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m →‎New to me, but I think it's wrong.: a major shift in perspective, and some minor edits. :-)
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In the end, these notes are as much for me, as they are for anyone wondering on or wandering onto the subject. :-)
In the end, these notes are as much for me, as they are for anyone wondering on or wandering onto the subject. :-)


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On this page, for Augmented, Where the midi files are provided. I was expecting a unison sound, but, the midi when played actually plays the Root and the 2nd. This is not unison... right? So, when I look, I expect different notes than I think are displayed in the image above the midi. This seems to be so for most if not all of the Augmented section. Some of them sound right to me; but, I definitely feel for sure the Unison if off. If I already understood this; I would probably emphatically make a few more comments; but, fear I may be missing something. Can someone with more knowledge of this check on this?
On this page, for Augmented, Where the midi files are provided. I was expecting a unison sound, but, the midi when played actually plays the Root and the 2nd. This is not unison... right? So, when I look, I expect different notes than I think are displayed in the image above the midi. This seems to be so for most if not all of the Augmented section. Some of them sound right to me; but, I definitely feel for sure the Unison if off. If I already understood this; I would probably emphatically make a few more comments; but, fear I may be missing something. Can someone with more knowledge of this check on this?

Latest revision as of 12:06, 13 October 2021

New to me, but I think it's wrong.

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OK, I'll leave my original comments; but, I think it only shows my ignorance. When I examine more closely the staff and notes.. I see on the AUGMENTED Unison, that it is indeed the root note augmented by a half step off the root (sharp), and that is exactly what I hear. I realize as I learn this, that one of the reasons I find music theory so complicated is that there seems to be more than one way to say the same thing. Which can be very confusing to beginners. As what you call something depends heavily on one's perspective and by that I mean, where one references from one's perspective. One man's or note's diminished is another man's or note's augmented. What I see in today's music theorists and teacher's is a tendency toward simplification by talking only about intervals, and leaving the historical lessons for later because while augementing the root, is diminishing the 2nd :-), the root takes precedence, and so, the sound is the most important aspect no matter what you call it, when comparing two notes. However, names being what they are, as in the midi files. Why duplicate when a single file will accomplish the same task over and over again. So, there is an important lesson to be learned just by understanding the naming conventions used by the author of the midi and for the concept of augmentation in the Wiki article. It's not enough that I was wrong. But, I think it sufficient to explain why I thought it was wrong. This is clarified when my poor eyesight clicked on the actual note notation, and I saw the Natural, with the sharp, which explans, I think everthing, when discussing the concept of augementation. We might think of that note as the next whole interval but flatted; but, for the sake of the root, it is augmented. :-)

In the end, these notes are as much for me, as they are for anyone wondering on or wandering onto the subject. :-)


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— Preceding Cyberchip (talk) 12:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On this page, for Augmented, Where the midi files are provided. I was expecting a unison sound, but, the midi when played actually plays the Root and the 2nd. This is not unison... right? So, when I look, I expect different notes than I think are displayed in the image above the midi. This seems to be so for most if not all of the Augmented section. Some of them sound right to me; but, I definitely feel for sure the Unison if off. If I already understood this; I would probably emphatically make a few more comments; but, fear I may be missing something. Can someone with more knowledge of this check on this?

I do think that the midi files are labeld correctly, and this is another clue.. like they're off by one from where one links to them... perhaps?

I don't do this often, come in and question a Wiki page; but, I feel I must for clarity... that's not a unison note. And not what I was just taught. :-/Cyberchip (talk) 11:30, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]