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:::Okay, let's [[WP:IAR|throw policy out of the window]] and focus on good old-fashioned common sense. Way back in the early days of WP, we decided that you shouldn't delete stuff without a discussion. So why do we have speedies? Well, it's because sometimes a deletion debate on things like "Susie is my pet cat. She is small, ginger and likes fish" is a complete waste of time. However, because you are short-circuiting the usual consensus process, you need to make sure what you are deleting is absolutely water-tight and beyond question. If you have any doubts whatsoever, kick it to a full discussion. Since the article is not (AFAIK) a blatant copyright violation, an attack page or vandalism, it will not hurt to leave it around for a few days - we're not exactly short of disk space. (I need to write myself an essay, I've said the preceding prose to I think 4 different editors now). [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 13:36, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Okay, let's [[WP:IAR|throw policy out of the window]] and focus on good old-fashioned common sense. Way back in the early days of WP, we decided that you shouldn't delete stuff without a discussion. So why do we have speedies? Well, it's because sometimes a deletion debate on things like "Susie is my pet cat. She is small, ginger and likes fish" is a complete waste of time. However, because you are short-circuiting the usual consensus process, you need to make sure what you are deleting is absolutely water-tight and beyond question. If you have any doubts whatsoever, kick it to a full discussion. Since the article is not (AFAIK) a blatant copyright violation, an attack page or vandalism, it will not hurt to leave it around for a few days - we're not exactly short of disk space. (I need to write myself an essay, I've said the preceding prose to I think 4 different editors now). [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 13:36, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
::::If it is your opinion that this is the case, and the criteria of {{tq|Has received coverage of any kind in possibly reliable sources}} should be added to A7, that is a perfectly reasonable argument to seek consensus on at [[WT:CSD]], and your rationale above may be a perfectly solid one for supporting it. But currently, having sources with no credible claim of significance still qualifies, in the same manner that making a credible claim of significance with no sources is still disqualifying. Having had this discussion with four different editors may be an indication that your current interpretation of policy is out of line what guidance policy actually gives. [[User:Timothyjosephwood|<span style="color:#a56d3f;font-family:Impact;">Timothy</span><span style="color:#6f3800;font-family:Impact;">Joseph</span><span style="color:#422501;font-family:Impact;">Wood</span>]] 13:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
::::If it is your opinion that this is the case, and the criteria of {{tq|Has received coverage of any kind in possibly reliable sources}} should be added to A7, that is a perfectly reasonable argument to seek consensus on at [[WT:CSD]], and your rationale above may be a perfectly solid one for supporting it. But currently, having sources with no credible claim of significance still qualifies, in the same manner that making a credible claim of significance with no sources is still disqualifying. Having had this discussion with four different editors may be an indication that your current interpretation of policy is out of line what guidance policy actually gives. [[User:Timothyjosephwood|<span style="color:#a56d3f;font-family:Impact;">Timothy</span><span style="color:#6f3800;font-family:Impact;">Joseph</span><span style="color:#422501;font-family:Impact;">Wood</span>]] 13:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll go through [[CAT:CSD]] and delete everything per [[WP:CSD#A7]] and tell all the article creators to fuck off to Facebook. Thanks for the advice! [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 13:54, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Revision as of 13:54, 1 March 2017

Keeping an eye on stuff. Meanwhile, here is some music.


Draft:Samuel Neaman Institute

Hi. I see that there was a potential copyright infringement in one section of my draft article. In order that I can re-work it to avoid the infringement, please can you restore it in a place where I can rework it? Thanks Samuel Neaman Institute draft Golan789 (talk) 13:58, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Golan789: The easiest thing for me to do is to email the text to you. You can then add portions of it back into the draft at your own pace. You may find it useful to install User:The Earwig/copyvios.js into Special:MyPage/vector.js (please let me know if you need help with this), which gives you a "Copyvio check" menu option, making it easy to see if you are close-copying too much of the original prose. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Ritchie333: Regarding that copyright check tool, could you help me with that? i tried putting it into Special:MyPage/vector.js but I didn't see any "Copyvio check" menu. thank you.--Golan789 (talk) 13:46, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Golan789: It might not be called that - the actual file is dependent on what skin you are using, which you can find at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. You then need to go to Special:MyPage/{name of skin}.js - most people have Vector, so it's vector.js, but some old fogeys like me still use MonoBook, in which case it's monobook.js Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:26, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This page was undeleted so that it could be discussed at my RFA, I'm thinking it should now be returned to the dumpster, but if I did it some might think it a bit pointy. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:01, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dodger67: I think the best thing to do is send it to MfD. I did this with Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:AceOfSpades14/sandbox. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:02, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I think I will approach the editor who undeleted it. I'm treading softly as a newbie admin. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter - February 2017

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Arbitration

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13:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - Round 3

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016 GA Cup - Round 3

Hello, GA Cup competitors!

Sunday saw the end of Round 2. Shearonink took out Round 2 with an amazing score of 499. In second place, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga earned an astounding 236 points, and in third place, Cartoon network freak received 136 points. Originally, we had plans for one wild card for 9th place, however it appears that both Chris troutman and J Milburn were tied for 9th place. Therefore, we have decided to have both advance to Round 3.

In Round 2, 91 reviews were completed! At the beginning of this GA Cup, the longest wait was over 7 months; at the end of Round 2, the longest wait had decreased to a little over 6 months. It's clear that we continue to make a difference at GAN and throughout Wikipedia, something we should all be proud of. Thanks to all our competitors for helping to make the GA Cup a continued success, and for your part in helping other editors improve articles. We hope to see all remaining users fighting it out in Round 3 so we can keep decreasing the backlog.

To qualify for the third round, contestants had to earn the two highest scores in each of the four pools in Round 2; plus, one wildcard. For Round 3, users were placed in 3 random pools of 3. To qualify for the Final of the 3rd Annual GA Cup, the top user in each pool will progress, and there will also be one wildcard. This means that the participant who comes in 4th place (all pools combined) will also move on. Round 3 has already started and will end on February 26 at 23:59:59 UTC. Information about Round 3 and the pools can be found here.

Also, we'd like to announce the departure of judge Zwerg Nase. We thank him for all his hardwork and hope to see him back in the future.

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Your GA nomination of Regent Street

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Regent Street you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kees08 -- Kees08 (talk) 03:40, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Great Marlborough Street

The article Great Marlborough Street you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Great Marlborough Street for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kees08 -- Kees08 (talk) 14:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Filthy Frank for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Filthy Frank is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Filthy Frank (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@KATMAKROFAN: I've already deleted this article once. Jeez, make your mind up. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:27, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) I see it has been speedy kept. FYI, AfD nominations without sufficient WP:BEFORE are a growing concern with this editor; also @ Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Rose de Viterbo Catholic Church. Not counting the spurious SPIs, lack of communication or acknowledgement, and general biteyness. If that's a word :) O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 21:40, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I've snow closed that. I'll have a word. If that doesn't work, we'll see what his unblock request writing skills are like. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't looked at the actual user page, either: you were rather on the nose with that one! I think they've got potential as an editor, especially in basic anti-vandalism, etc., but tends towards adminstrative and authorative areas (you noticed, then!) anyway thanks for handling that. O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 22:07, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello Ritchie333,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 822 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.


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Your GA nomination of Regent Street

The article Regent Street you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Regent Street for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kees08 -- Kees08 (talk) 21:20, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SMILE!

Your GA nomination of Regent Street

The article Regent Street you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Regent Street for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kees08 -- Kees08 (talk) 04:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kees08: Thanks for the review! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome. I just started reviewing transportation articles, so thanks for bearing through me figuring out how those are reviewed. Thanks for bearing through the image PD question too, trying to make sure I understand all the things I am supposed to be reviewing. Nice article, I am sure I will see plenty more from you! Kees08 (talk) 15:35, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

David Morris

Thanks for the revert on David Morris (Conservative politician). I was doing a mass-rollback of unconstructive edits from someone trying to purge the DM. I thought I did only the ref-to-CN removals, but I apparently missed one. Primefac (talk) 17:14, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: I realise quoting Jimbo Wales is controversial, but I agree with his widely-quoted view that "Pseudo information should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced". So replacing Daily Mail citations with {{fact}} is a problem for this very reason, but so is reverting the source to the Mail back in! If the source can't be replaced quickly, get rid of the information per WP:BLP if you possibly can. There has been a lot of talk both on and off-wiki of removing citations to the Daily Mail where appropriate, but my personal log of BLPs citing the Mail is staying pretty static. In the case of David Morris, the expenses scandal is picked up by other sources, so we can use that, but the follow-on article appears to be only in the Mail and of too specific interest to really be relevant, in my view. While MPs are all high-profile individuals in the public eye, we should take extra care not to turn their articles into things like this. The Mail is far from the only offender - we still have 100+ BLPs that cite The Sun - and I personally think a total ban was a step too far, but getting it out of BLPs can only be a good thing. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Enemies of the People

On 21 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Enemies of the People, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that over 1,000 people complained when the Daily Mail called three High Court judges "enemies of the people"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Enemies of the People. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Enemies of the People), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review - newsletter No.3

Hello Ritchie333,

Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 822 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.


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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Marshlink Line you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Shearonink -- Shearonink (talk) 07:01, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Wright

Please get familiar with policies before reverting. The WP:QUOTENAME guideline justifies my edit. – Sabbatino (talk) 15:35, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Sabbatino: Why does it, and what material difference does it make to the end reader? In fact, the article as it stood adhered perfectly to the guideline (not absolute dogma) mentioned in WP:QUOTENAME, so you are edit-warring over something cosmetic and pointless. I see from your talk page this is far from the first time you have been in hot lather, so may I suggest taking a deep breath and realising that some hills are not worth dying on. Have a nice day. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:45, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's funny that you write "mos" as your edit summary, but when I give you THAT MoS section, you suddenly change your tone to "not needed". Please make up your mind – are you following the MoS or don't. As for edit-warring, I'm not doing that at the moment and there's nothing about that on my talk page aside from ANI notice, which was brought up, because someone completely misunderstood me, but that's none of your business. – Sabbatino (talk) 06:19, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that's fine, I'll write the article as requested in the below thread, you just waste time moaning about inconsequential edits. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:59, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rhondda by-pass

Two flakes please, Dai.

Hi, when you've finished battling idiots, any chance you could create an article on the Rhondda by-pass? here. There's some notable bridges built too which are missing I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Blofeld: Bore da, that's done. Personally I think the Rhondda is best admired from a distance, such as one of the laybys on the A4061 (provided your ice cream doesn't get accidentally consumed by a passing sheep). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:21, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nice one. I wasn't sure if it was already part of a road article on here. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:41, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't look like it, I think the mountain roads are obviously notable because of the engineering / unemployment relief, the urban streets just sprung up to accommodate miners and are nothing specific beyond a cursory mention in the history of the area, while this is something different altogether. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:01, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
...and they said we didn't give a toss about article quality - pah!
Hey, stop shroving! –EEng

Does this now pass muster? We hope (talk) 19:26, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just a couple of unsourced paragraphs, and then we're done. Cheers for helping out! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:45, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
... and now we're all done. Hurrah - extra lemon all round! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:55, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Spam?

Why did you remove my question as spam? I just asked for help with the wizard. 208.95.51.115 (talk) 13:59, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The "spam" was the, er, spam in the section above yours, which was what I meant to remove. I've restored your bit. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just going to point out that having sources is not a valid reason for declining an A7, especially when one is merely an acknowledgement and the other is basically social media puff. Working on two web comics and being an intern for iTunes does not constitute a claim of significance; that constitutes a job. TimothyJosephWood 13:25, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:A7M#CI, it is a valid reason. It's not a valid reason to !vote "keep" at AfD though, which is why I recommended a full discussion be raised there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:27, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Essay != Policy, especially not one written almost entirely by a single editor, which is, on its face, contrary to or entirely beyond the standards established in the relevant policy. TimothyJosephWood 13:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, let's throw policy out of the window and focus on good old-fashioned common sense. Way back in the early days of WP, we decided that you shouldn't delete stuff without a discussion. So why do we have speedies? Well, it's because sometimes a deletion debate on things like "Susie is my pet cat. She is small, ginger and likes fish" is a complete waste of time. However, because you are short-circuiting the usual consensus process, you need to make sure what you are deleting is absolutely water-tight and beyond question. If you have any doubts whatsoever, kick it to a full discussion. Since the article is not (AFAIK) a blatant copyright violation, an attack page or vandalism, it will not hurt to leave it around for a few days - we're not exactly short of disk space. (I need to write myself an essay, I've said the preceding prose to I think 4 different editors now). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:36, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it is your opinion that this is the case, and the criteria of Has received coverage of any kind in possibly reliable sources should be added to A7, that is a perfectly reasonable argument to seek consensus on at WT:CSD, and your rationale above may be a perfectly solid one for supporting it. But currently, having sources with no credible claim of significance still qualifies, in the same manner that making a credible claim of significance with no sources is still disqualifying. Having had this discussion with four different editors may be an indication that your current interpretation of policy is out of line what guidance policy actually gives. TimothyJosephWood 13:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll go through CAT:CSD and delete everything per WP:CSD#A7 and tell all the article creators to fuck off to Facebook. Thanks for the advice! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:54, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]