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Hi Julius Sahara! Judging from your contributions, you might be interested in the Africa-related regional notice board and in Wikiproject Countering Systemic Bias. It's good to have you on board; we are always in need of more editors on matters related to Africa. Regards, — mark ✎ 11:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link. Maybe it proves useful. Julius Sahara 11:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lamu District=Lamu Islands?

Hi, I see you have contributed to Kenyan geography, so I thought I could put the following question to you: I´m presently editing some on the Lamu Archipelago (=Lamu Islands), which include Lamu Island, (with Lamu Town), Manda Island and Pate Island. I recently found that there was a stub called Lamu District. My question is: what is the difference between Lamu District and Lamu Archipelago? Do you know? (Besides the obvious, that one denotes a geographical aerea, and the other an administrative one.) Do they not cover the same aerea? If you have any knowledge about this, I would greatly appriciate it if you could reply on Talk:Lamu District. Thanks. Regards, Huldra 16:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Cricket

Hi Julius, I saw that you added an external link to Kenyan cricket team. You may be interested in joining this project. We have no Kenyans are part of our team and it would be great if we did. Thanks Gizza^Chat ^© 05:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but actually my level of knowledge on cricket is low. I just found that link and thought it should be linked on an article related to Kenyan cricket. Julius Sahara 06:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Thanks Ezeu! Julius Sahara 16:29, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

for creating 2006 African Championships in Athletics! Punkmorten 11:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- and I would like to thank all your efforts in creating Athletics content here at Wikipedia! Julius Sahara 21:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could create 2004 African Championships in Athletics, 2002 etc.? Kenya did well there too ;) Punkmorten 17:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but there are quite a lot of things keeping me busy, inside and outside wikipedia. I can make the article, but really can't promise when! Julius Sahara 18:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maraba Coffee

Hello! As you're a Wikipedian interested in African topics, I'm writing to notify you that the Maraba Coffee article is now a 'Featured Article Candidate'. Please feel free to evaluate the article and write your support or opposition at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Thanks — SteveRwanda 15:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Steve! Its a good article. However, I'm not used to to these wikipedia votings so, I'm not yet sure whether I will vote. Julius Sahara 15:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's alright. I don't often vote on Featured Articles myself either - not really sure what to look for! Have a good night, and congrats on all your good work on East African articles. SteveRwanda 16:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Junkers Ju 252

Your recent edit to Junkers Ju 252 (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 18:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me explain...The article was written in German, I removed all the text and replaced with one English sentence. AVB didn't like it, but the situation was soon solved. My policy is that if an article is important enough to be included in Wikipedia it should never get deleted, no matter how badly it is written. Replacing it with a very short description is not the best possible solution, but easy to carry out. Since then someone has expanded the article, which, luckily had not been deleted. Julius Sahara 18:54, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Eyango

I have deleted this page per WP:CSD#A7. The article does not state the artist's notability. If you like, you are welcome to re-create the article, citing reliable sources that establish notability. An article that simply says, "X is a musician from place Y" is not sufficient for an encyclopedia entry. -- Merope 15:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it wasn't well written, but I'm not too happy about the way it was deleted. I'm not a expert on Makossa music, but after a short research I was more than convinced that this artists is notable enough for a wikipedia article. Despite my disagreement, it was deleted as speedy, even though I suggested using AfD instead. Then there could had been time to expand then article. Julius Sahara 15:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to VandalProof! 1.3

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Julius Sahara! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page and please note this is VP 1.3 not 1.2.2 see this for the approved list. Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 06:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mathare

Hi Julius. I see you found the article on Mathare I created (I noticed you had it on your to do list via the whatlinkshere feature.) You're obviously more knowledgeable about Kenya than me, so I'm wondering if you could help me with this question: Are Mathare and Mathare Valley the same place? Some websites that I've found refer to them as if they were one, while others treat Mathare Valley as one of several slums that comprise Mathare. For now, I've redirected Mathare Valley to Mathare, and tagged it with {{R with possibilities}}. Picaroon9288 21:44, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Mathare Valley, as its name suggest, a valley in Nairobi. The Mathare slum is situated around the valley. I believe the terms Mathare and Mathare Valley are used interchangeably when referring the slum. The slum itself is quite large large, so it might be divided into "villages", just like Kibera (another large slum in Nairobi). Julius Sahara 22:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mwai Kibaki

Wikipedia has a strict policy about unsourced and potentially libelous material about a living person, any living person. The unsourced libelous statements in the article on Mwai Kibaki will not be allowed to stand. Simply add a citation to any potentially libelous statement, if true, to a verifiable source and the statement can stand.

Statements such as this amount to gossip without sources and do not belong, again without sources, on Wikipedia:

"Kibaki is also reported to have a second spouse, Mary Wambui, with whom he has a daughter namely Wangui Mwai. Though officially the State House has denied Wambui status as his wife, she is provided all the trappings of a presidential spouse including armed bodyguards & limousines. Mary Wambui is also a National Rainbow Coalition activist."

Please stop reverting changes that remove such from this article. A lot of the information you keep adding back can be kept if properly sourced, and much of it is easily sourcable. However, it cannot remain without sources.

The article also needs serious copyedit work.

Here are some relevant policies that you should read regarding unsourced charges of corruption, conspiracies and the like, even when dealing with political figures:

Wikipedia:Citing sources When adding material to the biography of a living person Main article: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons Biographies of living persons should be sourced with particular care, for legal and ethical reasons. All negative material about living persons must be sourced to a reliable source. Do not wait for another editor to request a source. If you find unsourced or poorly sourced negative material about a living person — whether in an article or on a talk page — remove it immediately.

The person removing this material is simply doing what is required of all good Wikipedia editors, removing unsourced negative material about a living person. And it is not allowed to stay on Wikipedia without a source. Please review this policy to make certain you understand it. The comments must be removed for now, and may only be reinserted WITH PROPER CITATIONS.

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons

KP Botany 19:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, those rumors are very often cited on Kenyan media. I added some references, since you are right that such claims certainly need them. What I did, I restored older version of the page, since User:Patch77, has a history of disturbing the article with adding copyvio text and removing content. I'm sorry I had to remove your wikify edits too, since they were made just after the edits by Patch77. Julius Sahara 20:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the rumors are probably sourcable, though, as he is well-studied in the peer-reviewed literature. Well, the copyedits were minor and that happens, so no biggie. However, I am going to copyedit the article in the next day or two, because it is simply ugly, and I will remove all unsupported negative comments. I will watch to make certain it is not right after a Patch77 edit, but please do not reinsert the unsupported negative comments without a source or revert without verifying what is being reverted. Thank you. KP Botany 20:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think at this point you should request that Patch77 be blocked from continuing to remove the information. However, you must do it without edit-warring, ie, without adding it back every time he/she removes it. KP Botany 22:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have already considered it. However, obviously Patch77 edits also when not logged in, thus blocking may have little effect. According to those IP:s, he/she may be based in Eastern US and edits only during office hours there. I will watch whether Patch77 edits it this weekend or next week. Julius Sahara 22:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But he/she does not appear to be trying to hide behind an IP, so just add the IPs to the request. Just be careful about continuing to revert the edits yourself. Cheers, KP Botany 22:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work on this article, and the great Washington Post reference. Wizzy…☎ 07:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"List entry" redirects in List of African athletes--understood.

I understand completely. Feel free to revert the edits if you must. There was a problem on the Special:BrokenRedirects page: Each redlink on the African athletes list page was appearing on that page as the "target" of the redirect, until the last redlink on the list page was "reset" (I don't know why). Watch this space and I'll see what I can do to correct the situation for you. Schweiwikist (talk) 19:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a list of the items I changed (sorry, they're in the order that I made the changes) hope it's helpful:

At least you have a list to work from. It wasn't any trouble to generate. Schweiwikist (talk) 20:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning the nomination for deletion of Lisahally F.C.

There are countless amateur football stubs on wikipedia. Why has only this one been deleted?

Not all amateur clubs are of equal importance. This one seems to be a bare sunday league team, thus not notable enough according to Wikipedia notability guidelines. Secondly, I only nominated it for speedy deletion, it is admins who will decide the fate of that article. I don't think they will read my talk page, so if want to oppose the deletion, write to its specific discussion page. Julius Sahara 19:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Njonjo

I saw on your user page that you added a link to Charles Njonjo, so I initiated the article, as I was meaning to start an article on Njonjo some time back, but forgot. At school in Uganda we used to call the rich kids "Njonjos". Perhaps you want to build on it. --Ezeu 23:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not encourage vandalism

I've noticed that you have praised this vandalism with this edit. Please do not encourage non-Wikipedian behaviour. Unless this was irony of a level I am not able to fathom, it was no edit to be proud of. If you decide to reply, please do it here, not on my Edit page. Thank you. Friendly Neighbour 16:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't you notice that the one who "praised" vandalism was the user itself, not me? All I did was adding a appropriate warning template. Julius Sahara 16:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the vandalized template altogether. In my opinion, that user should be blocked right now. Julius Sahara 17:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. You're right. I thought I did double check it was you but apparently I did not. My fault. Accept my apologies. If he makes any new edits, I'll report him where he should have been reported about five edits ago.Friendly Neighbour 17:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter. In this kind of situations it's easy to get misunderstood. Maybe Wikipedia is too free on some aspects ;) Julius Sahara 17:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Koobi Fora Research Project

I've been doing a research project on the Leakey family, and I am very curious as to what the Koobi Fora Research Project has to do with Meave Leakey or her daughter. I saw that the Leakey Foundation contributes to it, but I don't see any other connection. You were the one who wrote Louise's article, so I was hoping you could elaborate this for me. Thank you. --Farquaadhnchmn_(Dungeon) 22:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Unfortunately I don't have further knowledge on this issue. I just made the short Louise Leakey article after realizing that someone had made made an inadvertent redirect from Louise Leakey to her grandfather, Louis Leakey. However, there are several google hits linking the KFRP and Leakeys. As far as I know, it was founded by Richard and according to some sources, led today by both Meave and Louise. Julius Sahara 23:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind... she heads it per [1]. Sorry about that...--Farquaadhnchmn_(Dungeon) 13:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Lamb

Exactly how is a person who competed in an international sports championship not notable. That alone clearly passes WP:BIO. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for taking up Paul Ngei. I don't have any expert knowedge about African history/politics myself so it is good to have someone else take over. If I can help in any way, please ask.Itsmejudith 17:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your recent updates

Thanks for your recent updates to the hockey pages.. -kevin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khoogheem (talk • contribs) 03:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Kenya

Hello Julius. I have created some stubs per your request. I am creating various geo-stubs from all over the world from time to time. Kenya definitely needs more attention. Cheers! - Darwinek 19:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and thanks for your recent contributions. Red links at my user page do not necessarily mean I would make those articles anytime soon, but rather a tool which helps me to notice if any of them are created by someone else. Julius Sahara 19:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hola massacre

It appears that you may be a creator and/or a main contributor of the article Hola massacre. The article presently is up for deletion here should you desire to provide your comments to that deletion discussion. -- Jreferee 20:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I did work on the article after the AfD notice was placed there, so I'm well aware of it. Julius Sahara 21:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pathfinder

Good catch on the vandalism. Are you going to post on his talk page? Ng.j 23:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most wanted Kenyan athlete articles

Right now: Alice Timbilili, Bernard Barmasai, Wilberforce Talel, Patrick Ivuti

In case you run out of tasks :) Punkmorten 12:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ferrari F1-2000

Thanks for catching that there was an appropriate page to redirect that to -- I should have looked before I tagged it for speedy! Pinball22 18:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! You did nothing wrong, Ferrari F2000 was a nonsense page anyway. In fact, I was about to add a db-template myself, but opted to try whether it could be rewritten into a more meaningful article (or stub). There was no need, after a very brief googling I found the existing article (Ferrari F1-2000). Julius Sahara 19:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Mwingi

Thanks much! I'm the kind of editor who likes to classify information better, including placing navigational templates, and Kenya was just a stop on the road :-) Nyttend 02:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Atheangelism

Julius, thanks for your comments on Atheangelism. Check out the edits and see if this helps. You are correct in pointing out that the "term" is new, though it has been used of late by Christian apologists. The philosophy, however, is fairly well documented as a distinct world view, religion, or even quasi-religion since 1860. I think this may address your objections. If not, drop a note on my user page.

mpleahy 14:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More on Atheangelism

You raised 2 objections to this article:

1. "look like orginal research" 2. "hardly any google hits"

I think you will see in the revision there is plenty of research on this topic, going back to 1860. Also, see the references for "Evangelical atheism" and "Atheistic Evangelism" from several sources going back to 1993.

With regards to "hardly any google hits" -- Is that a deletion criteria ? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. In any event, do a google search for the terms "atheistic evangelism" and "evangelical atheism" and you will be overwhelmed. It's the same term.

mpleahy 15:21, March 8 2007 (UTC)

Julius, are you an administrator ? How would you feel about creating an article titled "atheistic evangelism", leaving atheangelism, then pointing atheangelism to "atheistic evangelism" ?

mpleahy 15:40, March 9 2007 (UTC)