User talk:Marchjuly

"250 thousand"

You referred me to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers. Show me where this odd combination of numbers and "thousand" is stated to be preferable to either all numbers of all words in that article, because I did a search throughout the article for "thousand" and found no such advice. And when I said I've never seen this odd combination, I mean anywhere. I didn't do a search through Wikipedia; I simply have never seen this with thousands, as opposed to millions and higher numbers. Maybe it's standard somewhere outside the U.S., but I also spent two years in school in Malaysia and don't remember seeing this combination there, either. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:05, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Also, your edit summary seemed to be arguing for the edit I made! "Probably best to follow the guidance in MOS:NUMNOTES here and either keep them all as words or change them all to numerals." What did I do, and what did you do? Looks like you should follow your own advice and revert your edit. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Your edit changed content the from "a total population estimated to be between 250 thousand and 2.5 million" to "a total population estimated to be between 250,000 and 2.5 million". You changed thousand to ",000", but left "million" spelled out. That seemed odd to me and what is I was trying point out. I probably could've made that more clear in my edit summary instead of trying to use a short-cut link; so, my apologies for that. The first time such content was added to the article seems to have been here in 2014 as "250,000 to 2,500,000 individuals", but it's first appearance in the lead seems to have been made a few hours later by the same editor here as "250 thousand and 2.5 million individuals".

Anyway, my comment about searching Wikipedia was simply to add "250 thousand" to the "Search Wikipedia" box at the top of the page to see that "250 thousand" is used in quite a number of articles. I've got no idea as to what standard is followed in Malaysia or anywhere else outside the US states, but I don't necessarily agree with your assessment that it's uncommon, at least not in the US. I may be wrong, however, and will ask for clarification at WT:DATE. I will self-revert back to your version while things are being sorted. The current Eurasian eagle-owl#Status reads as "250,000 to 2,500,000 individual birds" and maybe that's how the lead should read as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:57, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

I have no problem with using the number 2,500,000 if that's what people want to do, but I would strongly assert that the weird "consistency" of "250 thousand and 2.5 million" is the worst possible solution and that there's nothing at all weird about "between 250,000 and 2.5 million". You see that kind of phrase all the time in publications like the New York Times. Their Manual of Style is not easily available for free online, but this is from AP's Style Guide. Find an example of "[digit] thousand" in it. Abbreviating the number "250K" is another matter but not for encyclopedia articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

As I posted above, it seemed odd to me, but I self-reverted because there are lots of things that seem a bit odd to me but aren't wrong per se. The discussion I started at WT:DATE clarified things a bit, which is fine. At least now, there will be something to link to which shows that there's a consensus against this type of usage if it ever comes up again. Thank you for the link to the AP guide. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

• There's complete agreement at WT:MOS that forms such as 250 thousand have no place, even when juxtaposed to 2.5 million. It's not worth adding something to MOS because it's an odd issue, but experienced editors are clear on the point. EEng 17:22, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
  • I was aware of the discussion, but thanks for the update. I was just asking for clarification on the usage; I wasn't really asking for an addition to be made to the MOS one way or another. I've got no problem with the outcome of the discussion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:01, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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