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August

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Sunflowers in Walsdorf

A first for me today: a featured list (= a featured topic in this case) on the Main page, see Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 August 21, an initiative by Aza24 in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: congratulations! Always a great feeling getting something up on the main page like that, and such a great topic too (not that I'm familiar with any of those operas... something to do in future!). Very nice to be remembering the late great Brian too and linking all his hard work into a featured topic. I should try for an FL and/or FT myself at some point, don't have any of those yet. All the best and hope you have a great weekend.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:17, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Today: Rhythm Is It! - I expanded that stub on my dad's birthday because we saw the film together back then, and were impressed. As a ref said: every educator should see it. Don't miss the trailer, for a starter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: thanks, I have just watched the trailer and read your article and it sounds like a fascinating film. I saw Simon Rattle many years ago, when he was still with the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra... I think the Rite of Spring may have featured in that concert as well... Great to see these kinds of events with young people as well!  — Amakuru (talk) 17:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Good close

Good close with an excellent summary at talk:climate change. Thank you. Guy (help! - typo?) 22:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

@JzG: thanks for your kind message! I half expected some objections to come through from those in opposition, but so far so good! Perhaps my summary was clear enough that it has been accepted all around... All the best  — Amakuru (talk) 22:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Amakuru, I think that when it's a close call and a contentious issue, explaining your rationale clearly is a great idea - and I think that is why you've not had pushback (so far...). This is how Wikipedia should be done, and I think your explanation was exemplary. Guy (help! - typo?) 23:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Amakuru, Likewise, thank you for executing our move proposal! This has been going in circles for years. It's important that you got this done now in particular as User:Femkemilene is working towards featured article status. It's a classic scenario where the half of people opposing the move mostly had different objectives. It was just down to somebody taking action based on the logic of the move instead of waiting for consensus, which is hard to do. You did and explained yourself well, so thanks! Efbrazil (talk) 19:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

The portal Portal:Global warming needs to be similarly renamed to Portal:Climate change. I put in a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Just a heads up in case you want run with that too! Efbrazil (talk) 17:55, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Giorgio Marchetti

Hi "Amakura", [[1]] is the link to where I got GM's pic from. Thegameshowlad (talk) 15:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@Amakura, @Ser Amantio di Nicolao Here it is, you can have a look at it and tell me what you think, remember to ping me as I may not see it. Thegameshowlad (talk) 15:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to move it back to draft space as no one fully reviewed it. By your own statement here, he might not be "famous" or notable enough for an article. only (talk) 16:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

He is as he has worked at Uefa for YEARS, it is better to have that than not. Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:11, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Talk:My Michael (novel)#Requested move 16 August 2020

Hi, I requested this move a week ago. It looks like this is about all the response we're going to get. Would you be able to handle the move request? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah: OK, I've closed it as moved, consensus seems clear. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 13:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 13:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

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Close

"The result of the move request was: Not moved. There are more opposes than supports, and they cite the observation that the subject is commonly known in English without the diacritics. Some supporters pointed out that she uses it on her social media sites, but then others were identified that do not use it, so the MOS:IDENTITY argument is somewhat weak. Overall there is a rough consensus against moving at this time. — Amakuru (talk) 16:26, 1 September 2020 (UTC)"

Hi, I'm sorry, but "There are more opposes than supports"? There will always be more opposes than supports for Ana Ivanovic. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:01, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: well, if there are always more opposes than supports, then that's a pretty good indication that editors in general don't think it's a good idea to move the page. As required when assessing WP:CONSENSUS, I have not just counted heads but examined the arguments too, but it's hard to make a case that either of the two points of view is emphatically right or emphatically wrong and in this case the oppose arguments appeared somewhat stronger. Ivanovic is a former world no. 1 tennis player, with vast reams of English-language coverage, and overwhelmingly, it does not use the diacritic. Her own usage doesn't make it clear that she uses one when writing in English either. Of course it wouldn't really be emphatically wrong to use the diacritic, since it features in the original Serbian when written in Latin alphabet. But like Novak Djokovic, you can't really ignore common usage to that extent. And in the end, it's up to individual editors to give their reasoned arguments, which they did. cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:33, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: as I noted at the time, IAR vs MOS vs CONSENSUS. Time to drop the stick for another year or two. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:58, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Amakuru, thanks for taking the trouble to reply. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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Murder in Missisippi

Its interesting the point about the fact that we don't have articles or redirects for most "real" places, I'm assuming the point you made about us not having "Murder of X" articles or redirects was a reference to my point regarding Murder in England? I would note that the point about not having other articles/redirects might actually show that we need to change this (WP:OTHERSTUFF) but in this case you (and others) made a good point that the film gets more views than the entire crime article. If I look at the other titled with the prefix "Murder in" a quick look shows things like Murder in Amsterdam, Murder in Canton and Murder in Soho (and several others and yes Murder in London is also a red link) that correspond to real locations but go to media (not counting things like Murder in Tarsis where Tarsis doesn't exist) the 1st has a hatnote to the general meaning but the other 2 don't. Then there are a few redirects such as Murder in Beverly Hills, Murder in New Hampshire (which has only had 47 views[[2]] from its created over 2 years ago) and Murder in Manhattan that also redirect to media (again with no hatnotes). No sign of things like Murder in Ohio and Murder in Massachusetts etc. There is also Murder in the Second Degree that is a DIFFCAPS case to Murder in the second degree. The only redirects that I can see that do go to the general meaning are Murder in Canada and Murder in the United States which do not see many views[[3]]. I think the main counter point is that when you put a term into the search box that doesn't have an exact match (or none at all) you get presented with search results (or taken to the correct capitalization[4]) while all this is lost of there's an article. For example if I search for "Murder in England" I get taken to the search results at the 1st results are Murder in English law, Murder of Sarah Payne and Murder. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:20, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for 2018 EFL League Two play-off Final

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September

Thank you for another good one! - Every once in a while, I have a TFA, happy that it was also a tribute to Brian, in great collaboration, fine Main page, and see also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks, Gerda, although in fact this one was penned mostly by our mutual friend TRM, with just a bit of input from myself for a few paragraphs. I learned the art and created 2017 EFL Trophy Final as a solo job, which reminds me I should DYK that before the week is out. Happy to see Mr Boulton's work at TFA too. I think one of my Rwandan topics is coming up there on 1 October, so watch this space!  — Amakuru (talk) 15:41, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I watch the TFA daily, DYK? I plan to nominate Carmen next, of Brian's TFAs to be rerun. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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Ainu

Please don't disrupt the articles. You have a long history of reverting the consensuses that others arrive at. (E.g. because "Ainuic" is not a common word, you should be able to do whatever you want instead.) The consensus is clearly against you, as the only non-IP in favor of the merge. If you want to change the names, that's fine -- I'd be fine with "Ainu language" for the Hokkaido language and "Ainu languages" for the family. But conflating the language with the family is POV and disruptive. — kwami (talk) 03:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)