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Roth is described in multiple sources as English. In re-enforcing his English identity he states this was important when he went to the USA, on commenting on how nany other English actors were in the USA at that time and he didn't know if it could.[[User:Halbared|Halbared]] ([[User talk:Halbared|talk]]) 08:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC) |
Roth is described in multiple sources as English. In re-enforcing his English identity he states this was important when he went to the USA, on commenting on how nany other English actors were in the USA at that time and he didn't know if it could.[[User:Halbared|Halbared]] ([[User talk:Halbared|talk]]) 08:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC) |
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As well as multiple third party references, after looking at the guide on UK nationals; [[Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom#Guide_to_finding_UK_nationality]] it says, ''Look specifically for evidence that the person has a preferred nationality''.[[User:Halbared|Halbared]] ([[User talk:Halbared|talk]]) 08:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC) |
As well as multiple third party references, after looking at the guide on UK nationals; [[Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom#Guide_to_finding_UK_nationality]] it says, ''Look specifically for evidence that the person has a preferred nationality''.[[User:Halbared|Halbared]] ([[User talk:Halbared|talk]]) 08:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC) |
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If Roth's father Ernie Smith/Roth was born in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, New York, he was an American Citizen. Unless Roth's father went through the onerous process of renouncing his United State citizenship, Tim Roth would be an American or dual American-British citizen. That would explain why be was able to easily transition to Hollywood films. |
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German-Jewish surname
Roth is a German surname, not a German-Jewish one. Yes, Jews may also use this surname, but it's still a German surname. Many jewish names are German based.
- That seems like a good point. The name is as much a Nazi name as a Jewish one. The explanation does not ring true. The article says, "...partly through solidarity with the victims of the Holocaust, partly because the English were far from welcome in some of the countries to which his job took him" I know the English aren't the most popular people everywhere but surely immediately after the second world war the places Roth's father was likely to travel to would be more likely to accept an English surname than a German surname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 (talk) 19:07, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Also Smith is in the top 10 most common surnames in Ireland, held by people of all classes, backgrounds and religions, so highly unlikely it would make someone unpopular in the US? It would be interesting to find out in what countries Roth Snr travelled to where having a German surname during / after the war would make you more popular than having an English one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.62.204 (talk) 10:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
April Fools?
http://www.who-philes.com/?p=57 Alan (talk) 09:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- This is a blatant advert for a web site which just sells web domains. I think it should be deleted. Jodosma (talk) 12:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
A Taboo Subject ?
While making "The War Zone" Tim Roth gave few interviews - inculding a french one - where he said that he was abused when he was a child but it's not put on the article nor on imdb. Why ?
"Roth later admitted that he had been abused as a child. He tells me that it happened from a young age 'right through until I was probably 11'. He makes it clear that it wasn't his father. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/04/05/sm_timroth05.xml&page=2
ROTH IS A JEWISH NAME --
However, what sounds realLy suspect and quite ridiculous -- is the following -- "His father adopted the surname Roth after World War II in order to hide his nationality when traveling in countries hostile to the British" -- How silly. If anything, Europe was intensely PRO British after the war, and still, unashamedly anti Semitic. Jews were still being harrassed in pogroms all over Esdtern Europe even after the horrors of the holocaust were gradually more known to people, which, according to many academics, hurried on the founding of Israel.
If Roth's father had wanted to be accepted on his journeying -- going under a Brit or US name would certainly have won him many friends -- whilst choosing a Jewish name would have done the exact opposite in an areas still bligted by condescending and hateful anti Semtitism.And Roth IS a Jewish name, whatever a previous poster stated -- yes, it is also used by Gentiles, but it IS an Ashkenazi name.
http://www.genealoj.org/ENtexte/page15.html
http://surnames.behindthename.com/php/search.php?terms=Jewish&title=Jewish+Names&usage=yes
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Roth-name-meaning.ashx
So why did Roth assume a Jewish name? Who knows, but the explanation given ( by Roth himself ) is plain silly -- perhaps he just wanted an "actors name" which would attract interest. After all, may do the same in music and acting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.138.57.171 (talk) 01:15, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Roth goes into great detail into all of this, and his family background, in this interview. All Hallow's (talk) 01:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Being British was unpopular with Jews in some quarters immediately after the war because of Britain limiting Jewish immigration to Palestine, a fact that completely neglects the point that if it hadn't been for the British fighting Nazism in 1939-45 there would not have been a European Jew left alive in 1945.
- The British limited Jewish immigration for reasons that should by now appear self-evident, i.e., to prevent the Palestinians from losing control over their own country. Originally the plan was for portions of Palestine to be set aside for Jewish settlers with the full agreement of the Palestinians, which had been forthcoming, however that came to naught due to interference from outsiders.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.173.73 (talk) 10:07, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Tales from the Crypt
I noticed Tim isn't being credited with his acting role in the Tales of the Crypt episode "Easel Kill Ya". Is there a reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.125.115 (talk) 16:36, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Broken release date
In the article, it's written that the release date for Broken is in 2014, and that it's "Filming". Except that it's already out in Europe (at least in France, since last week). A bit of editing is in order, I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.2.8.151 (talk) 19:15, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Footy?
86.150.200.148 (talk) 06:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC) In Lie To Me, Tim's often seen wearing a 'classic' West Ham scarf. I reckon that's his team. 86.150.200.148 (talk) 06:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Many articles on British personalities contain the football club they support. For example, I just discovered that our Ninth Doctor is a fellow Manchester United supporter, while Billy Bragg prefers West Ham United. Would there be some way to find out which club, if any, Mr. Roth supports, and if so would that be worth including in the article? - 199.7.158.78 (talk) 15:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- Google searching hadn't helped me, but a friend a friend had a vague memory of him indicating on twitter that he's a Man U supporter as well, and I wasn't even aware that he was on twitter, so I narrowed my search to twitter and found this conversation (for some reason I couldn't find it searching Roth's account, but it showed up attached to a response). There's also a "verified" stamp by Roth's username, which to me suggests that Wikipedia's standards of citation have likely been met, but I'm not an expert in these matters, any insight from more experienced 'pedians would be nice. - 199.7.158.78 (talk) 17:00, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
another fillm for the list..
Hi, just wanted to add the film Liar, to Tim Roth's list, a 1998 film also with Renee Zellwegger. Not sure how to edit the main article so if someone could add it. thank you. 82.31.230.232 (talk) 13:27, 5 October 2014 (UTC) EJB.
Джек Рот
Странно, что в английской версии Википедии такая маленькая и скудная статья о великом актере? И почему-то нет интервик о сыне Тима Рота - Джек Рот, а ведь он подающий надежды актер и классно сыграл роль в английском сериале "Великое ограбление поезда" (2013)??? Монах - Сибиряк (talk) 22:43, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
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English/British
Roth is described in multiple sources as English. In re-enforcing his English identity he states this was important when he went to the USA, on commenting on how nany other English actors were in the USA at that time and he didn't know if it could.Halbared (talk) 08:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC) As well as multiple third party references, after looking at the guide on UK nationals; Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom#Guide_to_finding_UK_nationality it says, Look specifically for evidence that the person has a preferred nationality.Halbared (talk) 08:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
American citizenship
If Roth's father Ernie Smith/Roth was born in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, New York, he was an American Citizen. Unless Roth's father went through the onerous process of renouncing his United State citizenship, Tim Roth would be an American or dual American-British citizen. That would explain why be was able to easily transition to Hollywood films.
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