Talk:The X Factor (American TV series)

The X Factor (USA) versus The X Factor (United States) versus The X Factor (U.S.)

It may not be a very urgent matter, some might even turn it down as trivial, except that it isn't trivial at all as this page will stay for very long time and a lot of pages will be added in similar fashion as seasons are added. So surely when we start a page, we better start it right and sticking to standard presentations particularly to a page that will be visited a lot. X Factor main article of the UK version sets a wonderful example of simplicity and correctness. It says The X Factor (UK). So when a page was created with The X Factor (United States) this came to me seemed as very odd as it didn't stick to the same simplicity, let alone that the name of the country is not the United States but the "United States of America" (USA for short not U.S.A. nor U.S.). I opted for sticking to the same formuls UK vs USA and tried to move the page to The X Factor (USA), but this was not possible due to a page already existing in that name, and it didn't allow me to do the move. So I copy/pasted the materials of The X Factor (United States) manually and created a redirect as there was no other choice. As to keeping the history of earlier edits by making copy paste, well the page was one or two days old anyhow and it was poorly written and full of just speculation and need quite a lot of development in all cases. Now, I see a third page has been intoduced with The X Factor (U.S.) which is worse of all scenarios: (1) It is not the official name of the country anyhow which is the United States of America not the United States (2) It is not in line with the standard "X Factor (UK)" or else we would have had The X Factor (U.K.) like we have now in this suggested page that I have reservations to, same as we wouldn't have U.A.E. but UAE and not U.S.S.R. but USSR, KSA for Kingdom of Saudi Arabia not K.S.A. etc... Usually dots are avoided in names of countries and also names of organizations like UNICEF UNRWA ASEAN FIFA etc (3): By the extra dots introduced, we are making it so difficult and adding an unnecessary layer we don't really need to and esthetic-wise it is terribly ugly. Throughout Wikipedia USA is used for America, rarely U.S. So this move to The X Factor (U.S.) is highly undesirable to say the least. I am requesting a discussion and possible moving back to The X Factor (USA) werldwayd (talk) 18:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be changed to X Factor (US). Both in the media and wider cultural society America is often referred to as the US. It is best to be consistant. After all you wouldn't say its the USA version of The X Factor, you would however say its the US version. Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

"US" is British English. "U.S." is American English. American English should be used for this article. I checked several other articles for US shows when there is a UK equivalent before I moved the page, and they all use (U.S.) or (U.S. TV series). Since The X Factor articles don't use the "TV series" part, I just used "U.S.". AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

In that case i agree with AnemoneProjectors... i checked the same and came to the same conclusion. Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Since this is the united states verison, let it be list as The X Factor USA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Only if it is called The X Factor USA. If it is just called The X Factor, then it should be located at The X Factor (U.S.). AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I understand it is only called the x factor (all the verison are) but since this is the usa verison lets link it to the x factor (usa).--Cooly123 00:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

You mean it should be at The X Factor (USA) and not The X Factor (U.S.)? Well, I gave my reason for using U.S. and not USA – because other articles use U.S. and not USA. Examples: The Apprentice (U.S. TV series), The Office (U.S. TV series), Hell's Kitchen (U.S.). So using USA instead of U.S. would be wrong. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

David Foster

With his experience in the music industry has he even been mentioned as a possible judge?--Cooly123 16:32, 30 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

So has Kelly Rowland on many many MANY interviews. She confirmed she met with Simone and the spoke about it. She was asked not long ago and just said, Maybe while laughing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.189.19 (talk) 01:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Presenters

Recent development pointing towards Cat Deeley presenting Xtra Factor, with Dermot O'Leary hosting the main show: [1] and [2] – Wiki edit Jonny (talk) 12:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

With the time scale of the show not being due to air for another year i think that we're best off waiting for official announcements. Although i must say that the mirror usuallys gets its reports right but it is a tabloid so we have to take things with pinch of salt. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 13:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Too early to create this page

I think it's too early to create this page, this programme will start in a year and half..in my opinion it should become a redirect to the x factor page. ׺°”˜`”°º×ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 11:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it passes WP:GNG. A redirect would mean all the information given here would be lost. AnemoneProjectors 12:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I think its notable because it is the reason that Simon Cowell left American Idol and its attracted lots of media attention. The sourcing here is good. And when more firm information is available many of the rumours, speculation and early reports will be pruned back to be given less prevelance. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 13:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

And the informations you can put them in the x factor page, it's like when you write the pages about albums: i think on the english wikipedia they are written too early, a couple of months ago, when they don't even have the title/release date/tracks listing (like the Kety Perry's 2010 album), for this page we can wait till 2011, like for the albums till everything's confirmed or like 2 weeks or 1 week before the release date׺°”˜`”°º×ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 20:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

An album is quite different - it has its own notability criteria at WP:NALBUMS. Comparing this to other articles which exist is exactly what WP:Other stuff exists advises people to avoid. Notability is judged by the relevant criteria (WP:GNG) and on an individual case specific to each individual article under scrutiny. Regards, although for the record i agree with you about albums/songs being made too early. Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes i just said this because the english wikipedia is a lot different by the italian one, and here you have different criterias....but its not a probblem for me, if this page passes the criterias, it can stay here, i just wanted to say that in my opinion it was too early, but thanks for having explained me all--׺°”˜`”°º×ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 11:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Worth A mention?

This article from Digital Spy reports that upon her impressive performance on the UK X Factor, Katy Perry has been offered one of the judging positions on the US panel. It also suggests that the format of the panel will be one Brit, One American, One person known globally and one authoritative male. Is it worth a mention or is it too speculative? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I did think it was too speculative but isn't a lot of the article already speculative? Just say that it was reported by the Daily Mirror. Though I did think Nicole Scherzinger was more likely to be offered it! AnemoneProjectors 23:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Ryan Tedder?

I just removed a section about The X Factor from Ryan Tedder's article because it was unreferenced. Are there any actual reports of this? AnemoneProjectors 21:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 80.194.164.134, 18 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Cheryl Cole and George Michael were confirmed as judges last night so put on the side judges, Simon Cowell, Cheryl Cole and George Michael

80.194.164.134 (talk) 10:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

 Not done - Most recent news says Cowell has dismissed those reports. --Funandtrvl (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 80.194.164.134, 18 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Cheryl Cole and George Michael were confirmed as judges last night so put on the side judges, Simon Cowell, Cheryl Cole and George Michael

80.194.164.134 (talk) 10:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

 Not done - see above --Funandtrvl (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Need to add a confirmed 'no'

I can't edit the article, but Katy Perry has confirmed she's not doing the US X Factor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuIBfhVYYt0 In fact, it's probably one of the most accurate yes or nos because she actually says it herself, haha. Speaking of which, according to Ryan Seacrest Simon is taking a break on purpose, but will be doing a big press release soon announcing everything. I don't have the article now, but if anyone would like I can find and post it later. ^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.71.198 (talk) 23:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Official US X Factor Twitter and Facebook Fanpage

Just found this today and definitely thought it was worth sharing. The official US X Factor Twitter and Facebook Fanpage: Twitter: http://twitter.com/TheXFactoronFOX Facebook Fanpage: http://www.facebook.com/TheXFactoronFOX

I'm so excited. (: Not only will we always be up-to-date thanks to these pages, but these pages are indeed official so they'll only have 100% accurate info. So in a way they're probably our best thing to stay up-to-date with since it'll all be true and important stuff. Way better than just constantly searching for a bunch of articles with almost nothing but rumors and unconfirmed information. Just thought it was worth sharing, and thought you guys might want to link to the two pages for other fans and as a way for everyone to stay updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.71.198 (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

But who says they're official? AnemoneProjectors 15:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

FOX does. They link them on their sub-site: www.fox.com/xfactor I actually added them to the article yesterday during some other additions I added, before these talk comments. As I see it, they should be currently allowed under external links per WP:ELPEREN since the show does not have much of an online presence at the moment. Sure it technically says "when the subject of the article has no other internet presence.", but I hardly call the sub-site by fox a full-fledged internet presence. At least yet. Greekboy (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the help GreekBoy! I really appreciate it. :) Sorry my reply is so late btw. :P

need for X Factor UK

Is there need to put the X Factor UK in See Also as they have the same name and the American X Factor will be as big as UK's X Factor

While that's most likely true, it's probably a good idea to keep it there since it'll help people new to the X Factor format see what the show's like. And X Factor UK is probably the one that'll be most like how the American one will be.

An additional bit of info needed?

I noticed you guys said "The format of the show differs from its rivals such as American Idol in a number of ways, chiefly as the competition is open to both solo artists and groups, as well as that the judges act as mentors to the final contestants." But should we also mention that the competition is not only open to both solo artists and groups, but people of all ages? Since that is a rule of the original and since it mentions that on the Fox page? And another thing possibly worth adding "Each judge is assigned a category—girls under 25, boys under 25, individuals over 25, and groups—that they place the finalists in after the audition process, in a phase known as "boot camp"." Although it has yet to be confirmed, on the original X Factor there is a "Boot Camp" stage and then a "Judges House" stage afterwards that help decide the finalists, and it will most likely be in the American version too. So should we still add it anyway? Or should we wait for confirmation?

More Confirmed 'Nos'

Christina Aguilera has been said to not be in talks to be a judge on the show after all. One source has said there is no truth to the rumors and another said that Christina is not a top contender to become one of the judges. http://www.misformusic.com/2011/01/christina-aguilera-us-x-factor-reports-denied/ http://www.digitalspy.com/ustv/s141/the-x-factor-us/news/a300399/aguilera-x-factor-report-denied.html?rss

Also, apparently Jessica Simpson has been rumored to have a role, but she confirmed that she will not be a judge on the show via her official Twitter. http://www.digitalspy.com/ustv/s141/the-x-factor-us/news/a301921/jessica-simpson-denies-x-factor-rumour.html

So we still have no idea on who will be on the panel besides Simon. He said, on January 27, 2011, that he plans to make an announcement in about 'two weeks' though, so hopefully he is telling the truth so all the tired speculation and rumors can end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slXsvT5To60 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.71.198 (talk) 19:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Official Press Release

http://www.facebook.com/notes/the-x-factor-on-fox/the-x-factor-have-you-got-it/124743657597609

http://foxallaccess.blogs.fox.com/2011/02/07/what-is-the-x-factor-simon-cowell-reveals-the-details/

Loads of information here to update the article with! Wiki edit Jonny (talk) 13:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Typo in Judges section

"Since then Cowell has indicated interest in a number of stars joing the show as have celebrities themselves."

Whoever wrote this has written "stars JOING", I assume that's supposed to say "stars JOINING"...

Done --MSalmon (talk) 14:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

References Needed And 'Fact' Needs To Be Changed Because of Non-Confirmed Info

"Entertainment Tonight co-anchor Nancy O'Dell is in the running to become the host of the US version." Reference please? I've looked online but can't seem to find anything. If we can't find anything saying this then I say we take it off until someone can give us an actual reference to look at.

"Japanese singer Hikaru Utada also known as "Utada" in the US , is also in the running to become a judge on the US version citing that her indefinite hiatus from her music career would generate an opportunity to commit to the program." Again, reference please? I also tried to look this up (since I'm actually kind of hoping this rumor is true, lol) but I can't seem to find anything besides the same line being on Utada Hikaru's own wiki page, and it's also un-referenced. So again, I say that unless someone gives us a reference we should remove both pieces of info until at least one article saying it can be given.

"Czech presenter and singer Leoš Mareš is also in the running to become the second male judge on the US version citing that he is compared to Simon Cowell with an arrogant personality and as well a successful music career in the Czech Republic." AGAIN, REFERENCE PLEASE? Preferably one in English too, unless someone is willing to translate a foreign article that says this. To be honest though I seriously doubt this since I also can't find it anywhere, and it seems too hard to believe. I wouldn't think anyone but mainly Americans (and maybe a few Brits if even that) would be considered for the show, and I think Simon would probably try to find people different from him so the panel isn't too similar. So again, unless someone can cough up some evidence on these three things then I say they need to be removed from this page, and from said person's said pages as well.

"Finally, on February 7th, 2011, Cheryl Cole was announced the second judge." Well, at least this one has a reference. But no, it's not confirmed officially yet. We can still leave it if people like, but I think we should change it to "On February 7th, 2011, Cheryl Cole was rumored to be confirmed as the official judge, although this still has yet to be confirmed." At least until either one of the official sites confirms it or Simon Cowell says it himself.

Official Websites For The X Factor (USA)

While the official page on Fox for The X Factor USA is still correct, I noticed we have the old Twitter page and the link to the Facebook fanpage incorrect. (it's a dead link) I also noticed we have some new sites now for the US X Factor, so I thought I'd include them here as well for us to add. First, the official website for it on Fox, just to double-check: http://thexfactor.blogs.fox.com/ Next, the actual Facebook Fanpage For The Show (confirmed on their Twitter, in case you're curious): http://www.facebook.com/#!/TheXFactorUSA Next, the new account on Twitter that The X Factor USA has moved to, and it is now official verified too so we know 100% it's the real deal: http://twitter.com/TheXFactorUSA Next, the official X Factor USA Youtube Page, also confirmed by their Twitter: http://www.youtube.com/TheXFactorUSA And lastly, the official X Factor USA Myspace Page, also confirmed by their Twitter: http://www.myspace.com/TheXFactorUSA

Errors To Correct

Hey, I noticed there are a few grammatically and spelling errors in a few parts of the articles, so I decided to quote them and then put how to fix them afterwards. Just to help make sure we have this article looking as neat as possible :)

"In the interview he did not confirm any of the new judges but said that Cole would be * good addition to the show, "I think she would be great over here - Cheryl's a star." " Needs an 'a' were the * is at. (don't worry, it wasn't there before, just putting it to show you were you need to add it ;) )

"Cowell expressed an interest in approaching Tommy Mottola, the former head of Sony Music Entertainment, (ex-husband of and the man who discovered Mariah Carey). " The part is parenthesizes should be changed to "ex-husband of Mariah Carey and also the man who discovered her." You could also change it and take away the comment after Entertainment and just have the rest of the sentence go "and the ex-husband of Mariah Carey. (and the man who discovered her) That'd fit better than just having the whole thing in parenthesizes for no reason. I dunno, I just think that sounds and looks better than (ex-husband of and the man who discovered Mariah Carey). Up to whoever reads this and edits the article though, lol.

"His former American Idol colleague Paula Abdul, was quickly linked to the role, as were his colleagues from the British X Factor, Louis Walsh and Cheryl Cole." Now this isn't so much a grammatical/spelling error as it is a factual one. Admittedly this is minor, but I think the last bit of the sentence should be changed to "as were two of his colleagues from the British X Factor, Louis Walsh and Chery Cole." It doesn't make too big of a difference, but the way it is it makes it seem as though those were the only other judges on that show besides Cowell, when there is actually four and one of them is Dannii Minogue.

"On February 6, 2011, it was reported by the News of the World that Cheryl Cole had signed a £10million contract to appear on the U.S. version of the show, though it was not officialy confirmed." 'Officialy' is actually spelled "officially", lol. I probably wouldn't have noticed that if not for Firefox.

"On February 8, 2011, reported by Daily Mail website that Simon Cowell seeks to find female judges as "cute" and as well particularly male judges as "unattractive" than Cowell, although those were determinations he would seek for in those judges on the US version." Wow, so much is wrong with this sentence it isn't even funny. I still have to lol though. But I think we should change this sentence to (or at least something along the lines of): "On February 8, 2011, Daily Mail reported that Simon Cowell hopes to find "cute" female judges and that the one of his qualifications for the other male judge on the show is that he should not be more "attractive" than Cowell." The sentence just flows so much better like that and makes so much more sense.

More Rumors To Add

Supposedly Simon Cowell wants Peter Dickson from the original UK X Factor to be the voiceover guy for the American show as well. http://www.digitalspy.com/ustv/s141/the-x-factor-us/news/a302818/cowell-wants-dickson-for-x-factor-usa.html

I hope that's true actually since I love that guy's voice and he'd be perfect for the show.

Also, this isn't really a rumor or confirmation that she'll be on the show, but I think we should change the line "Cowell's close friend Sinitta, confirmed lots of people had expressed interest in the show including Mariah Carey." to "Cowell's close friend Sinitta, confirmed lots of people had expressed interest in the show including Mariah Carey, and even herself if the opportunity arises." The reason I say that is because in this clip here (and yes, you actually here her say it herself) she says that "if they really wanted her to be a judge on the show she'd have to say yes", basically saying she'd love to do the show if they wouldn't mind to let her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naYmIWPRpmY

More Nos Confirmed

"Cowell has expressed great interest in having Barbadian pop superstar Rihanna be one of the four judges on the show." She's not confirmed to be a no yet, but you might want to add it seems unlikely as she'd probably be "too busy" for the show, especially with tour dates all throughout October-December which is when the live shows would air. http://www.omgmusic.com/news/rihanna-to-be-us-x-factor-judge and http://xfactorus.tv/rihanna-to-be-us-x-factor-judge/ It's also mentioned though that if she's too busy for a permanent role he might consider having her as a guest judge or a mentor at his judges house.

"Since then Will Smith, Mick Jagger and Noel Gallagher had all been linked to judges roles on the show. It has been reported that the show's producers are in talks with singer Christina Aguilera to become a permanent judge. " As we already know, Will Smith is still confirmed to be a no. In fact Simon even said that it was funny it came up because he hadn't even talked to him about it, lol. But Mick Jagger at long last has also been confirmed as a no http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0209/xfactor.html And it's somewhat jokingly so it may not count, but Simon has also said 'no' to Christina Aguilera being a judge on the show as well: http://www.taletela.com/news/4923/simon-cowell-christina-aguilera-performance-was-bad No mention of Noel Gallagher though (although I haven't really looked) so he might still be in the running. Who really knows at this point.

BootCamp And Judges House?

BootCamp and Judges House phases of the competition, which are on both the original UK X Factor and version of it all over the world, will be on the American X Factor as well. Here's two links about it here: http://thexfactor.blogs.fox.com/2011/01/07/pepsi-is-announced-as-the-official-sponsor-of-the-x-factor/ Bootcamp is confirmed here, specifically in the paragraph near the bottom which says: "Those contestants who survive the first auditions graduate to “boot camp” and will then be divided into four categories: girls under 25, boys under 25, individuals over 25 and groups. Each category will be mentored by one of the show’s judges, including the inimitable Cowell. The contestants will be put through the paces and mercilessly whittled down until the top acts remain." The second part of it also kind of hints at the Judges House stage, but here's another article actually mentioning the judges house phase here: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20464443,00.html mainly in this sentence here: On X-Factor" competitors will make home visits to the judges during the evaluation process and perform in front of live audiences of several thousand right from the start to see "who can handle the pressure," adds Cowell." There was a third and final link I was going to include that completely confirmed the Judges House round and even had Simon talking all about it in a radio teleconference with TMZ but TMZ still has yet to re-upload the video sadly, so I can't give it as a reference. (at least not right now, but hopefully they will soon) Sadly I didn't catch all of it either since it was live and I only caught the last few questions of it, so I might be missing some details, but since those two rounds are still confirmed I believe we should add them in. It just doesn't look right to just have Auditions and then Live Shows, because we know the show won't work that quickly, lol.

For starters I think we should edit this quote right here: "Each judge is assigned a category—girls under 25, boys under 25, individuals over 25, and groups—that they place the finalists in after the audition process. Through the live shows, the judges act as mentors to the contestants helping decide song choices and styling." and change it into "After the audition process, the show goes through a phase called Bootcamp, similar to Hollywood Week on American Idol, where the judges work together on bringing the number of contestants down into a small group of finalists, with an equal number from each of the four categories. After that each judge is assigned a category out of the following categories -- girls under 25, boys under 25, individuals over 25, and groups, and the judges further eliminates contestants in their category in a phase known as "Judges House", until they have the finalists for the live shows. Then from the live shows onward, the judges act as mentors to the contestants helping decide song choices and styling." or something similar. Until we get more info we can use info on the BootCamp and Judges House phases from the British X Factor article as our guide. Speaking of which, in the Format section, I think we should also have sections for BootCamp and Judges House as well. We know they exist and we have enough info about what they'll be like and what order they'll go in from the original British show. Auditions will still stay first under the format section, BootCamp can go after since it'll be second, then Judges House will be after Bootcamp, and then the Live Shows section can be last, since that's most likely how the show will go down. I get wanting confirmation on everything but I think the fact that we know that they same phases will exist and what the show is based on I think it'll be fine to put it for now, because we can always change anything later if necessary.

Cheryl Cole

Cheryl Cole has not been confirmed as a judge on The X Factor US http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/226594-simon-cowell-has-not-confirmed-cheryls-x-factor-usa-job/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.120.112 (talk) 15:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Updated History Section

We should put the superbowl comericials on here, 1st being glass shards of x's forming Simon Cowell body than saying he's back, 2nd being a group of musicians christina aggulara, justin beeber, pussycat dolls, lady gaga, black eyed peas saying (He has it, she has it, they have it,) do you have it?.--Cooly123 23:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Not To Sound Rude But...

Did anyone read all my new suggestions here? I know I posted a lot, and that you guys even did some and I really appreciate it, but I still have some others I'd like done, or at least a reply as to why they weren't done if someone who can edit the article doesn't mind. Like # 17, # 18, # 20 and # 21 especially I thought were all pretty good things to update and add. But maybe that's just me.

Also, out of curiosity, is there a way to become one of the people allowed to edit this article? I promise I wouldn't put any false information or info without references or anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.71.198 (talk) 16:27, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you can create an account. But you'll have to wait 4 days and make 10 edits first. –anemoneprojectors– 17:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Already had an account for over 4 days and had almost made 10 edits, so I went ahead and finished making enough and went in and fixed and added almost all my edits. Thanks again for telling me what I needed to do!~

Title change?

I was wondering, should we change this article's title to The X Factor (USA)? The reason I was wondering is because if you notice all the official sites say The X Factor USA, not U.S. I think it'd also look a bit better as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Dbad (talk • contribs) 11:29, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, the show is just called The X Factor, not The X Factor USA. We went with (U.S.) as a disambiguator based on other American TV show articles on Wikipedia. –anemoneprojectors– 12:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Logo image.

thumb|250px Can this article not just use the X-Factor logo from the original British Xfactor series rather than the low quality version currently used. The two are identical. I can understand why the British logo wasn't added before, but now we've seen that the US one will feature the same logo why does it need two images? thumb|left|250px Alexsau1991 (talk) 23:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

The UK article is displays a screenshot from the show. We do not know if the opening sequence of the US version will be the same, let alone how they plan to display the logo. Furthermore, if you size down the UK title card, you will notice that there are some minor differences with the US logo. The US logo seems to become more narrow at the top. Greekboy (talk) 00:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)