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1532 campaign

According to notes editted for the fifth campaign (1532) by Kebeta (who has also created the article Siege of Güns) Suleiman led an army to besiege Vienna. Ferdinand I withdrew his army, leaving only 700 men with no cannons and a few guns to defend Koszeg. After prolonged Siege of Güns (Köszeg), Suleiman withdrew and went homeward. However, this claim is not supported by my sources. So without any reference to Güns, I reeditted the note. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added references.--Kebeta (talk) 17:10, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty of Karlowitz

The contributions to this article (especially the sources and the images) are fine. Thanks. But we should be careful with the sources. They are not always reliable. For example the last sentence in the introduction (which is sourced) is clearly incorrect. It reads The stagnation lasted to the Treaty of Karlowitz in 1699, in which the Empire lost much of its European territory. (I have deleted this sentence on the ground that Treaty of Karlowitz has nothing to do with Suleiman, but my delete was immediately reverted.) Anyway, much of territory may imply most (more than 50 %). However, in any map, the Ottoman losses can be found to be about 20 % of the former territory. I didn't change the wording , but I'll call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:47, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 According to notes editted for the fifth campaign (1532) by [[User:Kebeta|Kebeta]]  (who has also created the article [[Siege of Güns]]) ''Suleiman led an army to besiege Vienna. Ferdinand I withdrew his army, leaving only 700 men with no cannons and a few guns to defend Koszeg. After prolonged Siege of Güns (Köszeg), Suleiman withdrew and went homeward''. However, this claim is not supported by my sources. So without any reference to Güns, I reeditted the note.  [[User:Nedim Ardoğa|Nedim Ardoğa]] ([[User talk:Nedim Ardoğa|talk]]) 13:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 :I added references.--[[User:Kebeta|Kebeta]] ([[User talk:Kebeta|talk]]) 17:10, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
+== Treaty of Karlowitz ==
+The contributions to this article (especially the sources and the images) are fine. Thanks. But we should be careful with the sources. They are not always reliable.  For example the last sentence in the introduction (which is sourced) is clearly incorrect. It reads ''The stagnation lasted to the [[Treaty of Karlowitz]] in 1699, in which the Empire lost much of its European territory''. (I have deleted this sentence on the ground that Treaty of Karlowitz has nothing to do with Suleiman, but my delete was immediately reverted.) Anyway, much of territory may imply most (more than 50 %).  However, in any map, the Ottoman losses can be found to be about 20  % of the former territory. I didn't change the wording , but I'll call the editor. [[User:Nedim Ardoğa|Nedim Ardoğa]] ([[User talk:Nedim Ardoğa|talk]]) 14:47, 15 March 2011 (UTC)