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• EdwardsBot (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Reverting merge of Han-Nom

Hi Kauffner. There is no way you are allowed to do t↓hat repeatedly. I understand that you feel you're being treated unfairly and want a voice, but that is not the way. Perhaps dispute resolution? Itsmejudith (talk) 22:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Go take it AFD already. Kauffner (talk) 23:02, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to ask at ANI what should be done, because I don't think it's this. Itsmejudith (talk) 23:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I've been back again for advice since you re-created the article. I'm sad that you describe my action as "lies". No-one is "condemning" you for creating the article! It's collaborative editing. And many/most articles that are created fail to survive. Merger is often the best option. I created sheepwalk for example, but it isn't viable as an independent article and I will merge it into pasture. By the way, are you an editor at Voice of Vietnam? I knew others who were, but that was a very long time ago indeed. Itsmejudith (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I see you merged sheepwalk minutes after writing this post.[1] Where will the sheep walk now? Go ahead and recreate it. I know exactly what are doing because my mother does this too. But your sacrifice means nothing to me. Kauffner (talk) 08:39, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

If I sacrificed something, it wouldn't be sheep. Itsmejudith (talk) 11:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Insular Government of the Philippines Islands

Please take care in your changes "Insular Government of the Philippines Islands --> PhiIippine Islands -- long form is extremely rare" as some have been inaccurate. The "long form" may be rare, but it is precisely the form used in the cited sources. I have no problem with your change and links to the Insular Government article that explains things with one exception. That is where you have just put "Philippine Islands" in what was "Ship owner=Insular Government of the Philippine Islands" or the same with operator. In both cases the specific is "government" just as the owner/operator of a NOAA vessel is the U.S. Government and not just some general United States that can be confused with simple registry, local or state government ownership and operation and so on. In addition to just precise terms there are specific international legal ramifications to national government ownership of vessels. Try to "arrest" or "attach" a national vessel for debt and, even if you do not get missiles in response, you will have problems in international law. Palmeira (talk) 12:13, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I wrote something about this issue here. As near as I can tell, "Insular Government of the Philippine Islands" was strictly a U.S. Supreme Court usage, so I would be surprised if it appeared in any source dealing with ship owners or registries. Kauffner (talk) 12:46, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

The cited Report Of The Superintendent Of The Coast And Geodetic Survey . . . first uses "Philippine Commission" and, after that degree of self government came into being, occasionally uses the full formal term in the owner/operator context in dealing with both original acquisitions and transfers of ownership and operation. It much more commonly uses the simple "Philippine government" and less often "Insular Government" and thus I have absolutely no objection to your changes except that ownership/operation as government vessels needs to be clear.

"The Philippine constabulary guard with shore party of Hubert A. Paton. Off the Pathfinder", Philippines, 1926 from the Historic Coast & Geodetic Survey (C&GS) Collection, NOAA Photo Library.

As I noted above, there is a legal immunity aspect to national government ownership of vessels. Even if the "Insular Government of the Philippine Islands" was a colonial government that designation would be important in cases of dispute. For example, a coaling station over in Borneo would not be legally able to detain such a vessel and sell it for debt as it would some other Philippine vessel. In those days "big brother" in the form of a U.S. warship would likely show up with teeth bared if little Marinduque were so detained. That Insular Government got "National government" (the term those documents use to describe the U.S.Gov) protection by proxy so to speak. By the way, those vessels were often provided Philippine constabulary as armed protectors against everything from tribesmen to piracy in remote areas. Palmeira (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Man up

[2] There are women here too. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 13:21, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Kauffner reported by User:Gaijin42 (Result: ). Thank you. Gaijin42 (talk) 14:01, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for edit warring, as you did at Han-Nom. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Heimstern Läufer (talk) 14:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)