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Amedeo

In Italian it is Amedeo, isn't it?

It is. Amadeo is Spanish. 82.161.19.51 14:42, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Puccini & Amedeo I

Is this Amedeo di Savoia, duca d' Aosta, the same that Puccini dedicated his "Chrisantemi" to? And in case he is, then does anybody know anything about WHY Puccini dedicated C. to him? thanks,

Alejandro

Descends from Philip II of Spain

I think is important to put that Amadeo is a descendant of King Philip II through his daughter Catherine Michaela and his grandson Thomas Francis, because this dynastic liaison with the legitimate Hapsburg House was instrumental in the choosing of Amadeus to be King of Spain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.209.83.77 (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 August 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved except Amadeo I as per consensus. GoodCrossing (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– per WP:NCROY, if the regnal name and number are unambiguous, use them Interstellarity (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 22:56, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose them since they are, in fact, ambiguous. For example, Amadeus I, Count of Savoy is also known as Amadeo I in Spanish, and Felipe VI could refer to Felipe VI of Navarre (better known as Felipe IV of Spain). And let's not forget Alfonso XII de Castilla el pretendiente, who never became king. Neodop (talk) 21:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, because they are completely unambiguous in English-language literature. Nobody is going to look up a medieval Savoyard ruler on English Wikipedia under a Spanish name. Even if there were any ambiguity in the titles (which there is not), WP:PRIMARYTOPIC would still apply. Surtsicna (talk) 09:23, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Amadeo I, which is unrecognizable. Who even notices the difference between Amedeo and Amadeo at a glance? And who actually calls him the First, given there was no second? As for the rest, I don't see the benefit. Srnec (talk) 15:11, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I have added Juan Carlos to this discussion since that should be discussed as well before moving. Interstellarity (talk) 18:02, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per conciseness for most. Unsure on Amadeo, since it's not quite as unique. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.217.186 (talk) 17:48, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning towards support, chiefly because the fact that the intended titles currently redirect at them suggests that they are WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (obliterating the arguments about potential obscure ambiguities) to begin with while adhering to WP:CONCISE. The case of Amadeo could be a bit more tricky. "King Amadeo" (as in Queen Victoria) could be an alternative (differences in length of reign notwithstanding, hehe :) ).--Asqueladd (talk) 05:01, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support for the Alfonsos, Felipe and Juan Carlos, as per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Unsure about Amadeo. His name is too similar to the Latin "Amadeus" and the Italian "Amedeo" to be clearly unambiguous, and he was not a particularly well-known, fruitful or long-lasting King when compared to all the other ones listed. I'd say that the country in the title doesn't hurt in his case, but I don't have a strong opinion on this. Impru20^talk 00:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support for the latter four, especially for Juan Carlos I of Spain per WP:PTOPIC. Donna Spencer^{talk-to-me⛅} 22:14, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 January 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Amadeo I of Spain be renamed and moved to Amadeo I.

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Amadeo I of Spain → Amadeo I – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:COMMONNAME. Векочел (talk) 03:58, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. People cannot be expected to know the Amadeo–Amedeo distinction, especially given Amadeus. The short page name is just not clear. Srnec (talk) 15:24, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Amedeo is a frequently used name in the House of Savoy. We need to disambiguate him from his kinsmen. Dimadick (talk) 01:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per Dimadick. King regards, Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 19:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to King Amadeo.--Asqueladd (talk) 20:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I don't really understand the logic of the above opposes. They say that the name is ambiguous with people called Amedeo or Amadeus or whatever, but that's really not the discussion here. We want to move to Amadeo I, and we only need consider whether it's a primary topic for that title. In favour are the fact that (a) none of the other Amedeo/Amadeus entries could be seriously construed as an Amadeo, given the spelling difference, so this is a perfect candidate for WP:SMALLDETAILS. And (b) Amadeo I already redirects here, so the status quo is already that this is the primary meaning. This move simply makes the title WP:CONCISE and brings it in line with the new interpretations at WP:NCROY. Note also that Felipe VI has been established with a similar name, despite the existence of other entries at Philip VI, so there's no need to worry about other language names here. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 14:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 * '''Oppose''', per [[User: Dimadick|Dimadick]]. King regards, ''[[User:Robertus Pius|<span style="background:turquoise; color:#FFF; padding:2px;">Robertus Pius</span>]]  ([[User talk:Robertus Pius|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robertus Pius|Contribs]])'' 19:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * '''Move''' to [[King Amadeo]].--Asqueladd ([[User talk:Asqueladd|talk]]) 20:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Support''' - I don't really understand the logic of the above opposes. They say that the name is ambiguous with people called ''Amedeo'' or ''Amadeus'' or whatever, but that's really not the discussion here. We want to move to [[Amadeo I]], and we only need consider whether it's a primary topic for ''that'' title. In favour are the fact that (a) none of the other Amedeo/Amadeus entries could be seriously construed as an Amadeo, given the spelling difference, so this is a perfect candidate for [[WP:SMALLDETAILS]]. And (b) {{noredirect|Amadeo I}} already redirects here, so the status quo is already that this is the primary meaning. This move simply makes the title [[WP:CONCISE]] and brings it in line with the new interpretations at [[WP:NCROY]]. Note also that [[Felipe VI]] has been established with a similar name, despite the existence of other entries at [[Philip VI]], so there's no need to worry about other language names here. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 14:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)