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Category deletion

How are categories deleted? How is it possible on WP when it is not possible on Fandom wikis? Firestar464 (talk) 06:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Firestar464, I suspect it's possible on Fandom wikis. Maybe normal editors there don't have the power to delete them? Maproom (talk) 07:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

FANDOM user here! Categories are deleted by either removing themselves at the bottom of a page, or removing templates that adds them into the page, this was originally a question here, but the original poster seek further clarification here. I need to state this again, FANDOM and Wikipedia are different, especially because FANDOM uses an outdated version of MW and Wikipedia has it's own extensions. Cheers ~ Headquarter8302 a.k.a Mark 125.167.115.35 (talk) 07:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Maproom, I'm talking about admins there. Firestar464 (talk) 07:40, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Firestar464, then you should ask at Fandom. -- Hoary (talk) 07:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

The reason I'm asking here is that I'm wondering why admins here can delete categories when admins there can't. Firestar464 (talk) 07:49, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Different websites, different software. I don't think we can help you further. This page is for help with using and editing Wikipedia.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I'll ignore the "there", as Shantavira suggests. As for the "here" and the "why", categories need to be deleted, and I suppose that it was decided years ago that deleting them wasn't something so drastic that a mere administrator shouldn't be entrusted with it. For the "here" and the "how", when administrators view a category, one section of their menu, titled "Edit", lists four options, of which one is "Delete". Suppose I sleepily/drunkenly/stupidly delete a category. Doing this doesn't affect anything belonging to that category, other than changing the color of the link to the now-deleted category. I (or anyone else) can simply re-create the stupidly deleted category, whereupon everything works as it did before my stupid deletion. -- Hoary (talk) 09:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

So you're saying that if you drunkenly delete a cat and visit the link, there will be nothing in it? Firestar464 (talk) 10:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

For a certain value of "nothing", see for example Category:Wikipedians with red-linked categories on their user talk page. "Nothing" as in what you see when you visit a redlink. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: I'm not aware of any relevant technical differences between Wikipedia and Fandom in deleting categories. A page is removed from a category by removing the category code from the page. See Help:Category#Putting pages into categories. A category page is deleted by administrators like other pages. Pages will be shown in the category whether or not there is a category page. MediaWiki does not have a method to remove all pages from a category without editing them one at a time. The English Wikipedia has a bot which can be requested to remove a category from all the pages when the category is deleted. I don't know whether Fandom wikis have such bots. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I guess there's really no difference. Thanks for clarifying. How do admins take care of vandalism cats, I wonder? Firestar464 (talk) 01:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Them vandalism cats be uncool cats. To take care of them, admins let the dogs out. ... (But on the serious side, categories do seem to be well policed on WP, I just don’t know what tools are used to monitor them.) — Pelagic ( messages ) – (22:51 Tue 04, AEST) 12:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Keyboard shortcut to add a Template

Hi. Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the Template popup in the Visual and Source editors? I have searched everywhere but couldn't find anything. Is there any user contributed script? Opening the "Insert" and clicking on the "Template" is unfortunately time consuming[ for me]. Any help appreciated! (P. S. While writing replies, please ping me using the {{Ping|DaxServer}}) :) -- DaxServer (talk) 16:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@DaxServer: as far as I know there is no keyboard shortcut for templates as there are tons of templates on Wikipedia. The best way to do something involving templates would be to copy the source code of the template you want to use and then add it to the page. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf Thanks for the info! -- DaxServer (talk) 17:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, DaxServer,

Short answer: type {{.

Longer answer: in addition to keyboard combinations for formatting, like Ctrl+Shft+6 for code, VE and NWE also have keyboard sequences that pop up edit cards (or panels). Generally they are based on the corresponding wikitext, such as {{ [[ <pre <ref <math. (Other sequences effect formatting without popping up an specialised box, when typed at the beginning of a line: e.g. colon-space, ===, and asterisk-space create blockquote, heading, and bullet list respectively.)

Hope that helps! Pelagic ( messages ) – (18:27 Tue 04, AEST) 08:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Pelagic Thank you! These are what I am looking for. Could you also tell me how put the long-minus? I have been copy pasting it from other articles. If I could not find any, I am simply using the normal minus sign. -- DaxServer (talk) 10:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@DaxServer: There is/was a whole discussion going on at the Manual of Style about whether we should use {{ndash}}, – or just "–" (and similarly for mdash). In Visual Editor (desktop not mobile), there is an Ω button to insert symbols. It’s in the toolbar to the right of the "Insert" item. [ Pelagic ( messages ) – (06:57 Wed 05, AEST) 20:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Ask a question

 Viviana777 (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

No, you ask a question. max20characters 🇺🇸 19:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Max20characters: Teahouse is supposed to be friendly to new users. Please don't WP:BITE RudolfRed (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure if they were biting them or if they were attempting to be humorous. Either way it did come off as rude. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 19:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Viviana777: Welcome to Wikipedia. The Teahouse is for new users to ask questions. If you have a question, please let us know what it is. RudolfRed (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Nah, you ask one, Max! — Pelagic ( messages ) – (18:41 Tue 04, AEST) 08:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• @Viviana777, welcome to the Teahouse where you are free to ask any questions regarding editing here. As RudolfRed stated you are free to ask us here any questions. Forgive and disregard the snarky response you got from @Max20characters. Thank you. Celestina007 (talk) 00:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

New user

im new what do i do 2601:2C4:57F:ACA9:159:3436:5708:A847 (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Welcome! I suggest you read the WP:TUTORIAL for general guidance. If you want an idea of what exactly to edit, reply with some topics that interest you! AdmiralEek (talk) 21:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

A better alternative to that would be The Wikipedia Adventure which can help you a lot. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

My edits were deleted without explanation

I'm writing in regards to my edits on this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_fashion

I recently made an edit to the page explaining how non-fungible tokens(NFTs) are an important part to digital fashion. But I recently checked and saw that it was removed without explanation. I wrote it under the "Marketing, distribution, and sales" section, and here is the paragraph I wrote along with links to the articles I referenced:

"In recent years, artists in the digital fashion realm have used a non-fungible token (NFT) to represent, protect, and monetize their designs and works. Start-up companies like DIGITALAX have helped designers more easily collaborate and create digital materials, patterns, and fashion assets across gaming and virtual reality platforms.[4] Digital marketplaces that use NFTs like DIGITALAX also allow fractional garment ownership, helping all co-creators on a piece of a digital garment earn revenue and royalties from a sale.[5]"

[4] https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-protocol-brings-nonfungible-tokens-to-the-digital-fashion-industry [5] https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/why-digital-fashion-is-the-next-frontier-of-nfts-2021-04-07

Why was my edit removed? I felt that I was being objective in my writing and only included information with reliable sources.

Thank you, Nathannghiya (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Nathannghiya Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. An explanation was provided in the edit summary, "rm crypto sites, crypto site reprints". If crypto refers to cryptocurrencies, that is a tough area to edit in. Please see WP:GS/Crypto for more information. 331dot (talk) 22:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Your edit was removed by user:David Gerard with the explanation "rm crypto sites, crypto site reprints" If that explanation is not adequate then you should ask that user for clarification. Meters (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Nathannghiya, I think your paragraph looks good, except for the two unnecessary mentions of Digitalax, which make it come across as an advertisement. Maproom (talk) 07:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Review was very fast but Re-review seems stalled

I submitted an article back in December. The initial review was completed within a few hours and the article was rejected as being 'not encyclopedic'. This doesn't make sense since the event spanned nearly ten years and was covered extensively by many noteworthy sources (AP, UPI, NYT, Chicago Tribune, etc). I replied to the reviewer asking for clarification but never got a response.

I continued to improve the article and resubmitted it but there's been no further activity in almost five months. Is there anything further I can do or is it just a matter of waiting?

Draft is at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pesky_Pants

Thanks. Sliptonic (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sliptonic: I actually agree with Tagishsimon's judgement on this one. News coverage only means that a subject is presumed to be notable, but doesn't guarantee that an article is warranted (read the last point at WP:GNG). As per WP:NEVENT, we need some lasting significance after the event has ended to show that the subject is of encyclopedic value, and in this case, I don't really think that value is present here. For a similar case, read the closing statement for the AfD on Josh fight. Instead, consider adding a paragraph about this to Practical joke#Famous examples. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Reported about, but not encyclopedic. David notMD (talk) 02:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Just a lengthy, expensive and insignificant practical joke of ongoing interest to only two people. Editorial judgment is sometimes in short supply, but here's an example where "not encyclopedic" seems to be the wise conclusion. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. This article draft was prompted by continuing (recent) inquiries from other media sites like 'Futility Closet' and 'Today I learned' doing retrospective coverage of the story. There still seems to be interest but I understand the points you raise. Likewise, the List of practical joke topics contains many items that seem similarly trivial. e.g Black fax, Phoenix Five (prank), Henryk Batuta hoax. When does ongoing current interest warrant a stand-alone article? Sliptonic (talk) 03:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sliptonic: It's not really about how "current" the "interest" is. Instead, events should have a more meaningful impact than just "huh, that's funny". Newspapers will often report on trivial things like "man saves cat from river", but that doesn't make it Wikipedia-worthy. The line between trivial and encyclopedic is often abstract and blurry, which is why these decisions come down to the consensus of multiple editors. For your three other articles, see WP:OTHERSTUFF; the channel to decide if these subjects are article-worthy is individually at WP:AFD, but I suggest getting more Wikipedia experience first before heading there (FYI: I'd !vote keep on all three). ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Help me to pass the AFC. My page is translated from German.

Hello, admin Theroadislong has left a few comments on my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Peter_Philippe_Weiss.

I need help in improving this article, so it gets accepted. Can I ask the German editors/admins to share their opinions?

Thanks!!! Jiskofor (talk) 04:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jiskofor: I don't speak German, but I do a lot of translation from Chinese, and I can tell you that your draft needs to be written in a much more neutral tone, since right now it reads like an advertisement. It doesn't matter if the German article is written like this, since the two language Wikipedias have different policies and guidelines. As for sourcing, IMDb is unacceptable as a source (WP:IMDB). Instead, look for more reliable sources to back up your information and to show that the subject passes the notability guideline. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Jiskofor, three of the sections are unreferenced, and should be deleted if you can't find sources for them. The "Weblinks" section should be renamed to "External links". You should use English-style quotation marks "", instead of „“. Maproom (talk) 07:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Please note that if you translated it using a machine translation (i.e Google Translate) it will most likely not be accepted as they aren't very accurate. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help with my Draft article.

Hello, I had recently created an article, but it was nominated for deletion, which resulted it to be moved to Drafts. Now the admin has told me to improve the page and submit it.

I would like some help, as in to what can be improved. I will submit it when it has been improved. I have tried getting more references, but James Colistro is very old and not much is available of him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:James_Colistro

Thank you. Ngyundynasty (talk) 04:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ngyundynasty: You need to look harder to find these references. IMDb is not considered a reliable source (see WP:IMDB). Ideally, we want at least one reference for every paragraph, cited to a reliable source. Also, a large portion of the prose also reads like a promotion instead of presenting information from a neutral point of view. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ngyundynasty: I did a quick Google search and found a few links about Pinwheel, but nothing that suggests Colistro meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. See WP:GNG. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

No personal information area for French emperors.

Hi! Although I have edited 25+ articles, I still have problem with the main template with personal information. I was reading about French Revolution recently and I noticed that kings like Louis XVI or Louis XV etc., there is not *Heading of personal information there. Since I don't know how to edit it, can someone help me with that? Rakm11 (talk) 04:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Rakm11: I'm sorry, but I don't know which "heading" or "template" you're referring to; you might just not know what the Wikipedia jargon for it is yet. Could you find an article with this "heading" and tell me where it is? ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: File:Louis xvi personal information.png (if the picture is showing error, please refer to this link- https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TU8qEbnghU7tsEvIYP6wxbDjg51ypPB1/view?usp=sharing)

Please notice that under successor, the heading should be personal information. Please help adding that :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakm11 (talk • contribs)

There are different infoboxes with different designs. {{Infobox royalty}} does not have such a heading. Neither does the main {{Infobox person}}. Template:Infobox officeholder#Personal data says "Personal details". {{Infobox sportsperson}} does say "Personal information", but don't use a wrong infobox for a person just because you like a heading in it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Rakm11: You could suggest the heading at Template talk:Infobox royalty but "personal information" like family (and just being born) is what royalty is known for so the heading may seem out of place. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

PROD

What is the definition of PROD? TTTTRZON (talk) 06:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@TTTTRZON: In the context of Wikipedia, it means proposed deletion, which is for articles that should be uncontroversial deleted but doesn't fit any of the criteria for speedy deletion. Anything that is likely to generate even a little opposition should instead go to a third channel, articles for deletion. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 06:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

New biographical article – diacritics, Wikidata, Google

I have just created my first article on (en) Wikipedia. It is a bio on a deceased architect. I have a couple of questions:

1. How do I make sure that the Wikidata references are correct? It so happens that another article about the same person exists on (de) Wikipedia. This older article spells the name of the article subject without a diacritic, while my new entry on (en) Wikipedia spells the name with the diacritic. This means that there are now two different Wikidata IDs, whereas they actually refer to the same person. This seems less than ideal – can I rectify this myself, and if so how?
2. How long does it normally take for a Wikipedia article to get indexed by Google, Bing etc.? Ingwe Ndlovu (talk) 10:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

1. Wikidata has a "Merge" function, and I've done that for you.

2. A new article is NOINDEXed until it has been reviewed through the new pages patrol process (or 90 days have elapsed). After that it's up to Google as to how quickly they index it. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @David Biddulph: – re the indexing, I thought that that process had already happened, since the Page Information shows "Indexing by robots Allowed". I guess that is something else? Ingwe Ndlovu (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree that the wording to which you refer is confusing, but the page's source code includes "<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/>". Perhaps the wording you saw is saying merely that the __NOINDEX__ magic word has not been separately applied? If it isn't reviewed within 90 days, the NOINDEXing is automatically removed. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Ingwe Ndlovu You by-passed the Articles for Creation (AfC) draft and review process to create Alexander Cvijanović in main space. Factual sentences, and in some instances entire sections, are without references. Some of the refs are only mention-his-name-in-passing, two are World-Cat, two of them are to science journal articles (!?!?!?!), and the last one does not work at all. Please continue to improve the article. It is very possible that a new pages patroller, rather than index this, will draftify it. David notMD (talk) 12:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks David notMD – a number of my citations had become garbled and one is currently not working; I have fixed this and added more citations. Ingwe Ndlovu (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Which refs do you identify as being about Alexander at some length. I ask because a few appear to mention him by name, but little detail. David notMD (talk) 01:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

All Sandbox draft lost

All of my edits and drafts in the sandbox have been lost. How can I recover it? Shaguftansari (talk) 11:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Shaguftansari Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your contribution history has no edits(other than to here). Unless you were logged out when you edited, unfortunately your edits were not "published"(what we call saved) so they were lost. 331dot (talk) 12:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Antique firearms: ammunition type exclusion per ATF

Is your content on the subject of "Antique firearms" not misleading people and causing violations of the law? ATF.gov now excludes firearms from the antique class if they use: <ATF.gov> fixed rimfire or centerfire ammo that is readily available through commercial channels. Most ordinary people in the U.S. can have ammo shipped to their door (therefore readily available). Rifles made by Loewe use common Mauser calibers [(7x57,8x57,7.65 etc),(readily available)]. Therefore not "all" firearms made by Loewe of Berlin can be transferred or shipped in the U.S. like proper "antique firearms". The definition and examples given at ATF.gov are not ambiguous. The qualifier about ammunition type now needs to be stressed more; and the statements about Loewe rifles are not absolute in this regard (at least in the United States). LoeweCollector (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@LoeweCollector The teahouse is a place for asking questions about how to edit Wikipedia. I suggest you bring this up on the related articles talk page. Happy editing! Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 14:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

help find a draft

Hi, I need help to find a draft that I was working on. I'm not certain that I saved it. Is there a place where working drafts can be found? HollyBells (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Are you talking about Draft:Wiregrass Blues Society? Kleinpecan (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

And on the principle of teach someone to fish, HollyBells, you can look at all the edits you have made. On the desktop site there is a "Contributions" link at the top right (in the default skin). I don't know if it directly available from the mobile site (it doesn't seem to be from the app) but if you go to Special:Contributions/HollyBells you will see it. --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

edit source code list?

Would there happen to be a list of the stuff that is in the "Help" section of the edit source that provides examples of the end result? IE formatting, links, headings, lists, references, and the discussions or is this inside the manual of style? Discount Horde (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Discount Horde. How about Help:Wikitext?--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

This is exactly what I looking for thank you Shantaviral. Discount Horde (talk) 16:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Why New Zealand is not a federal state for no reason like Australia?

Please Explain and get your answer, please! I hope you may understand what's going on with my question. Cyberllamamusic (talk) 14:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

New Zealand I think this a federal country, not a unitary country, unlike Australia. I hope New Zealand will be a federal status country by the near future amen...

Hello Cyberllamamusic and welcome to the Teahouse. This space is for asking questions about how to edit Wikipedia. I suggest you ask at the reference desk. However, Australia is more than 28 times the size of New Zealand, so it makes sense. See Federation.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

How to know Revision ID?

How to know what is the revision ID of a revision? ExclusiveEditor (talk) 15:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi ExclusiveEditor. Click the time stamp in the page history to see it in the url. Your edit gives https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&oldid=1021411378 so the revision is Special:PermanentLink/1021411378 and the diff is Special:Diff/1021411378. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi ExclusiveEditor! You can go into the history tab of a page (titled "View history" and next to the edit button on the web, has a clock with an arrow circling it on mobile) and select the part of the history with the date; it should be to the left of the user who added it. That will give you a permanent link to the revision. You can see a string of numbers at the end of the URL, and that is the revision ID. For instance, the revision ID of your question is 1021411378. I hope this helps! :) Sennecaster (What now?) 15:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Broken talk page?

Hello! So while I was adding something to the Euro Truck Sim 2 talk page I noticed that all the text after the bots message is smaller than it should be. Could someone explain what's going on as it doesn't do this on other talk pages. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter has fixed the mess. Maproom (talk) 16:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, an IP edit [1] removed random content and left an unclosed <small>. I have restored the removed text. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Yep. Thank you! I had a feeling it was that IP editor that screwed everything up but I couldn't see what was wrong. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Is editing articles part of registering on Wikipedia?

I received an inbox message from Lembit Staan, stating that my edits where undone. just to make it clear I thought editing articles is part of creating an account on Wikipedia and basically my edits where only minor grammar changes. And one more thing if I want to create/share/edit articles, what is the process?

Thank You! Marumoshe (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! You came to the right place. I took a look at your edit and the other editor was right to revert it. Editing articles isn't actually part of creating an account on Wikipedia, all you have to do is create an account. If you want to create an article you would want to check out your first article for advice on how to get started. If you would like to learn how to use Wikipedia a great place to check out would be The Wikipedia Adventure. If you want to link to an article (which is what I assume you mean by share an article) all you have to do is put brackets like this: [[Example]] around the article name, if you want it to display differently then you would put the pipe symbol: | after the article name like this: [[Example|test]]. If you need any help just let us know! Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

You have an account. That allows you to edit articles. I also agree that your grammatical changes made the articles worse in 7 of 8 attempts, and so were correctly reverted. I believe your efforts are in good faith rather than deliberate vandalism, but I strongly suggest you stop making grammar changes, as it appears you do not have a clear understanding of English grammar. As Blaze already answered, WP:YFA is a guide to creating articles. However, new editors are advised to become competent in editing existing articles first. David notMD (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi David! Thank you so much for your support & for making it clear. Will definitely get back to you if I need more help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marumoshe (talk • contribs) 17:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

About the specific nationality of British people

Is it possible to change the demonym for a person/music band from "British" to "English"/"Cornish"/"Scottish"/"Welsh", depending on where said person was born and raised/where said band was first formed? Nu-Protocole (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Nu-Protocole, and welcome to the Teahouse. This question has often been discussed at length in particular cases, but I can't find a general discussion other than note a to MOS:ETHNICITY, which says There is no preference between describing a person as British rather than as English, Scottish, or Welsh. Decisions on which label to use should be determined through discussions and consensus. The label must not be changed arbitrarily. To come to a consensus, editors should consider how reliable sources refer to the subject, particularly UK reliable sources, and consider whether the subject has a preference on which nationality they identify by. So don't change it without discussing on the talk page of the relevant article first. --ColinFine (talk) 18:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

There is also an essay at WP:UKNATIONALS – note particularly the section in WP:UKCHANGE which states Re-labelling nationalities on grounds of consistency—making every UK citizen "British", or converting each of those labelled "British" into their constituent nationalities—is strongly discouraged. Richard3120 (talk) 19:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

There could be good reasons to do this sometimes. For example, folk bands from the different nations of the UK might have quite different styles and concerns. Nu-Protocole, did you have an article in mind or was this a general question? › Mortee _talk 21:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Mortee: no, they've just been unilaterally changing numerous articles over the last few days from "British" to "English" or whatever the relevant nationality is. Richard3120 (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Richard3120: Ah. In that case I agree with your earlier answer. Making changes like that in bulk is not a good idea. › Mortee _talk 21:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Awkward Situation

Hello, an unusual thing happened today. User Morneo06 warned me about a vandalism revert in the Old media page. I think it might be a mistake on their side or I might be wrong.  Necctaylor (talk) 17:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Necctaylor Yup, that's just a mistake--Morneo06 meant to undo the same edit you did and accidentally reverted the wrong edit. Looks like it's all been sorted on that page now though. Alyo (chat·edits) 18:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Chasa caste

Chasa caste is one of the higher caste in odissa. They are part of khandayata community. In fact they are ksatriyas. But in wiki its written as shudras. Its completely wrong. They are among panikhia jati. You can read about panikhia jati in wikipedia. They are higher class community. Shudra is lower. Chasa are cultivating ksatriyas. You can research on that by Google Chasa khandayat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panikhia_Jati Sekharblack123 (talk) 18:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! Currently, there are 4 inline citations for the Chasa being Shudras. I wasn't able to find a reliable source corroborating your claim that they are Ksatriyas. If you could give us a source for the claim, I would happily look at it and check. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

My wikipedia page is draft, How to move to main page

I am creat a Wikipedia page but my page in the draft. Below I mention my page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dr._Amin_Hussain_Hassan_Alamiri so please let me know how to move my draft page to the main page. Surjitpatra (talk) 18:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

You don't. You will have to get your Draft approved first before it moves into the mainspace. You could alternatively just create the page however this is not recommended. Please take a look at your first article for help with the draft. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 18:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Surjitpatra your draft will not be moved to the so-called main space (not page). Your draft lacks entirely of reliable sources and I declined it a couple of minutes ago, please take notice of the comments left on the draft. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC

You have to submit your article for review. Your draft was not accepted because there are 0 sources. Like CommanderWaterford said go to your first article for help. TigerScientist Chat 18:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I edited the Elric post. Added facts. I am the author of the Elric books. But this is wasting time for me. I simply added a correcton. You do a great job with Wiki but this is the first time you've put me through this and I hate form questions.23.119.27.119 (talk) 19:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC).

Oh, Lord, this is so irritatng. I'm the author of the Elric books and made a minor factual change as far as I recall. Never again! This isn't the first time I've corrected simple factual errors (usually about books or writers I know) only for it to become a waste of everyone's time. 23.119.27.119 (talk) 19:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires content to be verifiable, which is done by citing reliable sources. Even if the changes are true, they won't be accepted unless they can be attributed to something other than "I was there". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

If you are the author of the books as you say then please take a look at WP:COI. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 19:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Stating that your books "have influenced every aspect of modern fantasy" is rather more than a minor factual change. It is a very bold claim which at the very least needs an independent citation.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Michael. I'm afraid that for those who don't know how Wikipedia works, anyone attempting to make changes about something they're closely connected with can be rather soul-sapping. It is therefore best to go to the 'Talk Page' tab' and either simply post your suggested changes there, and let an experienced editor decide how to handle it, or make a formal WP:EDITREQUEST. If you follow that link, it explains how you can make a request which will certainly draw the attention of other editors. We don't let people simply add things they know - everything has to be 'verifiable' by someone on the other side of the world, using only online or properly published sources in a library, bookshop or journal. The word of a connected person is, quite simply, rejected as not being provable. Only by strictly enforcing that rule can we hope to keep our 6.2million encyclopaedic articles from descending into chaos. As an aside, I really used to love reading your Elric stories when I was younger. Whilst I was never madly keen on your writing style, per se, the brilliantly imaginative stories of Elric and his soul-drinking sword kept me intrigued and always longing for more. Influential, they most certainly were, but my word doesn't count either - we need reliable, third party sources to say that before we can add it. Honoured to have you here, and best wishes from the English Midlands, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Mike: this shouldn't be too difficult to resolve! As my Wikipedia colleagues have explained above, we can't have you yourself saying in our article about you how influential your books have been, because this would be a "Conflict of Interest." Nor can we have, say, me saying it, even though I've been reading your and many others' SFF books for some fifty years and know it to be true, because I'm not a recognised authority (well, not outside of the South Hants Science Fiction Group, anyway) and haven't had such a statement published by a pukka publisher.

However, as we both well know, there is a considerable body of respectable critical writing about you and your works. All we need to do is find a statement to that effect in a published work of literary criticism (either a book or a journal such as Foundation ) by someone like John Clute, or Brian Aldiss, or Roz Kaveney, or — you get the idea. Such a publication would be a Reliable Source, and we can quote or paraphrase the statement and cite it to that source (which, of course, doesn't have to be online, we just need the usual bibliographical details). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.135.95 (talk) 21:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Userbox that was previously deleted

Greetings, I am asking my first question here after 92,000 edits. There is a userbox called User:Shāntián Tàiláng/Userboxes/Atheism that was recreated after a deletion discussion. Someone previously G4'd it, but the creator made subtle adjustments and the nominator removed the tag. I nominated it because it still seemed all too similar to what was previously deleted. I was not aware of the previous G4 tagging. I am asking what to do because this seems like an incredibly ambiguous situation. For the record, I would have opposed the Mfd nomination. Thanks. Scorpions13256 (talk) 19:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Scorpions13256. If you think a userbox should be deleted and speedy deletion doesn't apply / has been declined, the right place to nominate it is Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. I don't have a particular view on this one, but I imagine the conversation would be based mostly on WP:UBCR and whether this is "substantially divisive" (perhaps broadening out into a discussion of what the point of userboxes is and to what degree it's reasonable to use them to express non-wiki-related viewpoints). There might be a side-thread related to the speedy deletion about whether "fears that X might have a scary effect on societies" is meaningfully different from "believes that X is harmful to society" with respect to the previous decision. It's up to you whether you think it's a discussion worth starting and engaging in.

One alternative might be to ask the admin who closed that MfD for their view about whether the new userbox falls under the existing consensus to delete. If they say it does, presumably they'll delete it. If they say it doesn't or they'd prefer there to be a new discussion, you can decide whether or not to open an MfD then. › Mortee _talk 21:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Scorpions13256: Please clarify. You say you nomiminated it for deletion but that you would have opposed the nomination for deletion? What does that mean? RudolfRed (talk) 21:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

RudolfRed good point. I meant to ask that too but got distracted while looking up guidelines and forgot to. I might be able to answer better if I understood that part properly. › Mortee _talk 21:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry. It means that I disagreed with the result of the Mfd, but I tagged it because consensus called for it to be deleted. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

In addition, I thought that consulting the deleting administrator would also be a good option, but I thought asking here would be good too. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Scorpions13256: Ah, I see. I don't think you have any obligation to put work into getting something deleted, even if it would be deleted were someone to nominate it. You can decide where to spend your time and effort based on your own priorities. If in a particular case you didn't think something should be deleted but consensus disagreed with you, you're allowed to go on with your day and edit something else rather than making sure the decision is applied thoroughly. › Mortee _talk 21:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Does this article have problems?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Visi%C3%B3n — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsJustdancefan (talk • contribs) 20:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Please remember to sign on talk pages using ~~~~. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 20:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi ItsJustdancefan, welcome to the Teahouse. At first glance, one issue is that the table under "Current programming" doesn't seem to have references and could be hard to maintain. It might also fall under WP:NOTTVGUIDE, though it doesn't try to give show times, for example. Why do you ask? If you're looking for articles to improve, one great place to look is the Task Center. From your user page, I see you're particularly interested in improving articles about television so, if you haven't already looked at WikiProject Television, you might find that helpful too. › Mortee _talk 20:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

why

what Halesbarer (talk) 20:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

no

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! Do you have an actual question or were you just trying to be funny? Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 20:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

A complaint about an editor deleting a legitimate entry I made in the Wikipedia section on Jackson Guitars

 101.180.130.78 (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

If you're referring to this edit (the only recent edit to the Jackson Guitars article), it was likely removed because the addition, Anton Cleary, does not have a Wikipedia article and is not associated with any group that has a Wikipedia article, and the reference "Google Musical Artist" is inadequate — see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. DanCherek (talk) 21:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@IP editor: On and off since 2019, User:Anton Cleary has occasionally tried to add themselves to the list of musicians at Jackson Guitars and one or two other pages. Sadly, they've failed to appreciate the point made above - that names of people in what we call 'List Articles' must already either have a Wikipedia article about them (i.e. be 'Notable'), or provide sufficiently good quality, reliable, independent sources as a reference that it would be pretty obvious they ought to have an article about them. That is both explained at this explanation about adding people to List articles, but also at WP:NMUSIC which is our notability criteria for musicians. Without one of those two being met, their (your?) edits will always be removed. I note that they/you have put their name forward at Requested Articles. It would have helped had they also provided some good links to Reliable Sources independent of the musician which showed how they meet WP:NMUSIC. If someone is truly notable, in due course someone will indeed want to create an article about that person. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

My response to editor Nick Moyes' response to my earlier complaint "A complaint about an editor deleting a legitimate entry I made in the Wikipedia section on Jackson guitars".

It is clear from Wikipedia editor Nick Moyes' response that as part of his research into my legitimate claim to be included on the list of notable users of Jackson guitars, he has not taken the time to do a Google search of me i.e Anton Cleary Musical Artist, because he has apparently assumed that this is just another illegitimate attempt by somebody to get on the list. If he had taken the time to do the Google search, he would clearly see that I clearly meet criterion one of the Wikipedia music notability criteria which is headed "Criteria for Musicians and ensembles" on the Wikipedia page "Wikipedia: Notability (music). His failure to do his research has created a lot of unnecessary follow up work for me regarding this matter. I request once again that my legitimate entry be reinstated because I clearly meet criterion one of the Wikipedia music notability criteria. If Nick Moyes again refuses to do this, I request that another Wikipedia editor look into this matter. Thanks very much. Anton Cleary,solo guitarist/street performer Warrnambool Australia. Anton Cleary (talk) 22:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

One fundamental aspect of Wikipedia is that it is not for promotion.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I'm yet another Wikipedia editor. Perhaps there could be an article about you: I'm not going to investigate this. However unjust it may seem (or even be), there is no article about you. Therefore your name won't be added to any list of notable whatever. Non-appearance in a list of notable examples doesn't imply lack of notability. (I suggest that you do not post a follow-up message on this; but if you want to do so, then do so within this section, not in a new section.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

That list is unreferenced and the entire list should be removed until it can be referenced properly. The one thing that is sure is that you will not be added to the list, Anton Cleary, unless and until there is a Wikipedia biography of you. Nick Moyes has done nothing wrong but you have a conflict of interest. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Anton Cleary. For what it's worth, it's not the responsibility of Nick or any other editor to do any "research" on your behalf, but rather it's your responsibility to establish that adding your name to any Wikipedia article is simply not just a case of someone try to self-promote through namechecking. Generally, in cases like this, the best thing is often to simply create an article first if you truly believe the individual in question is Wikipedia notable for a Wikipedia article to be written about them. Although Wikipedia does highly discourage people from creating articles about themselves per Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing, you can try first creating a draft and then submitting it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review if you want to do so yourself. On the other hand, it might be better to wait and see if someone responds to your request at Wikipedia:Requested articles/music#Instrumentalists, but you'll have a better chance of that succeeding if you can provide links to some examples of significant coverage in reliable sources (as defined by Wikipedia) as part of your request. Simply stating that you're a solo guitarist/street performer. Released 7 instrumental albums. Radio DJ. might be true, but it needs to be verifiable for Wikipedia's purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Anton Cleary: you rather rudely said about me in my response to you, above: "His failure to do his research has created a lot of unnecessary follow up work for me regarding this matter." Responding as politely as I am able, I'm afraid that's inevitably work for you to do, not me. I'm simply not interested in you or your style of 'music'. That said, I did actually take a very quick look for you on Google yesterday and, whilst it's irrelevant to my reply, you didn't strike me as immediately and obviously notable (by Wikipedia's standards, that is - not your fans in Warrnambool), nor was their any linkage with you and that particular model of guitar at all. So if you were to hope for someone to create an article about you, it would be for them to find sources that demonstrate how you meet criterion 1 of WP:MUSICBIO, and to ignore interviews, promotional guff and self-written stuff, as listed in the bullet-pointed 'exceptions'. We get many people who want to have an article about themselves on Wikipedia, and you strike me as no different to many of them. Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

UPDATE: This user has now been indefinitely blocked for Promotional Editing by an uninvolved administrator. Nick Moyes (talk) 04:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

How to cite the authors of an interview

I wanted to cite this article, which lists reporter Krystian Brodacki as its author, but the article, which is an interview with Zdzisław Król, consists almost entirely of Król's words, with the exception of the two short introductory paragraphs. When citing a source like this, should I give the reporter, or the subject of the interview, or both as authors? 73.195.249.93 (talk) 22:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi IP, you might be interested in the {{Cite interview}} citation template, in which |last= and |first= are used for the interview subject, and |interviewer= is used for the reporter. A word of caution, however, that people can say whatever they like in interviews, and so it's important to keep in mind that an interview is generally reliable for the fact that the interviewee said something, but what they said may not necessarily be accurate or encyclopedic. DanCherek (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Delete A Page

Hello,

I want to nominate a page for deletion. I don't think it meets the notability criteria. How do I do this? KingofAlice (talk) 22:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, KingofAlice. There are three article deletion processes, depending on the circumstances. Start by reading Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the help, although I think that's a lot for me to understand. I want to nominate this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_Windows_and_Doors

The references #15 - #14 - #13 - #11 - #10 - #9 - #8 - #5 - #4 don't make sense. They are either not working or lead to a non-related page. What's the code for putting a nomination due to the lack of notability?

The article was nominated for deletion many years ago and the result was keep. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republic Windows and Doors doktorb _words^deeds 23:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh wow! Thanks! But I noticed this: To be pedantic, then, the article should be something like the Bankruptcy of Republic Windows and Doors since that is the notable thing - not the company but the interactions and ramifications of the end of the company. For much the same reason, we have an article on the Grunwick dispute but not on Grunwick the company. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, most of the references are not working anymore. How is the company itself notable? doktorb

If a link no longer works, the first thing one should do is attempt to find the intended page via the Wayback Machine, and, if it's there, replace the dead link with a link to a usable Wayback scrape. If the wanted page can't be found there, it may still exist with a different URL. Anybody wanting to move the article to Bankruptcy of Republic Windows and Doors should, I think, first suggest this at Talk:Republic Windows and Doors, and only if there's agreement go on to move it. Anyone wanting to have the article deleted should start as Cullen328 suggests above: read and digest Wikipedia:Deletion policy. -- Hoary (talk) 23:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

KingofAlice The references have been fixed.--Pibal373 (talk) 00:03, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Review for my Article Maceo Frost

Hello Wikipedians, So this time I am here to know that is there anything lacking in my article Draft:Maceo Frost? I would like to have your suggestions on how to improve my article so that it gets into the main article space. Thanks in advance!!! Jocelin Andrea (talk) 01:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC) Jocelin Andrea (talk) 01:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

"where he was less noted": Than whom, or than when? "He then came up with his Documentary film": What does "came up with" mean here? "He also worked with some Musical videos": What does "worked with" mean here; and by "musical video" do you mean what's normally called "music video"? If he has produced, done the cinematography for, directed or appeared in nine "Films(Documentaries)", then what did he do for or in them, what sources can you provide for them, and what order are they listed in? Your capitalization is idiosyncratic: "Documentary", but "african" (normally "documentary" but "African"). You've got an inline external link (for "Failing to meditate"): that's a no-no. If his work has been shown in international festivals, then what was the reaction to it? -- Hoary (talk) 02:03, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

live editing

I just wanted to correct time line some dates of my history all verifiable. Thank You Sean Lomax WHISTLER2021 (talk) 01:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Which article is it? Please let us know here.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Sean Lomax. David notMD (talk) 01:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

If you are the subject of the article, you are allowed to make edit requests on the article's talk page. You are required to cite a reliable source so it may be verified. Personal knowledge is not sufficient for verification.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

WHISTLER2021, thank you for not editing the article directly. The best place to suggest changes is Talk:Sean Lomax. Please point to published accounts, so that editors can verify any suggestion. -- Hoary (talk) 02:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Provinces of China Table

Hi! I'm a new editor, and I have a question. For the Provinces of China there is a table below the large picture of provinces that cannot be edited. Why is this so, how can I edit it, and does this come up in other articles? 24Anonymous (talk) 01:42, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@24Anonymous: The big table underneath the section Provinces_of_China#List_of_province-level_divisions is different because it's created with the template {{tent division chn 1}}, which cannot be edited with VisualEditor. You'll have to go into source editing for that. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 02:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Need to Update our Wikipedia business page

Hi, we are SPC Australia, formely SPC Ardmona and need to edit and update our page. How can we do that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPC_Ardmona 49.255.41.166 (talk) 03:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi IP 49.255.41.166. The first thing you should try and understand, and then explain to your colleagues is that your company doesn’t have a Wikipedia business page; in fact, no company has a Wikipedia business page. What does exist is a WIkipedia:Article written about your company, but your company doesn’t have any claim of ownership or final editorial control over what’s written in the article which means that any changes made to it are going to need to satisfy relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Since you’ve stated you’re connected to the company, please carefully read through WP:COI and WP:PAID for reference, but basically you’re going to be expected to propose the changes you want made on the article’s talk page and let them be assessed for appropriateness by other editors. — Marchjuly (talk) 04:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Past Disruptions

My interest in "post-1932" politics of the United States is limited to how you evil people destroyed an African Country - Libya. Meaning I have no interest in your disgusting political leaders at all - they all make me vomit.

Yet the following appears on my talk page:

"You have shown interest in post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect."

Where in the name of all that is holy did I "show interest in post-1932 politics of the United Shithole"?? Rian Geldenhuys (talk) 04:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

You misquote. Not "Shithole", but "States". And I can't speak in the name of anything that's holy. Your edits to articles related to the post-1932 (and more or less insane) politics of the US is evident from your list of contributions. -- Hoary (talk) 04:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Rian Geldenhuys, the highly emotional comment that you just made is irrefutable evidence that you needed to be alerted to discretionary sanctions in this topic area. Since your feelings are so strong and vigorous, you would be well advised to either avoid editing about contemporary U.S. politics, or to edit with extreme caution going forward. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Your most recent contributions before posting here at the Teahouse, were to edit Patriot Prayer last September, which is about U.S. politics. What is the truth? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft by 159.196.151.195

why did my page die 159.196.151.195 (talk) 07:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC) mmmmmmm

If you mean Draft:DEAN VALTAS, you'll see an explanation at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:DEAN VALTAS, and it may by now have been speedily deleted. Perhaps you don't understand the purpose of an encyclopedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 07:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Not deleted yet, but will be shortly. What you wrote in no way gets close to what a Wikipedia article needs to be. It has no facts and no references. Yes, attempts at autobiography are allowed (per your comment on the Talk page of the draft), but those have to meet same standards as all articles. David notMD (talk) 11:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

shifting POV on Shia Islam in the UAE

I am wondering what to think about this change to "Shia Islam in the United Arab Emirates".

According to what the article said before this change, it seems that things were mostly hunky-dory for Shia Muslims, but after the edits, the Shias are not being treated so nicely. Those claims are sourced to a 2011 State Department report, though a casual perusal of more recent versions of the State Department report would seem to support the same claims.

Several months ago, the Wikipedia article was edited to state essentially the opposite, that things are not really hunky-dory for Shia Muslims.

I understand that the facts are not all black and white, but what are we to make of the absence of any apparent controversy about this change in POV? That it's possible, under the right circumstances, to switch the POV and not hear a peep about it? And if that's the case, what do we take from that about how reliable WP really is? Fabrickator (talk) 07:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

The edit to which you refer seems to be removing sourced text, replacing it by unsourced, and changing a number to a new value which conflicts with the cited source. It appears therefore that the change ought to be reverted in toto. The place to discuss an article is on its talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:05, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I see that another editor has now reverted the changes in question, & reinstated subsequent edits. Thank you for pointing it out. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Fabrickator and David Biddulph: ...and done. Whew. Thanks for bring it to our attention. As for your last question: there's a reason why teachers tell their students to not use Wikipedia, because occasionally changes like these happen and go uncaught for, in our case, 5+ months. Wikipedia's run by volunteers, and we do try our best, but some things slip through the cracks. Take that as you will, I guess. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Creation of a page

I have been asked to create a Wikipedia page for a Business and I was wondering if I can create the page currently or do I have to be verified/authenticated in some way? Paddym77 (talk) 10:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, you need to state you're affiliated with the organisation. For starting a Wikipedia page, you can simply create a draft, and then you need to submit it to create an article. Ahmetlii (talk) 10:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Paddym77: Please be advised that creating a new article (not just "page") is one of the hardest tasks on wikipedia, and that there are good reasons why an entity might not want a Wikipedia article. I see That you have declared your WP:PAID status on your userpage. The next step would therfore be to gather sources for what you find. Wikipedia prefers reliable, independent sources with some coverage. If you cannot find at least three or for, you should stop there. Otherwise, you can move on to create a draft. You can use the input box below to have the software automatically fill in a few things for you:

Last but not least, be advised that promotionalism of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch and specificially its Words that may introduce bias section may be of interest. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

In theory, once you have been an editor for four days and have made ten edits, you can create an article directly into mainspace without the AfC review process, but all new editors, especially paid editors, are advised to go through AfC. A reviewer then accepts or declines the draft. If the latter, with comments on shortfalls. Then, you can work on improving the draft. If you skip AfC and the article is seen as promotional/advertising, it could be subjected to a Speedy deletion or nominated for deletion at Articles for Deletion. Consider modeling your draft on existing articles about similar businesses, but be aware of WP:Other stuff exists. David notMD (talk) 11:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I want to publish my company page cause I own a company

I want to publish my company page cause I own a company 1samirpatel1000 (talk) 11:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

1samirpatel1000 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia does not have "company pages", not one. Wikipedia has articles about companies; those articles are typically written by independent editors and summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself, as Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves. That's what social media and company websites are for. Wikipedia has no interest in the internet presence of your company or in enhancing search results for it. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

If you own the company you need to read about conflict of interest and about paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft of existing article/stub to main page

Hello everyone! I had a look of the "Filipinos in Austria" page and was surprised to see it being only a stub article. That´s why I decided to create a Wikipedia account and expand it with all the info I have on this subject. I already submitted my draft, however, it got (understandably) declined as the page already exists. So, my questions are:

1. If I understood correctly, I need to edit the article itself, then publish it, and then it´s getting reviewed - am I right with this assuption?
2. I would love to add pictures from news websites and other web pages to make the page a bit more lively and pleasant to look at - Must I only post photos I took myself or is there anyway I can use photos I didn´t took by giving credit to whoever took them?

I am excited to be a part of it all and look forward to reading your answers :) Fil-Aut Guy (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Fil-Aut Guy: and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, you need to edit the article itself however before you add the content of your draft to the article I suggest you do a bit more work on it. Namely, the content you add should be cited and shouldn't contain original research, I am saying this because Culture section in your draft is largely unsourced. See WP:CITE and WP:NOR for more details on this.
Regarding the images they should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and you can only upload images you took yourself and those that are in the public domain. Best regards, OakMapping (talk) 12:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Further to OakMapping's reply, Fil-Aut Guy, note that for this purpose, "public domain" means something much more specific than "publicly available". most pictures you find on the internet or in newspapers may not be used, unless they are old (at least a century or so). See Image use policy. --ColinFine (talk) 13:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

A clarification - when editing an existing article, and then clicking on Publish changes, your changes are automatically and immediately made (do remember to write a concise Edit summary). No review process. HOWEVER, if an editor disagrees with what you added (or subtracted), they can revert your changes. If that happens, advice is to start a discussion on the Talk page of the article in question. David notMD (talk) 15:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey @Fil-Aut Guy:, welcome! I'm so glad you've registered an account and are interested in actively editing Wikipedia now! One thing that has been mentioned, but needs to be emphasized is that Wikipedia's editing policy is Anyone can edit!. There is no barrier to entry, no need to even register a username (though there are benefits to doing so). If you see an article that needs fixing, or correcting, or expanding, you're expected to just go right ahead and fix it. There is no mandatory review policy, there is no need to get others to approve your work first, people are supposed to assume you are trying to help and let you do so. Now, sometimes your fixes will need further fixes, so you can expect other people to come in and correct your errors. This can even include removing everything you did; don't panic about this, sometimes you've tried your best but it still has problems. That's OK. This is a normal part of the editing process as everyone pitches in and continuously improves and fixes Wikipedia articles. If someone has come in after you and fixed a mistake you made, or completely undone what you thought was good work, don't panic! Just ask them why they did what they did, and see if they can explain it to you. If you can learn what went wrong, you'll just be better next time! If you disagree with that person, then you can always ask other, uninvolved editors, to look the situation over and give their input as well. It's a very collaborative process. I hope this explanation helped you understand a little more how Wikipedia works. I hope you decided to stick around a while and bring your interests, skills, and passions to Wikipedia. We can always use the extra help! --Jayron32 16:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

delete my ip

can you delete my ip from here

https://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=(Redacted)&action=history Special:Contributions/ ([[User talk:|talk]]) 12:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kietas420 (talk • contribs)  

No. Only an Oversighter can do that. Another host can you tell you more about that as I don't have enough knowledge in that area. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 12:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Also, remember to sign your signature with ~~~~. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 12:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

If you are talking about edits at the Lithuanian Wikipedia you need to raise them there. This Teahouse is for advice concerning the English Wikipedia. [And I reverted your blanking of this page here.] --David Biddulph (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Confused about copyright of images

If I take values of data from the plot shown in http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/Sciences/sn1987a-neutrinos-dwg.gif and plot these values myself, would it be considered a copyright violation? Astroriya (talk) 14:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Astroriya: Wikipedia has a noticeboard called Wikipedia:Media copyright questions which is designed to handle questions exactly like this. If you asked your question there, you may get a better response than here. There's a long-time Wikipedia user named @Moonriddengirl: who has worked in the field of copyright here at Wikipedia for a long time; it looks like they haven't been active since March of this year, so I don't know whether or not they will respond to questions or queries directly; if there was one person who would have the ability to answer definitively I would ask them. So, if I were you I would first ask at the MCQ noticeboard, and if that doesn't get you a satisfactory answer, maybe try Moonriddengirl and ask on their usertalk page and see if they are still checking in to Wikipedia occasionally. --Jayron32 14:34, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Astroriya: Hi. Data, numbers and stats are facts, which are not eligible for copyright protection. Plotting a graph using the data is not a derivative work. Copyrighting data and stats would kill all news, journalism and encyclopædia projects. I would go on to say, as long as the charts lack creative element, they aren't copyright eligible too; though the consensus might differ on that. (In this example, I find it non-copyright eligible as it lacks any creative input.) To be on the safer side, use the data set to generate a chart of your own. But please be aware, plotting data from a data set is better than guessing the number looking at this stat -- we have no idea if they really did it accurately, or blundered, or rounded up or down, or what was the precision. Since it is likely the file will be uploaded on Commons, it would be better suited to ask this on Commons, but this is going to be the reply you are likely to get.
acagastya 17:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

How to put a sandbox article online.

 Courtesy link: User:JulianMeijer1986/sandbox/Jan Meyer

Sandbox Article

Hello everyone, I have just created my first wikipedia article, but it is still in my sandbox, I would like to know how to put this article online, and especially if the name of my user will disappear from the title when I' ll put it online. Thanks JulianMeijer1986 (talk) 15:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

JulianMeijer1986 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit the draft. If the draft is accepted, the reviewer will place it at the proper title. In the future you may create and submit drafts using Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 15:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Your Draft doesn't seem to have any sources. Everything on wikipedia needs to be able to be proven. TigerScientist Chat 16:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi JulianMeijer1986. This was a copyright violation in two different ways: 1) copying the existing writing of external sources, and 2) not providing copyright attribution to the Wikipedia authors of the French article. I have left a note about this at your talk page. Regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:13, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Chat help option

How do I find the live chat page to ask questions and discuss? HollyBells (talk) 16:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:IRC help disclaimer AdmiralEek (talk) 16:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@HollyBells: Welcome to Wikipedia. See this page: Wikipedia:IRC/wikipedia-en-help RudolfRed (talk) 16:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

You don't have to go to the live chat depending on the question. You can ask it here. If you prefer live chat though then follow the links above. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

How can I attach a document (not already on the web) to a wikipedia page?

I am new to wikipedia editing. My question is: how can I attach a document (say, a pdf file), which is on my computer but not already on the web, to a wikipedia page? In this case, the wikipedia page is about myself, and I would like to attach (1) a short CV, and (2) a list of my publications. I guess that these files should go into the references, but I have not entered any reference as yet (I am really new to the task). Ocean Louis (talk) 16:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

1) you can't unless they're either online, or on Wikipedia's servers. 2) I strongly disrecommend trying to write a Wikipedia article about yourself. DS (talk) 17:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

The issue here is that there is an article about you: Louis Legendre (oceanographer) which lacks references. Given that you have what Wikipedia considers a conflict of interest (you appear to be the subject of the article (be aware that you - Ocean Louis - have not proven to Wikipedia that this is true)), then you are limited to going to the Talk page of the article and proposing changes. A non-connected editor will decide to implement those changes or not. I took the liberty of adding content, taken from the one valid ref, but leave it to you to find and propose additional references. David notMD (talk) 18:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I am totally new to Wikipedia editing, and did not realized that I could not correct directly information about myself. I am tying to go through the Talkpage, but my first requests for changes were rejected becauuse I do nt know how to proceed. I will continue to try because it is not good to have on a Wikipedia page outdated information about someone (myself in this case). Thanks again.

Bear in mind that sourcing requirements for biographical content that could potentially be challenged is stricter than normal; a cirriculum vitae and bibliography aren't going to help on that front and in fact the former would require additional third-party sources. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Source to add to 100 Greatest African Americans

I found a source to add to this topic-- Booklist. 2/15/2003, Vol. 99 Issue 12, p1097. 1p. But I can't add it because it's protected. It's a very short article. Here are some quotes I thought would be useful: The author "makes it very clear that he left out numerous current popular people because he feels the hype around the pop persona is not what makes an individual important." "Each portrait covers two to four pages that summarize the person’s life, work, and importance and is accompanied by a black-and-white photograph or illustration." Susanzwitter (talk) 18:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

You can make the request on the article's talk page. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Susanzwitter: The 100 Greatest African Americans article is semi-protected, but you should be able to edit it because you have at least ten edits and have been registered for at least four days. Are you still unable to edit it and if so, what kind of error message are you getting? DanCherek (talk) 18:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Dan--I was having trouble finding why I couldn't use the Visual Editor and getting mixed up--then I realized it was a preference in my account. Somehow that confused the actual editing process. Changed preference, visual-edited it, and the change went through. I appreciate your and Wolf's support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Susanzwitter (talk • contribs) 19:42, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Awesome — glad it's figured out. Happy editing! DanCherek (talk) 19:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft has been resubmitted and is currently awaiting re-review

I have resubmitted a draft and is currently awaiting re-review, but not sure if I resubmitted correctly. Please see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joey_Auch

I replied to comment below and not sure if it's formatted correctly.

Comment: Much seems to ride on the one event - Gimme Me Back That Filet-O-Fish - which sounds more WP:BLP1E than WP:N Tagishsimon (talk) 21:04, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Added 3 additional events that fall under 'criteria for musicians'. #152 Single on the National CMJ Radio 200. Produced Rachel Platten right before her national #1 song “Fight Song” & also produced notable musicians Erin Bowman and Decora. Won The Great American Song Contest in 2006. "Leaving Carolina" And won ‘Pop/Top 40 Outstanding Achievement in Songwriting with Nick Deutsch for “Meteor” in The 2014 Great American Song Contest. JCashmanIII (talk) 02:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your help JcashmanIII (talk) 18:53, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@JcashmanIII I can confirm you that your draft is waiting for review, please be patient, we have more than 5,000 drafts currently waiting for a review. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Olympics.com resubmission

I've corrected the reference to the independent one and consider resubmitting the draft. Should I do that or there's still something that must be improved first? Thanks in advance! VLaiquendi (talk) 21:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey, VLaiquendi! This is just my opinion, but perhaps the website doesn't need its own article and could just be added as a section in the main Olympic Games article instead. Thoughts? (please use {{reply to|Bsoyka}} on reply)Template:Z181 Bsoyka🗣️ 21:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, VLaiquendi, and welcome to the Teahouse. It is very rare that an article with only a single reference will meet the criteria for WP:notability: the source will, at the very least, have to have copious significant coverage of the subject, and be unassabilably independent of the subject. The AIMS source you have provided appears to have one paragraph (it is clearly not the whole of an article, but I can't see any way to get more of it, which suggests to me that this is not actually where it is published), and it reads like a press release rather than an independent piece of journalism. If that is all you can find, then I would say that the site is ceratinly not currently notable by Wikipedia's standards - unsurprising, as anything newly launched is very unlikely to be: see TOOSOON. I would doubt whether the website will ever be independently notable, (but stranger things have happened). At present I think, with Bsoyka, that it probably merits at most a single sentence in Olympic games. --ColinFine (talk) 22:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Bsoyka and ColinFine! Obviously adding the link and section to Olympic Games or IOC was my first intention. But Olympic Games is much broader term than just a digital platform of the IOC, looking at Olympic Games article I wouldn't say adding Olympics.com as it's official website would be appropriate. Adding it to the IOC is also a problem as IOC is having its own devoted subsection of Olympics.com. Actually Olympics.com is a successor and development of Olympic Channel and I've raised a discussion to rename Olympic Channel to Olympics.com and was opposed and advised to create a separate Olympics.com article. In addition Olympics.com is a holder of a former Olympic Channel database (now Olympics.com athletes database (Q56411957) with Olympics.com athlete IDs (P5815). It is a database and Template:Olympic_Channel (to be renamed) that is being used by thousands of athlete's profiles in Wikipedia. I'll think it over and may be leave it as it is for the time being, may be it will get better notability. Thanks! VLaiquendi (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

How do I engage in the community to question an accuracy in an existing wikipedia article?

Hello, im glad this forum exists because i want to contribute as an editor but I am frankly a bit lost.

I spotted what I deemed was a non-neutral point of view, in the article "Revolutions of 1917–1923"; it seems to me one sentence of it is too misleading and thought being somehwat true doesnt reflect the facts accurately, or in a balanced way. How do I go about changing this? How do I engage in the commnunity to point this out, or to change it? Thanks in advance for any tips. Zombination (talk) 22:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Zombination. Please explain your concerns in detail at Talk:Revolutions of 1917–1923. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

In theory, starting a new section (top menu) on the Talk page is a way to engage other editors who have taken an interest in an article, but in this particular case there are very, very few visitors to the Talk page. A more direct may would be to change the sentence. BUT, you should first check if the reference cited for the text supports the text as written. David notMD (talk) 01:57, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

How do I get a Bio page started/should I, or request it?

Having trouble figuring out how I add a new Biography Page Hi! I have never edited or contributed before, and honestly I know nothing about coding, so the how-to articles are really hard for me to follow on here. So I'm asking for help. My husband's publicist has requested that I start a Bio page for him on here. He is currently a solo touring and performing musician, and has been a session player and hired-gun for 30+ years. There's a bunch of stuff on google about him, including a "public person" page on google. But he also founded several major telecom corporations, and invented the credit card machine, and made the first video call over the internet ever. So I'm confused about where to submit his bio, number one, because those two industries are so disparate. And number two, I'm not fully clear on whether I (being his wife) am qualified to be writing this.. Any help is greatly appreciated! And if at all possible, maybe an experienced editor could create the bio and I can provide any information, including valid source material and references, that they would want from me that is not already in the public domain. Thank you for any help you can give! CassidyRoseL-C (talk) 22:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey, CassidyRoseL-C, and welcome to Wikipedia! Due to your relationship, you have a conflict of interest and should not be the one to create the article. There are a few options here, though. First of all, I would personally be happy to help create this article – just leave a message on my talk page if you're interested in that route. Alternatively, you can request that someone else write an article at WP:RA or start a draft yourself through the article wizard. Let me know if you have any questions! (please use {{reply to|Bsoyka}} on reply)Template:Z181 Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 22:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. It seems that you have a better understanding of Wikipedia than the publicist does. (Wikipedia is not a PR outlet.) WP:RA is a waste of time; but if Bsoyka is offering to help create the article, that's good (and most surprising). Perhaps read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide as a gentle introduction to the matter of conflict of interest, and only after doing so proceed to WP:COI. -- Hoary (talk) 23:03, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Sinauli excavation question

Why did HISTORIANS consider the solid wheel chariot like structure found in sinauli excavation as a bullock cart? and there is mention of solid wheel chariots in Mesopotemia civilization . And why the Sinauli worrior will use the bullock cart in war? Drt450 (talk) 04:58, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Drt450, questions like yours are welcome to be asked at the Wikipedia reference desk. Good luck.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Drt450 See discussions at Talk page of Sinauli excavation site. David notMD (talk) 10:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Getting the attention of someone who isn't reading their user talk page

I've tagged a couple of articles by the same (fairly new) user. The tags were removed. I added them back. They were removed again. I've posted messages on their user talk page, to no avail; it could be that they're editing on a mobile device and WP:THEYCANTHEARYOU. I've left edit notes asking them to engage, but I don't know if they're seeing the notes (although they do leave notes themselves, so are at least familiar with the concept). My latest attempt was to add a comment on one of the article talk pages, asking them to visit their user talk page, and even providing a link so that they can (hopefully) find it. If that still doesn't do the trick, any suggestions as to what else I can do, short of drawing an explanatory diagram and posting that on one of their articles?! TIA, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi DoubleGrazing. User contributions show tags if the mobile version or an app is used. If you refer to Special:Contributions/A.roussillon then they are using the desktop site and see notices about your posts. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:26, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @PrimeHunter: that is indeed the user I mean. I did look at the tags, but only saw 'visual', and wasn't sure whether that rules mobile devices in or out, or neither. So does this mean that if the tag doesn't expressly mention 'mobile', then it conclusively means they're using a mobile device? Thanks, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@DoubleGrazing: VisualEditor can be used both in the mobile and desktop version of the site. Both mobile devices and desktop browsers can choose between the mobile and desktop site with a mobile/desktop link at the bottom of pages. They just have different defaults. There are also mobile apps which are different from the mobile version. If there is no tag with "mobile" or "app" in the name then the desktop site was used, unless it was an automated program using the API. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. Very helpful; as I only ever edit on PC using the [whatever the opposite of visual is called], I know very little about how others experience the site. Should really try things out, I guess... Thanks, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

It's called the source editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

I had made a Wikipedia draft how can i send it for review

Sir, i had made a Draft name Draft: Rashtriya Secular Majlis Party. How can i send it for Publishing or review Iamamjad03 (talk) 07:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Rashtriya Secular Majlis Party Maresa63 ^Talk 07:31, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Iamamjad03: Draft:Rashtriya Secular Majlis Party is far from being siutable for mainspace. See WP:YFA for more information. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:36, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Before you continue, Iamamjad03: Why do you write "you" and "we" in your draft? (As a start towards answering this: Who do you intend "you" to refer to, and who do you intend "we" to refer to?) -- Hoary (talk) 08:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

objectivity of article Vivartia

Hello, I happened to come across an article that strikes me as not upholding Wikipedia's usual standards of objectivity. It seems more written from the company's own point of view, as a piece of propaganda. What do I do? Where do I turn? Thank you very much, Garrrick Garrrick (talk) 08:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Garrrick You should object your points on the articles talk page. Everything you need to know about an NPOV Dispute you could further read here. Hope that helps. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:31, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@ CommanderWaterford Many thanks! This is exactly what I needed!

Garrrick (talk) 12:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Publish of Battlegrounds Mobile India game Wikipedia page

Hi there, I have prepared this draft page on the "Battlegrounds Mobile India" topic. Kindly review it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Battlegrounds_Mobile_India Iamrajdeepdas (talk) 08:47, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Randykitty deleted it. Unquestionably, this was a suitable fate for it. This is an encyclopedia, not an advertising site. -- Hoary (talk) 09:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Berlin Brands Group

Hi there, I tried to transpose an article about the Berlin Brands Group from the German Wikipedia into the english Wikipedia. Here ist the Draft. For sure, this is an article on the behalf of the company, what I have clearly disclosed. But anyway it should match the wikipedia criteria. Not only the facts and numbers of the company should be enough also we have reliable sources here like Reuters, TechCrunch, Handelsblatt and others (I can provide much more if needed, but then the article would get to large for that Company). So after all, how is the way, to get this into the article Space? Or is it like the english wikipedia denies any paid articles, even if they are written in a neutral manner? Just asking. tx! Peer Kibonaut (talk) 08:49, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

The managing director "quickly advanced to become a power seller on the online marketplace". Does that mean that he was soon able to sell a lot of stuff? -- Hoary (talk) 09:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the hint. Yes that is the definition of "power seller". I'll delete the the "quickly" as this term does not belong to Wikipedia, right? --Kibonaut (talk) 10:05, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps also deleted "advanced" and "power", leaving you with "...then became a seller of goods in the online marketplace." David notMD (talk) 10:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

For English Wikipedia, your User page disclosure needs to name the specific companies you are editing for, in addition to what you posted on the Talk page of Draft:Berlin_Brands_Group. David notMD (talk) 10:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Citing a source that has been renamed

Some of my sources were originally published in the St. Petersburg Times, prior to its rename as the Tampa Bay Times. I'm not sure how to attribute and archive the sources in this case - should I attribute them to Tampa Bay or St. Petersburg, and does it matter whether I provide an archived copy of the Tampa Bay website or an older version that links to the St. Petersburg website? Or should I do something else not mentioned in the citation guidelines? - Galactic-Radiance (Talk) 09:12, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Galactic-Radiance. If it was published in the St. Petersburg Times then that is what should be shown in the citation. I don't think it matters which link you use, though it would be better to use one that you can be confident will persist.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Homscience

How to clean kitchen equipment made of plain wood Polished wood Painted wood Vanished wood 154.159.238.40 (talk) 09:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

This page is for questions about writing for Wikipedia. For tips on polishing wood, try your favorite search engine. -- Hoary (talk) 09:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Khel Now - What are the issues with the references?

What are the issues with the references published in Article - Khel Now? Pratyush09 (talk) 09:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Pratyush09 There should be reliable sources that determines notability. All references in the article is promotional content, and therefore is not eligible for being an article. Ahmetlii (talk) 10:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Updating my village name in the globe and google map Pim Code 45705

This is 1000s of years old village of Nepal in Mahottari District with pin code 45705. is missing but the village is there in MAP with lebel that is Name. Its a land Mark Bardaha Got Bardaha Nepal (talk) 10:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Bardaha Nepal and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't tell which article you mean. If you are referring to a specific Wikipedia article, then the place to suggest corrections is the talk page of that article. Please include a reliable source for your assertion. --Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)