Talk:Mormonism

Revising article name

The Church has recently put out a statement asking to be referred to as its full name- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- instead of the nickname "Mormons" or "Mormonism". In relation to this article, their style guide says: "The term "Mormonism" is inaccurate and should not be used. When describing the combination of doctrine, culture and lifestyle unique to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the term "the restored gospel of Jesus Christ" is accurate and preferred."[1] Would it be okay to proceed with a name change, or would an RfC be required? Audrey (talk) 01:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

@Audrey: Replied here ~Awilley (talk) 02:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS Church) has its own Wikipedia page. The LDS Church is actually one of many sects under the larger umbrella of Mormonism, so Mormonism isn’t a specific church, it’s a theology. Both topics are distinctive enough and notable enough in their own right to merit separate articles on Wikipedia. I hope this helps you understand. Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 12:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

I hope we change the name. This is not about not "understanding." IT has to do with using a slang term that is offensive to many people. I don't think there's any such thing as "Mormonism" outside of Wikipedia. As to the term applying to other churches besides the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you are right, but there is no church that falls under your category of "Mormonism" that does not believe in 3 Nephi 27:8 and D&C 115, which details the proper term. CsikosLo (talk) 17:43, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Churches such as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can call themselves what they want, but the term Mormonism doesn't refer to any particular church, including that one. It's a widely-used term that refers to a broad religious tradition. Many who practice Mormonism aren't even members of any particular church. So regardless of the preference of that organization, I don't see the term Mormonism going out of use any time soon. Besides, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, on its website, recognizes that the word Mormonism is "a common term used to describe the teachings and doctrine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." [2] COGDEN 19:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Mormonism in the above context is not substantially different from the Latter Day Saint Movement, is frankly archaic, and needs to be merged into it. DavidBailey (talk) 19:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Mormonism is a religious tradition and theology flowing from the Book of Mormon and should not be merged with the article on the LDS movement, which is about the various sects that follow it. Jonathunder (talk) 23:16, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the actual content of the page doesn't reflect that. The article uses the word Mormons frequently, which can be confusing. It talks about their (our, I'm a member) practices and history. The article states "The LDS church believes" on a number of occasions too, and confusingly uses the term "Mormon scripture". I do see this article as a useful place for summarizing the doctrine and then comparing doctrinal differences between different groups in the LDS Restorationalist movement. However, as it stands now the article is confusing and uses the term Mormon in ways that members of those churches would disagree with. Ph03n1x77 (talk) 17:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2019

Please update references to "the LDS Church" to "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" according to the official Style Guide of the Church (see https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/style-guide). Msheets1 (talk) 06:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Article appears to comply with MOS:LDS in this regard. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 13:52, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Infobox

Came here to see the number of Mormons in the world, did the same thing I do when I check a wiki article for similar information and took a quick look to the right and saw there was no infobox. WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS? I know there's a number of editors who have an irrational hatred of infoboxes for some insane reason, but non-infobox articles are usually limited to articles most people don't care about, or a collection of articles of historical figures that these nutbag infobox-hating editors have gotten there claws on and clamp down on like a vice. There's no excuse for an article as big as this to have the same problem. FIX IT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:7178:C500:BDE8:E4A1:261D:189A (talk) 09:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind I just saw the article of "Mormons", which has the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:7178:C500:BDE8:E4A1:261D:189A (talk) 10:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2020

Request that the authors meet the official style guide for using the name of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (see https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/style-guide). Carrollewis (talk) 15:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Hello Carrollewis, please see our guideline on this. If you see a particular instance in this article that violates this guideline, feel free to re-open this request. aboideau^talk 16:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2020

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not want to be identified as "Mormonism," a pejorative term that does not emphasize the name of Jesus Christ, an integral part of the faith. Although many people still identify the Church as "Mormonism," a minor but significant change should be made on the page "Category:Nontrinitarian denominations." In the section entitled "Subcategories," the Church is correctly listed as "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," but in the section below that, "Pages in category "Nontrinitarian denominations," the name is confusingly still listed as "Mormonism." I suggest that the name should be changed from "Mormonism" to "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)." Such a change may require changes to the page entitled "Mormonism," which is itself antiquated and should be edited. Ctblack (talk) 15:03, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. You seem to be referring to a category, which is an automatically generated page, not this article. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:16, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Related Request for Move (Jan 16)

A Request for Move on a relate article is backlogged and needs more participation. The proposal is to move Mormonism and Christianity → Mormonism and Nicene Christianity.

Please consider joining the discussion to help build consensus for or against the proposed move. If you are an uninvolved admin, please consider closing the RM. Thanks. JaredHWood💬 06:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)