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:::::Ok, I see where the final point comes from. But on the flip-side, consensus can change, and TTT did make some efforts to diversify his portfolio, as he pointed out (though I fear that this meagre start was overshadowed by his continuing vandalism extermination in some people's eyes). But I am still scratching my head about this shadowy talk of maturity problems that stretch beyond his continuing to tirelessly revert vandalism in spite of the supposed consensus which told him to do something else. Apologies if I seem naggish, I'm just trying to get a better feel of what exactly went into the decision, since no detailed explanation was given on the page for the close. ~~ [[User:Lothar von Richthofen|Lothar von Richthofen]] ([[User talk:Lothar von Richthofen|talk]]) 01:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I see where the final point comes from. But on the flip-side, consensus can change, and TTT did make some efforts to diversify his portfolio, as he pointed out (though I fear that this meagre start was overshadowed by his continuing vandalism extermination in some people's eyes). But I am still scratching my head about this shadowy talk of maturity problems that stretch beyond his continuing to tirelessly revert vandalism in spite of the supposed consensus which told him to do something else. Apologies if I seem naggish, I'm just trying to get a better feel of what exactly went into the decision, since no detailed explanation was given on the page for the close. ~~ [[User:Lothar von Richthofen|Lothar von Richthofen]] ([[User talk:Lothar von Richthofen|talk]]) 01:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
: 68% does sum it up-- and there's people like me hankering for the threshold to be raised to 80. No reason to shoot the messenger here. [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 01:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
: 68% does sum it up-- and there's people like me hankering for the threshold to be raised to 80. No reason to shoot the messenger here. [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 01:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes... I ran, I almost made it, but failed. What's done is done, there's always next time. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put Huggle on a flash drive, delete all other traces from my computer, lock up the drive, and swallow the key. (Ok, not that elaborate, but, you get the picture.) In other words, I am going to see <s>how bad my writing truly is</s> how much content I can churn out this winter. <font face="Segoe Print">[[User:TTTSNB|<font color="#04B">The Thing</font>]] // [[User talk:TTTSNB|<font color="#078">Talk</font>]] // [[Special:Contributions/The Thing That Should Not Be|<font color="#0A5">Contribs</font>]]</font> 01:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


== Thanks for making Halloween DYK-special ==
== Thanks for making Halloween DYK-special ==

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“Dog” The Teddy Bear

Thank you!

Rlevse, thanks very much! It is a happy day. Thank you also for choosing Anatomy of an Epidemic which got over 8,000 visits in DYK. -SusanLesch (talk) 03:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hi Rlevse! Thanks for helping me. Having never done this before, I really had no idea about hooks. I have added In Defense of Reason to the nomination list for articles created or expanded on October 12. Thanks again! — SpikeToronto 04:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request regarding DYK expansion statements

Rlevse, can you please strikeout using strikeout markup, your inaccurate statements at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#14_October_-_Scott_Ashjian and at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Scott_Ashjian, regarding the over 5x expansion of the article? It was indeed expanded over 5x: [1] to [2]. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 20:11, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We now know that and I've already stated as such.RlevseTalk 20:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Striking it out would hopefully help move the process along forwards. Could you please do that? It was not an easy feat to expand and research and improve the article. Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, [3], much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 22:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have proposed an alternative hook, ALT3, and agreed to suggestions by others - that it can be run on November 3, the day after the election [4]. Hopefully this is an acceptable proposal, and satisfactory to you? -- Cirt (talk) 21:48, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I feel a bit foolish about the barnstar you gave me. I only add stuff to Wikipedia because I enjoy doing it, and am much to quick to think "good enough" and move on. But thanks - I really value it. :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 13:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I'm retarded. I have never done a DYK right. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

closing a perfect game

Good call, that should have SNOWed earlier. --je deckertalk 20:53, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Belated thanks

Sorry this is late, but a belated thanks regarding Venues of the 1896 Summer Olympics, Venues of the 1904 Summer Olympics, Venues of the 1928 Winter Olympics, and Venues of the 1932 Winter Olympics on their DYKS. It is appreciated. Chris (talk) 12:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article Grace Sherwood is scheduled to appear as the main page featured article in the near future

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on October 31, 2010. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 31, 2010. If you think that it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director, Raul654 (talk · contribs). If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! TbhotchTalk C. 23:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! Thanks for letting me know! RlevseTalk 23:27, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Picture isn't free

As nice a job as you did on the article, I'm afraid that, at the very least, the picture of the statue can't be used on the Main Page because it isn't a free image.

Under US law, images of copyrighted three-dimensional artworks are inherently derivative works regardless of who created the images (See the statutory text linked from {{Non-free 3D art}}). This image suggests that the statute was created and placed around 2007, so it's copyrighted, and so is the image itself. Therefore you can't license those pictures under CC or anything else as the rights are not yours.

The picture of the marker can't be free, either, since it's a reproduction of text copyrighted to the state of Virginia.

Both of those images should be here with rationales, not on Commons.

Arguably, since the article thus doesn't have any free images at present, it doesn't meet the informal rule that every FA have at least one free image and might be defeaturable on that basis. No one at the FAC seems to have brought this up, unfortunately (if you'd taken it through the usual route, I think someone at the PR or GA level might have caught it).

We could still run it on the Main Page on Halloween if we find a free image we can use, though. Daniel Case (talk) 05:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about File:GraceSherwoodMarker.jpg ? -- Cirt (talk) 05:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As noted above that can't be used either since it is essentially a reproduction of copyrighted text.
Note, there is not an informal rule that an FA has to have an image, and an FA would not be defeatured for that. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, glad to know it. I do recall a drive to audit every then-FA shortly after the current image policy was adopted to make sure they all had at least one free image; I thought that might have become policy since. Daniel Case (talk) 06:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Drats! I never get the hang of panorama, derivative works and such. Poor ol' Grace Sherwood and her FA ;-) How about File:Salem Witch trial engraving.jpg, it could go in the historical context section and be the TFA image. I'll work on cleaning up the licenses and such.RlevseTalk 11:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand this stuff. The whole purpose was to stop using photos from image banks, where people were losing money, not to stop taking photos of publicly visible artwork. To me a photo of a public artwork should be free.RlevseTalk 19:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See Reviewing free images and Reviewing non-free images; it's much more complicated than that. We have to assure that our "free" content is actually free and correctly licensed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, the purpose of the current image policy was to uphold the third pillar and "promote free content", i.e., totally out of principle without regard to the practical fallout like this. It had nothing, at the time, to do with any infringement that was causing anyone any measurable economic harm.

Yes, it would be nice if we had full German freedom of panorama, and three-dimensional public art could be freely photographed. Perhaps someday ... Daniel Case (talk) 04:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't understand this derivative, panorama, type of image rules. My case can't be that obvious or it'd have been caught at FAC.RlevseTalk 19:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not so-- we don't have enough image reviewers, and they don't always show up even though I badger them. It's difficult work, and others try to help out, which is why I was dismayed that Daniel Case appeared to be jabbing at FAC; lack of reviewers is a Wiki-wide problem. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Someone did say the article's images were okay at the FAC for this article. But given how confusing and messed up the image rules are, I can't blame anyone for not understanding them all. I sure don't understand them all. RlevseTalk 19:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I'm afraid this is a fairly straightforward case. File:GraceSherwoodCloseB.jpg File:GraceSherwoodBench.jpg and File:GraceSherwoodMarker.jpg can't be used as free images although I suppose a fair use claim could be made for using one of them in the Legacy section.©Geni 21:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted all from Commons, loaded the three images here with FURs, added two PD images of the Salem trials, which slightly precede her trial. There are no free images of Sherwood that directly apply.RlevseTalk 23:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for TFA notice

Many thanks for the TFA notice about Grace Sherwood on Halloween! RlevseTalk 23:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, just for avoid future confusions. Congrats and if kids are a problem, you can request protection. TbhotchTalk C. 23:47, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Urgent CU for law enforcement

Can you do a quick CU per Wikipedia:Ani#Death_threats_on_Flint.2C_Michigan and send an email to a detective for me? I'll email his address. Toddst1 (talk) 00:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. RlevseTalk 00:03, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You have new mail. Thanks! Toddst1 (talk) 00:05, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Dear Rlevse, thank you for awarding me with 'my day'. To see it first thing in the morning was a real treat. Thanks to you, my day has turned out even more beautiful. Appreciate you for doing that. I'll continue to do my bit in contributing to this vast enterprise. Cheers, and thanks again. Mspraveen (talk) 07:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Death Bell 2 DYK

Hi! I replied to you on the Death Bell 2 DYK article. If it's not adequate, could you suggest something else I can do to fix it? Thanks! Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I cleaned it up. Is it to your liking now? Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know if you have this file bookmarked, but DYKUdateBot is reporting that the protection on File:St Cosmas and St Damian, Stretford - geograph.org.uk - 702040.jpg will expire before the image is off the Main Page. Checking the logs, it appears there was a hook shuffle to address a daqte request that caused this image to be moved back three queue spaces. If you could extend the protect (it currently needs 13 hours to cover its upcoming appearance), it would be appreciated. --Allen3 talk 16:22, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have re-protected for one day. Also now have that errors page watchlisted. RlevseTalk 16:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was blown away when I saw the stats for the Tett turret article. Astoundingly, more than 35,000 views. Alansohn (talk) 01:35, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I already saw that and I was surprised too. It's number 9 on the all-time list at Wikipedia:DYKSTATS#Lead_hooks_with_over_20.2C000_views. RlevseTalk 01:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mauna Kea

The FA nom for Mauna Kea has been restarted, so, yeah, can you check back again? Hopefully this time things will stick. ResMar 01:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Remind me in about 3 days. RlevseTalk 01:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nom for Seneca Nation of Indians v. Christy

I've withdrawn my objection. If you wish to approve it, please do so. Mjroots (talk) 07:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Craquelure

RlevseTalk 12:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the DYK

Thanks for the DYK on Venues of the 1932 Summer Olympics. It is really appreciated. Chris (talk) 13:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. RlevseTalk 17:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again also for the Venues of the 1936 Winter Olympics and Venues of the 1936 Summer Olympics as well. Chris (talk) 19:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any sources (reliable or not) for either the birth or death dates of Crumstone Irma (or even years). I'll keep looking on and off in case it gets added to anything online and I'm aiming to visit the British Library newspaper archive in the next month or two and hope to find something there. Miyagawa (talk) 20:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough.RlevseTalk 20:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks much!

But what did I do? I've just been editing away, doing my thing. Eastcote (talk) 00:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely.RlevseTalk 00:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Days

I am faintly baffled by this, but thankyou :-). I wasn't online on the 23rd, but it was a very nice Saturday... Shimgray | talk | 15:27, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker): Shimgray, I have a similar program, so I can probably explain. It isn't about what the person who is awarded did on that particular day, but on days before that. The user's past edits, past interactions and past good works and deeds are all taken into account and there ya go, your own day. Hope that explains it a little better. :) - NeutralhomerTalk15:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yep.RlevseTalk 16:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Always nice to learn someone notices :) Poliocretes (talk) 08:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Thing RFA

Are you going to give a reason why it was unsuccessful, for the 100+ support votes (I know why it wasn't unsuccessful and I agree on that, but most of these 100+ support votes won't have any clue, and to protect you from all the vandal fighting cabal). Thanks Secret account 23:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

59 opposes = 68%, 'nuf said. RlevseTalk 00:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And I will say that the temperament concerns weighed heavily here. RlevseTalk 00:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As far as temperament concerns, was there anything besides the one breath of sarcasm thrashed (unfairly, IMO) around by the more houndish opposers that factored into your decision? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There was more than one breath, also maturity (sorta related to temperament), and the multiple RFAs with essentially no progress, it shows not listening to the community.RlevseTalk 00:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I see where the final point comes from. But on the flip-side, consensus can change, and TTT did make some efforts to diversify his portfolio, as he pointed out (though I fear that this meagre start was overshadowed by his continuing vandalism extermination in some people's eyes). But I am still scratching my head about this shadowy talk of maturity problems that stretch beyond his continuing to tirelessly revert vandalism in spite of the supposed consensus which told him to do something else. Apologies if I seem naggish, I'm just trying to get a better feel of what exactly went into the decision, since no detailed explanation was given on the page for the close. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 01:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
68% does sum it up-- and there's people like me hankering for the threshold to be raised to 80. No reason to shoot the messenger here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes... I ran, I almost made it, but failed. What's done is done, there's always next time. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put Huggle on a flash drive, delete all other traces from my computer, lock up the drive, and swallow the key. (Ok, not that elaborate, but, you get the picture.) In other words, I am going to see how bad my writing truly is how much content I can churn out this winter. The Thing // Talk // Contribs 01:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making Halloween DYK-special

Thanks so much for putting together the Halloween DYK lists! That's real grunt-work, but it makes the whole project come together. Great work! - Tim1965 (talk) 01:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I noticed several of them were yours ;-) RlevseTalk 01:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]