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There's a very old user script you can add to [[Special:Mypage/common.js|your global script file]] which will highlight admins in bright blue. Just add <code>importScript('User:Ais523/adminrights.js');</code> to that script file. — <b>[[User:HandThatFeeds|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">The Hand That Feeds You</span>]]:<sup>[[User talk:HandThatFeeds|Bite]]</sup></b> 17:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC) |
There's a very old user script you can add to [[Special:Mypage/common.js|your global script file]] which will highlight admins in bright blue. Just add <code>importScript('User:Ais523/adminrights.js');</code> to that script file. — <b>[[User:HandThatFeeds|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">The Hand That Feeds You</span>]]:<sup>[[User talk:HandThatFeeds|Bite]]</sup></b> 17:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Phew! I thought you were an editor coming to drop a figurative nuclear bomb on me. My experiences were certainly 'unique', these last few days. But yup, I'll keep that in mind, how to identify who is & isn't an administrator. Thanks. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay#top|talk]]) 17:35, 17 July 2022 (UTC) |
:Phew! I thought you were an editor coming to drop a figurative nuclear bomb on me. My experiences were certainly 'unique', these last few days. But yup, I'll keep that in mind, how to identify who is & isn't an administrator. Thanks. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay#top|talk]]) 17:35, 17 July 2022 (UTC) |
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I've encountered an editor making unexplained (and apparently false) changes[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1098080489][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1098080115] to the ordering of India's former presidents in their articles; I've reverted the linked edits. How should this be addressed behaviorally? [[User:CraigP459|CraigP459]] ([[User talk:CraigP459|talk]]) 03:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC) |
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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).
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You may be wondering why my archives only start at August 2007. The reason: I didn't archive my pages before that date, I merely deleted them (as I didn't know how to archive). Therefore, if anyone wishes to see material before August 2007? check out this talkpage's 'history'.
Awards
I've an Awards page, where I keep a list of Wikipedia awards bestowed upon me.
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A suggestion
You might want to remove this comment before someone replies to it on that talk page. That sort of battleground mentality is really not helpful in what you already know to be an already fraught topic area. Sideswipe9th (talk) 22:58, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sideswipe9th:, it's that kinda heavy restriction on those talkpages, that causes such friction. Anyways, if you want to 'remove' my post? then by all means, do so. GoodDay (talk) 23:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh my. Those restrictions are quite, quite necessary. If you want to see what unrestricted dialogue between pro and anti trans commentators looks like, Twitter and Reddit are both good places to start.
- In any event, per WP:TPO it's not really appropriate for me to remove that comment directly, as it doesn't fit any of the criteria for removal by another. That's why I suggested it here. Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:07, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I wont't be responding to anybody, who responds to it. I haven't been overly involved with LGBTQ stuff, since earlier this year. When I got the impression that a user can use a gay-pride flag on his userpage, but can't use a straight-pride flag? That pretty much told me, what direction the majority of editors in the LGBTQ topic, were pointing. GoodDay (talk) 23:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- And tell us, GoodDay, how do you feel about displaying white power signs and flags? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bastun: Flags/signs are only flags/signs & those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance. GoodDay (talk) 14:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Uh-huh. And in your part of Canada, are many white people subject to discrimination by the people-of-colour community? Do many straight people get assaulted by the LGBT community, for being straight? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 19:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance. GoodDay (talk) 19:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- And those who preach intolerance tend to practice tolerance? (Sorry - couldn't help myself!)Sarah777 (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Haven't seen you in ages, Sarah777. Howdy. GoodDay (talk) 19:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Been busy with RL! Back to rating IrlProj articles now. Back in the salad days of 2006-2009 we weren't even aware of this issue! At least I wasn't Sarah777 (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Haven't seen you in ages, Sarah777. Howdy. GoodDay (talk) 19:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- And those who preach intolerance tend to practice tolerance? (Sorry - couldn't help myself!)Sarah777 (talk) 19:52, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance. GoodDay (talk) 19:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Uh-huh. And in your part of Canada, are many white people subject to discrimination by the people-of-colour community? Do many straight people get assaulted by the LGBT community, for being straight? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 19:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bastun: Flags/signs are only flags/signs & those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance. GoodDay (talk) 14:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- And tell us, GoodDay, how do you feel about displaying white power signs and flags? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I wont't be responding to anybody, who responds to it. I haven't been overly involved with LGBTQ stuff, since earlier this year. When I got the impression that a user can use a gay-pride flag on his userpage, but can't use a straight-pride flag? That pretty much told me, what direction the majority of editors in the LGBTQ topic, were pointing. GoodDay (talk) 23:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia has taken quite a left turn, since 2009. GoodDay (talk) 19:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- To me "left" was basically a wealth distribution concept. Seems indeed that things have changed! Sarah777 (talk) 21:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Political correctness, cancel culture, etc. The place has changed. GoodDay (talk) 22:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Surely that hasn't infected Wikipedia? I'd never believe that...Sarah777 (talk) 22:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Cancel culture"?! Call it by it's proper name! A longstanding tradition that means nothing more than "Your actions and words have consequences." And do I really need to get out my Neil Gaiman quote about political correctness? "It's treating other with people with respect gone mad!" BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance. GoodDay (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Bastun! I guess you'd be the first to approve of the fact that "Your actions and words have consequences" in China and Russia too? Sarah777 (talk) 22:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure of the point you're making, Sarah777, but in Ireland, the people complaining about so-called "cancel culture" (as opposed to, say, state censorship) tend to be the ones who have national newspaper columns and/or radio shows to do their complaining from. The David Quinns, Brenda Powers and Breda O'Briens of the media world. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:26, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Take a peek over at the Jordan Peterson page. Attempts are being made (and will likely succeed) to partial or totally remove (i.e. censure) the 'tweet', that he was blocked from Twitter for. That's just one example. Wouldn't be surprised, if the next step was an attempt to delete his entire page. GoodDay (talk) 13:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. Why on earth would we amplify his tweet that deadnamed someone - in breach of at least two guidelines, at that? I don't think anyone is suggesting a page deletion, either - where's that happening, or are you just using a slippery slope argument? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 19:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've no interest in joining the discussion at the Peterson page, as I already know what the outcome will be. I also know that any editor(s) who have an opposite position on that outcome, will be accused of being anti-trans, etc & eventually topic-banned or worst. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Huh. Oddly, even though I know you keep an eye on AN/I, and you're evidently an advocate of free speech, you never sprang to my defence when someone tried to get me [1] topic-banned from that very area... 🤔 I guess there's cancel culture, and cancel culture... 🙄 BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've no interest in joining the discussion at the Peterson page, as I already know what the outcome will be. I also know that any editor(s) who have an opposite position on that outcome, will be accused of being anti-trans, etc & eventually topic-banned or worst. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. Why on earth would we amplify his tweet that deadnamed someone - in breach of at least two guidelines, at that? I don't think anyone is suggesting a page deletion, either - where's that happening, or are you just using a slippery slope argument? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 19:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well Bastun, it's like this. While I probably disagree with many/most "anti-woke" positions, I do believe that "cancel culture" is a real thing. When Corporate entities like Google, Twitter, Facebook etcetera, plus the Corporate media, start to censor opinions they don't like, that, de facto, is the same as what is happening in, say, China. Instead of the CCP dictating acceptable opinion, we have a branch of the Western oligarchy doing so. At the moment there appears to be a divide between two wings of that oligarchy, like Swift's big and small enders. Don't mistake that for any principled difference - or a difference between how the Chinese State or the Western State works. And as we are trading our free speech credentials, I have never once called, voted for or advocated the banning or blocking of anyone on Wikipedia. Sarah777 (talk) 23:13, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I dunno. I've tried reporting actual white-supremacist, racist and/or anti-LGBT posts on Twitter and Facebook, that are literally advocating violence, and been told "Nah, that's grand, within our terms of service." And I have also seen David Quinn, Breda O'Brien and similar rail against cancel culture - from their weekly, nationally syndicated newspaper columns and regular guest spots on TV/radio shows. If I choose to no longer buy the newspapers that platform their anti-LGBT views, sure, I guess you can call that cancel culture, but it's a stretch, and no, it's really nothing like the CCP not only denying someone a voice in state media but also putting them into a "re-education" camp. YMMV. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:04, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think you have a naïve view of how the Western Corporate media works - I tend to agree with Chomsky on the topic. And I think you understate the threat of "cancel culture" to free speech. Threats of violence are serious offences in most countries - "railing" against something isn't supposed to be - at least in the West. As someone who detests, for example, white supremacy or religious beliefs being imposed on non-believers (abortion is an example IMO) - I do worry that "liberals" are edging towards mirroring the authoritarianism they claim to oppose. Sarah777 (talk) 21:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- I dunno. I've tried reporting actual white-supremacist, racist and/or anti-LGBT posts on Twitter and Facebook, that are literally advocating violence, and been told "Nah, that's grand, within our terms of service." And I have also seen David Quinn, Breda O'Brien and similar rail against cancel culture - from their weekly, nationally syndicated newspaper columns and regular guest spots on TV/radio shows. If I choose to no longer buy the newspapers that platform their anti-LGBT views, sure, I guess you can call that cancel culture, but it's a stretch, and no, it's really nothing like the CCP not only denying someone a voice in state media but also putting them into a "re-education" camp. YMMV. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:04, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Take a peek over at the Jordan Peterson page. Attempts are being made (and will likely succeed) to partial or totally remove (i.e. censure) the 'tweet', that he was blocked from Twitter for. That's just one example. Wouldn't be surprised, if the next step was an attempt to delete his entire page. GoodDay (talk) 13:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure of the point you're making, Sarah777, but in Ireland, the people complaining about so-called "cancel culture" (as opposed to, say, state censorship) tend to be the ones who have national newspaper columns and/or radio shows to do their complaining from. The David Quinns, Brenda Powers and Breda O'Briens of the media world. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:26, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Bastun! I guess you'd be the first to approve of the fact that "Your actions and words have consequences" in China and Russia too? Sarah777 (talk) 22:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance. GoodDay (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Political correctness, cancel culture, etc. The place has changed. GoodDay (talk) 22:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
You ticked me off, years ago. I never forget being agitated by any editor, but I don't seek revenge. I merely withhold my support, when they get themselves in trouble. GoodDay (talk) 21:59, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting juxtaposition...
Those who preach tolerance, tend to practice intolerance
... First they came for the socialists... BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)- You see things your way & I see things my way. GoodDay (talk) 22:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Bastun. Wikipedia is also pro-devolution (see discussions at WP:BOXING & Lennox Lewis, for examples), when it comes to British BLPs & pro-foreign language style (those old diacritics discussions of years gone by), when considering the name of many bios & places. Heck, on the latter part, just look at how you sign your name. In the American political pages, particularly high-profile BLPs, there's a pro-establishment Democratic bias. That's the way the winds are blowing (i.e. majority of editors) & have been, these last few years. GoodDay (talk) 19:43, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- How I sign my name? "Egads, Bastun" is - ironically - Ye Olde English, and I adopted it only after Sarah777 used the phrase when leaving me a message, many years ago! As for the rest, I think you and I may both be suffering from cognitive bias, at least in some respects. E.g., I gave up trying to edit the Donald Trump article late into his election campaign/early into his presidency, when if you tried to include anything critical, it got filibustered away for a month at least with an RfC. So as far as I am concerned, Wikipedia is "pro-establishment Republican." Anyway, your note on my talk page is noted, I'll move on! BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:14, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- You ain't been the Trump page lately. GoodDay (talk) 15:40, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
@Newimpartial: I have seen your 2022 contributions. Again, consider my friendly suggestion, going forward. GoodDay (talk) 20:42, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
@Masterhatch: as you can see, my prediction about the Peterson page, is coming to pass. I've noticed over the months, that the ratio of editors getting the DS warning on said-general topic, tends to be mostly tilted towards one side. GoodDay (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's quite the strong aspersion to be casting. Have you got any evidence to support it? Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:27, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm currently considering starting a discussion over there, on 'how' a certain MoS is being used. At the moment, I haven't decided yet, as I know the perils involved, if I were to do so. That hesitation, is an example of the chilling effect one gets, from the MoS-in-question. GoodDay (talk) 18:31, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's a non-sequitur and didn't really answer the question on evidence to support
the ratio of editors getting the DS warning on said-general topic
. Even if you're referring to folks receiving the ds/alert for WP:ARBATC, or you're referring to editors receiving the WP:GENSEX and/or WP:ARBBLP sanctions, that seems very out of scope for a discussion at one of the MOS talk pages and would probably best be held at WP:ARCA or WP:ARC. Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)- I don't deny the perils involved, with the topic-in-general. As I already mentioned, it's on my mind for the time being. FWIW, (a slightly different topic, but related) an editor (not you) seems to be involved in multiple concurrent pages & page discussions related to said-topic. Where ever such a discussion is occurring, that editor is there. If the individual-in-question, has hundreds of those pages (bio & non-bios) on a watchlist? That's not good & could be in own territory. But, I'll let someone else worry or deal with that. GoodDay (talk) 18:47, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Without knowing the specifics of that editor's situation or how they are contributing to those articles, I can only say that editing along one's interests regardless of how broad or narrow they may be, isn't inherently a problem. Again though you're casting unsupported aspersions about an anonymous editor, which is never a good thing to do on wiki. If you have a concern about an editor's conduct, you already are quite familiar with the appropriate noticeboards upon which to raise it. Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't report editors to any boards, as long as they're not edit-warring. GoodDay (talk) 18:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Without knowing the specifics of that editor's situation or how they are contributing to those articles, I can only say that editing along one's interests regardless of how broad or narrow they may be, isn't inherently a problem. Again though you're casting unsupported aspersions about an anonymous editor, which is never a good thing to do on wiki. If you have a concern about an editor's conduct, you already are quite familiar with the appropriate noticeboards upon which to raise it. Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't deny the perils involved, with the topic-in-general. As I already mentioned, it's on my mind for the time being. FWIW, (a slightly different topic, but related) an editor (not you) seems to be involved in multiple concurrent pages & page discussions related to said-topic. Where ever such a discussion is occurring, that editor is there. If the individual-in-question, has hundreds of those pages (bio & non-bios) on a watchlist? That's not good & could be in own territory. But, I'll let someone else worry or deal with that. GoodDay (talk) 18:47, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's a non-sequitur and didn't really answer the question on evidence to support
- I'm currently considering starting a discussion over there, on 'how' a certain MoS is being used. At the moment, I haven't decided yet, as I know the perils involved, if I were to do so. That hesitation, is an example of the chilling effect one gets, from the MoS-in-question. GoodDay (talk) 18:31, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sideswipe9th. I'm going to have to ask you 'not' to contact me, anymore. GoodDay (talk) 23:52, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Staying out of it
My apologies, @Emli89:, @Crossroads:, @Taramalan:. I shouldn't have stuck my nose into your business. GoodDay (talk) 15:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- No apologies needed as far as I am concerned. I was able to have civil conversations with you, without pointlessly dragging the topic. I will continue to look forward to your edits, and hope we can have a good editing time ;D Emli89 (talk) 16:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Crossroads, seems to be followed by the same one or two editors, in nearly every trans-related content dispute. GoodDay (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Very soon @Crossroads:, I won't be allowed to participate in the TERF RFC anymore. But, I will be watching how it turns out. GoodDay (talk) 02:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Won't be allowed? Why? Crossroads -talk- 02:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Crossroads:, I've been reported to WP:AE, for apparently breaching WP:GENSEX discretionary sanctions. I'm not gonna bother fighting it. GoodDay (talk) 02:52, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it looks like you've gone beyond merely not fighting it but actually requested it there. Ah well. I would have commented in favor of just a warning, but if you want to be topic banned, I can't do anything about that. Crossroads -talk- 04:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Crossroads: I don't want to be topic banned (as though I were guilty) and would certainly appreciate any comments there, from you. I just couldn't think of any other way to end the harassment & hounding. Having my post messed with at the Jordan Peterson discussion, was the breaking point. GoodDay (talk) 04:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it looks like you've gone beyond merely not fighting it but actually requested it there. Ah well. I would have commented in favor of just a warning, but if you want to be topic banned, I can't do anything about that. Crossroads -talk- 04:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Crossroads:, I've been reported to WP:AE, for apparently breaching WP:GENSEX discretionary sanctions. I'm not gonna bother fighting it. GoodDay (talk) 02:52, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- FWIW, I've rescinded my 'topic-ban' request. Reading over bits there, has made me realise that I'm not the only one who's been pushed to such levels of frustration. GoodDay (talk) 04:21, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Hope you're doing well @Emil89:, bee cool :) GoodDay (talk) 03:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Saskatchewan - deletion of type of government
Hi GoodDay, was there a discussion anywhere of this issue? I just see references to Nikkimaria's change to Manitoba, but I don't see where it's been discussed? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:51, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: By all means, open up an RFC at WP:CANADA's talkpage. I'm only concerned with all the provinces & territories being in sync on that topic. It doesn't matter to me if the two parameters are included or excluded. GoodDay (talk) 17:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Re your NB/PEI deletions/revert deletions: I do need time to feed the dog, and other IRL things. :) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:06, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just keep an eye out for Niki at Manitoba. GoodDay (talk) 21:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Re your NB/PEI deletions/revert deletions: I do need time to feed the dog, and other IRL things. :) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:06, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Dang, that RFC has slowed down. GoodDay (talk) 03:25, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Kedah?
Reading the archive here [the List of the Longest Reigning Monarchs] you claimed that "Thailand (then Siam), had 'unwanted' influence." On Kedah can you give a Source In Which it is said that Thailand/Siam had this on Kedah? Jackal Himorse (talk) 03:57, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Jackal Himorse: another editor made that claim. GoodDay (talk) 03:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- And who was that Editor? GoodDay. Jackal Himorse (talk) 04:33, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's a while ago. I can't remember. GoodDay (talk) 04:36, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- And who was that Editor? GoodDay. Jackal Himorse (talk) 04:33, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
I am readding him to the Top List until Someone can Find a Realiable Source that states Thailand did that to Kedah Jackal Himorse (talk) 04:47, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- I honestly don't know what you're going on about. Whatever it is, you don't need my permission. GoodDay (talk) 04:48, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Possible sock
If you have not noticed yet, User:Tschrwh has taken up where User:Tscdrwh left off. - Donald Albury 17:38, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury: I do believe that socking is involved. GoodDay (talk) 17:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
The following sanction now applies to you:
Indefinite topic ban for the topic of Gender and Sexuality (WP:GENSEX)), broadly construed.
You have been sanctioned https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=1098437123&oldid=1098436366
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender and sexuality#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Going to keep this notice in place, in case editors ping me to discussions I was active in & am no longer able to participate. GoodDay (talk) 23:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- You're not the first editor that had problems adapting to a topic ban in the first few days, so don't feel bad. That is why I offered my ear before you make any edit there is any question about. Again, my goal isn't to find a way to block you (I could have done that at the AE report, without question), it's to 1. restore calm on gensex topics, and 2. help you move on to constructive edits in other areas. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 10:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll be alright @Dennis Brown: & will remember to check with you (or if you're not on the 'pedia) other administrators, when I'm not certain about an article. But my goodness, some of those editors' posts at WP:AN? were very borderline aggressive. I reviewed some of their userpages, to see 'who' they were. GoodDay (talk) 13:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- You're not the first editor that had problems adapting to a topic ban in the first few days, so don't feel bad. That is why I offered my ear before you make any edit there is any question about. Again, my goal isn't to find a way to block you (I could have done that at the AE report, without question), it's to 1. restore calm on gensex topics, and 2. help you move on to constructive edits in other areas. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 10:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- PS - Some day all seek a restructuring or appeal of the t-ban. But for now, I'll keep rolling along. Albeit, more cautiously :) GoodDay (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- And I'm likely to support a lifting at that time. Technically, I can lift it without input from anyone else because I issued it as a DS sanction, although most of the time, community input is desirable. No other admin can lift it by themselves. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Dennis. For now, I'll consider the t-ban as a protective shield, as there's at least a few (see the comments by some at WP:AN?) editors out there that were quite aggressive. GoodDay (talk) 13:34, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- And I'm likely to support a lifting at that time. Technically, I can lift it without input from anyone else because I issued it as a DS sanction, although most of the time, community input is desirable. No other admin can lift it by themselves. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:31, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- PS - Some day all seek a restructuring or appeal of the t-ban. But for now, I'll keep rolling along. Albeit, more cautiously :) GoodDay (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- PS - I was quite surprised. That one of the commenting editors there (according to @Mr Ernie:'s observation), had apparently used the 'bad word' against an other editor, on multiple occasions in the past. But wasn't reprimanded (to my knowledge) for it. Oh well. GoodDay (talk) 13:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Consider this your only warning not to rebroadcast aspersions against other editors. SPECIFICO talk 14:06, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- They got an IBAN for it. Mr Ernie (talk) 14:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- This is false. Consider this your warning not to make false or unevidenced aspersions against other editors. SPECIFICO talk 18:51, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SPECIFICO:, please take this disagreement someplace else (your talkpage or Mr Ernie's) & don't contact me here again. GoodDay (talk) 19:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for SPECIFICO. FYI, GoodDay, it's hard to fix a ping if you don't get the username right the first time. See H:PINGFIX for more info. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:27, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I didn't know capitalising & uncapitalising would make a difference in pinging. GoodDay (talk) 19:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for SPECIFICO. FYI, GoodDay, it's hard to fix a ping if you don't get the username right the first time. See H:PINGFIX for more info. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:27, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @SPECIFICO:, please take this disagreement someplace else (your talkpage or Mr Ernie's) & don't contact me here again. GoodDay (talk) 19:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- This is false. Consider this your warning not to make false or unevidenced aspersions against other editors. SPECIFICO talk 18:51, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- PS - I was quite surprised. That one of the commenting editors there (according to @Mr Ernie:'s observation), had apparently used the 'bad word' against an other editor, on multiple occasions in the past. But wasn't reprimanded (to my knowledge) for it. Oh well. GoodDay (talk) 13:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Ban review
GD, I would suggest taking a pause before sending out a review request. The critical thing here is to make it clear that the problem people identified won't happen again. For what it's worth I always suggest strictly sticking to facts/avoiding snarky comments about other editors etc. I know it's easy to do and I suspect if I let myself do it I would have been blocked a while back. Taking a pause will help show this isn't a hot headed reply (very easy to do). Far more than once I've started typing something then thought better of it and was glad I didn't say it in the end. It's clear that a number of editors see value in your contributions even when they don't agree with you. Think about that as you go into this. Happy editing! Springee (talk) 21:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm quite upset & feel as though I'm being punished. I've already posted at WP:AN. Been here for nearly 17-years & never felt so wrongly 'figuratively' over-punished. GoodDay (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- You are welcome to email me if you would like to discuss further. Springee (talk) 21:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Springee, but I don't have email. Within hours I could edit a bio (for example) & not notice what topic it's related to & then BAM. I meant the apologies for the mistakes I made. But no, I'm immediately branded a bad editor, who must be heavily restricted :( GoodDay (talk) 21:54, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- You are welcome to email me if you would like to discuss further. Springee (talk) 21:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm going to hold off from editing any pages, while things are being clarified. PS - I don't even know, if I'm allowed to even post about any of this 'here'? GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Unsolicited advice, take ANI off your watchlist and consider your appeal withdrawn, reading and engaging is only going to drive you crazy. And yeah, I'd avoid discussing the sanction outside of a future appeal, just will be more frustration, dramaboards, and potential admin action. Slywriter (talk) 04:37, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's sound advice. I shall follow it. I am feeling like crap, right now. But don't worry. I'm not feeling suicidal. GoodDay (talk) 04:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Slywriter: Actually that's not entirely true. I was thinking of calling a suicide line, but I think I'll be alright. Again, I have removed the board from my watchlist, on your advice. Two or three of the criticisms there on the board, appear borderline abusive to me. GoodDay (talk) 04:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
I chatted months ago with @Peter Ormond: about going through a nervous breakdown, March-May 2021 -little to no edits during that time period shows it. I'm doing what I can to keep it together, Peter. GoodDay (talk) 05:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
self care comments
- Hi Good Day, I've dealt with suicidal thoughts off and on for decades. One thing I have learned is that talk therapy is ho hum by itself. Medication is ho hum by itself. But both together, under the care of a clinic that specializes in such care... that's the ticket. Every other attempt to get away from the feelings....booze, wikipedia...whatever....those are all just coping mechanisms until you're getting proper care. The first steps are the hardest. Good luck NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 08:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll be alright @NewsAndEventsGuy:. Was just kinda overwhelmed by some of the comments towards me at WP:AN. A few editors (not all of them) just went borderline if not overboard. You'd of thought, I had committed the worst crime of world history. GoodDay (talk) 13:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Aliens
I don't think they'll ever come to Earth. They'll take one look at the current state of affairs, pull a quick U-turn and say NOPE. Them lot are bonkers
. Meh, whatever. – 2.O.Boxing 11:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, after reading some of the editors' comments at WP:AN, yesterday. I sure got an education, on how much anger some individuals have inside. GoodDay (talk) 13:19, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Is somebody cross with you G'Day? Surely not?! Sarah777 (talk) 21:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- When earlier, I mentioned how much the project had changed in the last few years. I sure weren't exaggerating. GoodDay (talk) 21:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- As you know, myself and the project weren't always happy campers! Sarah777 (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- I remember. GoodDay (talk) 23:08, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- As you know, myself and the project weren't always happy campers! Sarah777 (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- When earlier, I mentioned how much the project had changed in the last few years. I sure weren't exaggerating. GoodDay (talk) 21:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Is somebody cross with you G'Day? Surely not?! Sarah777 (talk) 21:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
@Squared.Circle.Boxing: you gave me a heck of a good laugh today. But be careful. Once your intentions are mis-represented? You can end up outnumbered & floored, quickly. GoodDay (talk) 17:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's still a valid point. It's a minefield out there. – 2.O.Boxing 18:27, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Identifying Admins
Hello! I noticed on WP:AN you were having trouble identifying who was an admin from their replies.
There's a very old user script you can add to your global script file which will highlight admins in bright blue. Just add importScript('User:Ais523/adminrights.js');
to that script file. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 17:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Phew! I thought you were an editor coming to drop a figurative nuclear bomb on me. My experiences were certainly 'unique', these last few days. But yup, I'll keep that in mind, how to identify who is & isn't an administrator. Thanks. GoodDay (talk) 17:35, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Behavior concern
I've encountered an editor making unexplained (and apparently false) changes[2][3] to the ordering of India's former presidents in their articles; I've reverted the linked edits. How should this be addressed behaviorally? CraigP459 (talk) 03:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC)