as you appear to believe. Oh, never mind, I should of checked first. Swedish being arrogant, there is something new. :-) and of French extraction, oh boy... :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.45.72.26 (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Get real now and stop acting like a drama-queen. The fact remains that not even 1% of Mexicans speak Germans so it would hardly be wise to include "Mexicans" in a list over German speakers. A large majority of South Tyroleans do speak German, making it natural to include them. Is there anything unclear in this?JdeJ (talk) 07:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, do you really have to make personal attacks like that? That is quite crude, and I'm willing to bet I'm quite a bit more informed than you on North East Italy and Mexico. By the way, that listing does not state majority or minority language, it simply points out languages spoken in a particular area of Europe. As far as uninformed, lets see: there are indeed native German speakers in pockets of Mexico. There was in fact a large migration of Germans to Mexico.. ever wonder where Mexican polka music and beer came from!? I'm sure you knew all of that though. Also, South Tyrol itself is a political term with less than 100 years of usage, not an ethnic term. In that particular province the majority (roughly 2/3) of people state their mother tongue is German, however, since this is a province in Italy nearly 100% of the people speak fluent Italian. So it is not so black and white as you appear to believe. Oh, never mind, I should of checked first. Swedish being arrogant, there is something new. :-) and of French extraction, oh boy... :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.45.72.26 (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
South Korea
If you think the South Korea is that biased, could you please give specific examples of what is NPOV? We're currently trying to improve that page and you could aid us; we could always use more editors. If you've already identified problems that would even give you some momentum to fix them. RlndGunslinger (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've already mentioned the main problem, the excessive listing already in the lead of superlatives and the constant exclusion of anything that isn't "best in Korea". I'll elaborate further at the talk page of the article.JdeJ (talk) 07:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Wondergirls/Lakshmix
ever get the feeling that they are one and the same?
for both of them, their favourite article is South Korea, they have both contributed on BRIC, on Samsung and weirdly enough they have both contributed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_College_School ..kinda strange..
Also my edit was reverted by Wondergirls with the summary "you are Japanese and continuously vandalizing Korean-related articles" while Lakshmix has made reverts with the following summaries : "You are Russian/Japanese and clearly anti-Korean, don't break WP:POV rules" and "You are Chinese and your past edits are all anti-Korean"
do I have an overactive imagination, or do they seem like the same editor to you?