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April 19

Portal:Current events/2024 April 19

April 19, 2024 (2024-04-19) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2024 Iran–Israel conflict 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran Missiles are launched by the Israel Defense Forces towards Isfahan, Iran. Locations in Iraq and Syria are also attacked by Israel. (Al Jazeera) (Times of Israel) (The Washington Post) The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade tells its citizens to leave Israel, citing a high threat of military reprisals and terrorist attacks. (Times of Israel) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Russian missile strikes kill seven civilians in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, including five in Synelnykove and two in Dnipro, with several others critically injured. (BBC News) A Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-22M3 aircraft is shot down in Russian airspace over Stavropol Krai after launching missiles at targets in Ukraine. (BBC News) An Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces command post at the Kalsu military base was hit by an explosion resulting from an air strike, killing one fighter and wounding six others. Security sources say it is not known who was responsible, and Israel and the United States both deny involvement. (Reuters) (CNN) Arts and culture Taylor Swift releases her new album The Tortured Poets Department as a double album. On Spotify, the album breaks the record for most-streamed album in a single day and Swift becomes the most-streamed artist in a single day. (CBS News) Business and economy American car manufacturer Tesla, Inc. recalls thousands of Cybertrucks due to "safety concerns" involving the truck's accelerator pedals. (BBC News) International relations Niger–United States relations The United States agrees to withdraw American troops from Niger. (The Washington Post) Law and crime Self-immolation of Maxwell Azzarello A man fatally sets himself on fire near the New York City courthouse where former President Donald Trump is currently on trial. (The New York Times) Politics and elections 2024 Indian general election Indians begin voting to elect members to the 18th Lok Sabha. There are 969 million people eligible to vote, and voting will continue until June in seven phases. (AP)

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RD: Francis Omondi Ogolla

Article: Francis Omondi Ogolla (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ainty Painty (talk) 16:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing : 2024 United States presidential election

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: 2024 United States presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chinese coverage, British coverage,Indian coverage, African coverage, Qatari coverage
Credits:

• Nominated by lukt64 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Alright. There is a large scale interest in this election, not even just in the US but also in European countries and India. Elections have been posted to ongoing before and I believe this would be beneficial to Wikipedia. Lukt64 (talk)

Oppose - Unlike India, the election isn't "ongoing", a campaign that's still going to last more than half a year is. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. The general election is already WP:ITNR and I don't see how any other events would be ITN worthy (aside from a theoretical Trump conviction, which wouldn't really be covered by the election article anyway). Estreyeria (talk) 13:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - In India, the voting stages have begun. In a UK election, parliament would be dissolved a set time before the election. The US election just isn't 'ongoing' in either of these senses. It's many months away, and the party conferences haven't even happened. The US electoral process is absurdly protracted, but let's not get way ahead of ourselves. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose seriously no. There is no argument to support this nomination. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

2024 Indian general election (ongoing)

Article: 2024 Indian general election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, The Times of India, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This is world’s biggest election in the world's most populous country. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose we don't generally post elections onto ongoing. Also, there's about 1 election a week, so it's unlikely that there will be significant updates every 1-2 days, which is a requirement for ongoing. The article itself has no prose updates to even say election started. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Joseph.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - We have posted elections into ongoing before - For example we put the 2020 U.S. elections in ongoing, mainly due to the long vote count that took place. India is the most populous country in the world, nearly 1 Billion people are eligible to vote. The election is massively in the news, its organisation itself being notable as this is the largest democratic vote held in human history. Absolutely deserves to be ongoing for the duration of it. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Only problem is that ongoing is massively clogged at the moment. My personal opinion is to take off Myanmar and Sudan, while merging the Red Sea Crisis into a 'Spillover' item. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

That's not nearly the only problem. This is a contentious topic which will tend to attract campaigners seeking to influence the outcome. DYK embargoes election coverage for 30 days ahead of the poll -- see WP:DYKELECT. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

That's DYK, not ITN. Even then, no election candidates are in this item. How would this rule apply here? We've posted many contentious topics that were even more controversial than this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Elections are ongoing in the UK – I'm getting leaflets and canvassing currently. And the US has its presidential election and whatever else. Politics is endlessly ongoing everywhere, it seems. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Andrew I think it is wrong to compare these elections with UK or US elections. Next United Kingdom general election have no fixed date in sight, we do not know whether the voting will take place next month or the next year. 2024 United States presidential election will take place on November 5th. I put this up for nomination today because official voting have started from today even though the campaign for these have been going on from the start of the year. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 09:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Voting hasn't begun in the UK yet. India is such a massive and populous country that it takes a month for everyone in the country to vote. Here's an interesting video about it . 1/8th of the world is voting in this election, nuts PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  That video is four years old because this protracted process is not new; it was much the same last time. ITN posted the results at the end in the usual way. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  The FIFA World Cup has happened before even more regularly, yet we put it in ongoing. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  FIFA is explicitly stated for ongoing and outcome blurb entries in WP:ITN/R, and it was perhaps by its entry in ITN/R that allowed it to be posted as ongoing despite what could had been a no consensus close in the last discussion. Going by ITN/R, only the election results will be posted. If you have issues with FIFA getting an ongoing entry, it can be discussed on the talk page. – robertsky (talk) 14:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  With FIFA, there's ongoing results as matches are played and teams eliminated. So there is "result" news happening every week FIFA is going. With elections, the "result" news is typically when the election is over and reported, so it is normally just a singular blurb. Masem (t) 15:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Andrew, that's disingenuous. The current UK election period is for local elections and one single parliamentary by-election. The Indian election is a general election. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

We have a general election coming too. That has had an article for over four years and it has averaged more than one edit every day throughout that period. It's in the news often and its readership is comparable with the South Korean election that we're currently blurbing. Such politics is ongoing all the time here. It might be nice to live a country which doesn't have party politics. But then there's the weather per our current lead blurb... Andrew🐉(talk) 15:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment It should be noted that this is not the election campaign, but the election itself that is taking place over several months, unlike in places like the US. Also, the results progressively coming from each phase of the election mean we might have significant updates every few days. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the world's largest democracy is holding a election that is biggest in the human history and it is regularly getting large number of page views. LiamKorda 10:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Putting any election into ongoing is a bad use of it. If we put India's, we clearly have to put the US's because of how important this one is, and that starts a slipperly slope for all election seasons. We will absolutely post the results (assuming the article is good). To add that adding the unknown factors in the 2020 US election after election day into ongoing made sense, since at that point the news cycle was not about campaigning any more but all the legal challenges to the vote. Should the Indian election turn that way after the campaigning is over, leaving a major question of who won, then that might also be worth ongoing. But in the pre-voting period, the bulk of the news is all about campaigns, and that's something we shouldn't give attention to at ITN. --Masem (t) 12:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  No, we're not in the pre-voting period. The vote started today, and lasts a whole month. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, it is different to other countries as the voting is over a longer period of time (not one day like most other country elections, and a few days for EU elections). Nevertheless, the article doesn't meet the criteria of WP:ONGOING: In general, articles are not posted to ongoing merely because they are related to events that are still happening. In order to be posted to ongoing, the article needs to be regularly updated with new, pertinent information. There are no recent regular updates on this article at present, and these regular updates would need to be maintained throughout the election period to keep it on ongoing if posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  When will the votes be tallied? During the voting period or after its over? If they aren't being tallied over this month, then this is still in the campaigning phase, and we can wait to post the results. — Masem (t) 15:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose A country having general elections in most cases isn't newsworthy unless the country is new to the democratic process, or returning from an undemocractic one (even then, this would have been events separate from the elections). India having month-long elections is a procedural one designed for its circumstances. Is it noteworthy, yes, news worthy? No. However, if there is/are (touch wood) major disruptions to the election process, we can consider them for blurb(s). Also to note that the 2019 elections generated... one nomination. – robertsky (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As per the election schedule section of the article, voting will be taking place with around one week breaks, meaning there will not be enough updates for this to go in ongoing. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Even though India is the biggest democracy, we only post the results of the election TheAstorPastor (talk) 16:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Israeli retaliation (ongoing)

Article: 2024 Iran–Israel conflict (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): cnn al jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by User:37.252.95.10 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Still breaking, but MSM is both reporting and mentioning israel and iran. You may remove oil prices, but i just screenshotted it on my phone and is almost 3% up. User:37.252.95.10

• Support but needs its own separate article when official info is ready. 142.117.133.114 (talk) 02:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

We should try to wait until we have confirmation what actually happened, beyond reports of explosions. That said, if we're going to have this tit-for-tat conflict here, that's probably where one page summarizing these events as a whole are needed, not individual articles for each attack. (This is a long-standing NOTNEWS problem). Masem (t) 02:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Like olympics or other events, could be ongoing. Would need a chronology article. Do you thinking ongoing is better than a bump? There is going to be a counter from iran too. (speculative on my end, i admit, but chronology still adds up since its all inside a week).37.252.95.10 (talk) 02:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Assuming we get a decent article covering the 2024 Israeli - Iranian Crisis, I'd probably support this as an ongoing item. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

the original article doesn't even consolidate Iranian seizure of the MSC Aries. Clearly they are related.37.252.95.10 (talk) 03:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Assuming that the reports are that this was a single strike at a site near an Iranian nuclear facility, this is absolutely better suited for an ongoing item on the conflict than an individual article. — Masem (t) 03:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I hear (not substantiated yet) there was a strike on some outpost in Syria and something in Iraq. Probs more reason for ongoing. If anyone wants to create that page.37.252.95.10 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

the newsbox above has this 2024 Iran–Israel conflict. Maybe ill convert this to an ongoing thing.37.252.95.10 (talk) 04:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

done.37.252.95.10 (talk) 04:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Update the existing blurb about the previous strikes. When that scrolls off, we can consider Ongoing if the tit for tat is continuing. In any case, we need more clarity and confirmation as "Officials are saying there has been no attack...". Andrew🐉(talk) 08:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Update and put it in Ongoing when that rolls off. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Ongoing—The situation is evolving dramatically by the day, and has two of the most powerful countries in the Middle East at the brink of all-out war. If any conflict merits an Ongoing, it's this one. Kurtis ^(talk) 10:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge with Red Sea into Spillover - Very notable event, but would be best to merge with the Red Sea Crisis item into one 'spillover' of the Hamas War. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  • The conflict in the Red Sea is still ongoing as long as it is having an impact on shipping and economic activities. If the ships have started to use the channel normally then the spillover link can be removed. This conflict is only more notable than the Yemen conflict because of the disruption to shipping.

  Shironese (talk) 14:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The events of this conflict can be adequately covered in ongoing by either the Spillover of the Israel-Hamas war article, or the Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (12 January 2024 – present) article, one if which (preferably the latter, IMO) seems to have consensus to replace the Red Sea crisis item in ongoing with. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, if we're going to post it then let's post it independently, it is not a part of red sea crisis or any other ongoing news, it's a separate event with loose connection to other ongoing wars. 3000MAX (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

April 18

Portal:Current events/2024 April 18

April 18, 2024 (2024-04-18) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Foreign involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Germany arrests two German-Russian nationals for an alleged military sabotage plot on behalf of Russia to undermine military support for Ukraine. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents A Kenya Air Force Bell UH-1H Huey II crashes in Elgeyo-Marakwet County, Kenya, killing ten people, including Chief of Defence Forces Francis Omondi Ogolla. President William Ruto declares three days of national mourning. (BBC News) International relations Palestine and the United Nations, Enlargement of the United Nations The United States vetoes a UN Security Council resolution supporting the State of Palestine joining the United Nations. The vote was 12 in favor, the United States opposed, and two abstentions, from the United Kingdom and Switzerland. (AP) Sports In ice hockey, the National Hockey League board approves the relocation of the hockey assets of the Arizona Coyotes to Salt Lake City, Utah. The currently unnamed expansion team will play their home games at the Delta Center, while the Coyotes franchise will be deactivated pending the construction of a new arena in the Phoenix metropolitan area. (Sportsnet) (AP)

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RD: Dickey Betts

Article: Dickey Betts (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:A1DE:A47F:63DC:BD77 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Guitarist for The Allman Brothers Band. 240F:7A:6253:1:A1DE:A47F:63DC:BD77 (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is an orange tag and several cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 17:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

2024 Croatian parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Croatian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The HDZ-led coalition wins a plurality of votes in the parliamentary election in Croatia but fall well short of a parliamentary majority. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: As always with these elections it'll be now coalition negotiation time, but the main news is HDZ won but maybe not as by much as they would like. A slightly bigger aftermath and commentary on the results would be nice, but it's not a bad article at all. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support National general elections are ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  It is marked as ITN/R, so it is presumed notable, it's better to focus on whether the article is up to quality. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Support as it is under ITN/R LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 12:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose There is virtually no prose in the "results" and "aftermath" sections. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

April 17

Portal:Current events/2024 April 17

April 17, 2024 (2024-04-17) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine April 2024 Chernihiv missile strike 18 people are killed and 78 others are injured in a Russian missile strike which damaged an eight-storey building in a densely populated area of Chernihiv. (BBC News) (Reuters) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Fourteen Israeli soldiers and four civilians injured in drone attacks in northern Israel. One IDF officer later succumbs.(Reuters)(The Times of Israel) War in Sudan Taqaddum leader and former Prime Minister of Sudan Abdalla Hamdok meets with French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris, France. (Dabanga Sudan) Business and economy Vietnam announces a $24 billion rescue for the Sai Gon Joint Stock Commercial Bank, which is currently involved in a fraud case. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Persian Gulf floods The United Arab Emirates records its heaviest rainfall in 75 years, with significant flooding reported in Dubai. At least 20 people are killed by flooding in Oman and Ras Al Khaimah. (The Guardian) (Reuters) Hundreds of people are evacuated after the Ruang volcano erupts in North Sulawesi, Indonesia. (Reuters) International relations Sanctions during the Venezuelan crisis The Biden administration announces that it will reimpose oil sanctions on Venezuela. (The Washington Post) Law and crime Switzerland's Federal Assembly votes to ban public displays of the Nazi swastika. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Croatian parliamentary election Voters in Croatia elect the members of the Sabor. The ruling Croatian Democratic Union and its coalition win the most seats, but fail to obtain a majority. (Reuters) 2024 Solomon Islands general election Voters in Solomon Islands elect a new National Parliament. (The Guardian) Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas The United States Senate votes to dismiss both impeachment articles against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, by a vote of 51–48 on the first article and 51–49 on the second. (Reuters) (CNN) Science and technology Scientists announce that they have identified fossil remains of the Ichthyotitan, the largest marine reptile currently known, in the Westbury Formation in England. (NOS) Sports In basketball, the NBA announces that it has banned Jontay Porter, a two-way player under contract to the Toronto Raptors and their G League affiliate Raptors 905, for multiple major violations of the league's gambling policy. (NBA) (ESPN)

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Ichthyotitan

Article: Ichthyotitan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ichthyotitan, the largest marine reptile ever known, is formally described. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ichthyotitan, the largest marine reptile ever known, measuring around 25 metres (82 ft) long, is formally described.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Ichthyotitan, possibly the largest marine reptile ever known at around 25 metres (82 ft) long, is formally described.
News source(s): Discovery article The Guardian CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)
• Created by Roadrunnerfromhell (talk · give credit)

Article updated

What about a scientific discovery, to change a bit from the wars, politics and disasters? A new species of ichthyosaur of absolutely gigantic proportions, nearly as big as a blue whale and possibly still growing at the time of death. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 08:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support – Hell yeah, back to our encyclopedia roots. However, there is a lot of insecurity about whether or not it actually would be the longest ever. I don't think we can make such a certain claim in our lede. The article could use some expansion too I think. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Down to help with the expansion part! Just added an altblurb for the "possibly" thing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 08:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose 1. Paleontology is a science where facts (especially animal size) are changing all the time with new discoveries and new analysis from other researcher. 2. It's only partial skeleton (heck, there is only jawbones), scientist speculate all the time so it's not really newsworthy Afif Brika1 (talk) 10:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  While the size was given with a margin of error, it's not fair to say that it is only speculation—all of science changes in light of new evidence, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have scientific news on ITN. The bones found are very much larger than those of Shastasaurus sikanniensis, its cousin and predecessor as record-holder. Plus, the news is the discovery (being formally published), not just scientists making a new length estimate. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 11:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sue Chew

Article: Sue Chew (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/04/18/longest-serving-democrat-in-idaho-legislature-dies-from-pancreatic-cancer/
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American politician, Member of the Idaho House of Representatives. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Austin Murphy

Article: Austin Murphy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Observer-Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former U.S. representative from Pennsylvania. The article needs work but the linked news article reporting his death has a lot of details which can be added. Curbon7 (talk) 22:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article needs some ref work and there's little information about his political career, especially his tenure his congress (besides the extensive info about scandals). Nothing about committee assigns or anything other besides his scandals are mentioned. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Persian Gulf floods

Article: 2024 Persian Gulf floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in the Gulf states killed 18 people in Oman, while the United Arab Emirates experienced its heaviest rainfall in 75 years. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Flooding in the Gulf states leaves 20 people dead.
News source(s): NY Times, Al Jazeera, Reuters, The Guardian, Khaleej Times, BBC,
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
• Created by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 07:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Support The event is notable and the article seems to be of sufficiently good quality and sourcing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle. 'Heavy rainfall in the Gulf states' had been an excellent example of an oxymoron before this happened.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support. 10 inches of rain poured in 24 hours in parts of the UAE, highest since Emirati climate records began in 1949! Unprecedented in a normally arid part of the world. Droodkin (talk) 10:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle but the article is currently a bit small and needs to be expanded. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle, oppose on quality seeding has already been dismissed as the cause, this was just a very unusual storm pattern that caused flooding. The BG section of the article doesn't mention the weather system at all and focuses too much on the seeding part. Masem (t) 15:07, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, unique meteorological event with a major impact. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability Abo Yemen✉ 18:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support a rare and notable weather event --Μιχαήλ Δεληγιάννης (talk) 22:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, oppose on quality some places got 2-3 times their annual rainfall in a matter of hours, and the 2nd largest airport in the world was closed. However, article is orange tagged, which needs fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Article looks quite a bit better now, so changing vote to support. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  Article still fails to explain the fundamental weather system that caused the rainfall and focuses too much if seeding and long term climate change. Our weather disaster articles nearly always dip into details about the weather systems that lead to these disasters. Masem (t) 18:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 02:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Blurb is wrong, there have been floodings in yemen too (which is not a gulf state) and a person died there. Maybe change it to the statesof Arabian peninsula or something close to that Abo Yemen✉ 08:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Iran is not in the Arabian peninsula though, and the floods do not cover the whole Middle East either. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

  Arabian Peninsula != Middle east

  Just change it to "the states of the Arabian Peninsula and Iran" Abo Yemen✉ 15:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Chernihiv missile attack

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Article: April 2024 Chernihiv missile strike (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A missile attack kills 17 people in Chernihiv, Ukraine, while more than 60 people are injured. (Post)
News source(s): BBC Al Jazeera Reuters The Guardian Washington Post ABC News Kyiv Independent NY Times
Credits:

• Created and nominated by NYMan6 (talk · give credit)

NYMan6 (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose While unfortunate, the article is a stub and is seen as an event part of the Russo-Ukraine. Since the war itself and it's timeline (where it already lists this event) are already nominated on ITN, there's no need for the blurb. - MateoFrayo (talk) 16:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose covered by ongoing Ukraine topic. Masem (t) 16:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose ongoing Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, covered by ongoing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose It is already covered --Μιχαήλ Δεληγιάννης (talk) 22:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

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April 16

Portal:Current events/2024 April 16

April 16, 2024 (2024-04-16) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israel–Hamas war 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Ismail Yusuf Baz, commander of Hezbollah's coastal sector is assassinated with one civilian killed in Ain Ebel, Lebanon, in an Israeli airstrike. (Israel Defense Forces) (Middle East Monitor) Fourteen Israeli soldiers and four civilians were wounded in drone attacks in northern Israel. One IDF officer later succumbs.(Reuters) Al-Maghazi refugee camp airstrikes At least 13 people are killed in a strike on a refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. (CNN) April 2024 Israeli settler rampages A mob of Israeli settlers in Aqraba kills two Palestinians in revenge for the killing of Israeli teenager Benjamin Achimeir amid escalating ethnoreligious violence in the West Bank. (The Guardian) 2024 Wakeley church stabbing Australian police say that the stabbing attack at an Assyrian church in Sydney was an Islamic terrorist act. (Reuters) Naxalite–Maoist insurgency Indian security forces kill at least 29 Maoist insurgents in a major counterinsurgency operation in Kanker district, Chhattisgarh. A large quantity of weapons are also seized. (NDTV) Peacekeeping operations in Nagorno-Karabakh Russian peacekeepers begin withdrawing from Nagorno-Karabakh, leaving the region under the full control of Azerbaijan. (Caliber.az) Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signs a new army draft law. (Reuters) Business and economy 2023–2024 video game industry layoffs American video game company Take-Two Interactive lays off 5% of its workforce. (Reuters) Argentina and Denmark sign a 2.1 billion kroner (US$300 million) deal for the sale of 24 Royal Danish Air Force F-16 Fighting Falcons to Argentina. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Persian Gulf floods Heavy rains and flash floods affect parts of the Persian Gulf, killing at least 18 people in Oman and causing travel disruptions in the United Arab Emirates. (Al Jazeera) A fire occurs in Copenhagen's 17th-century Stock Exchange Building, leading to the collapse of the building's iconic Dragespir spire. Important Danish artworks including From Copenhagen Stock Exchange are safely removed from the building. (Reuters) (The Guardian) Politics and elections Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas The U.S. House of Representatives sends impeachment articles for Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas to the Senate. (Reuters) Police in Brussels, Belgium, shut down the right-wing National Conservatism Conference which was expected to be hosted by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. (Politico) Science and technology European Space Agency scientists announce the discovery of Gaia BH3, the second-largest known black hole in the Milky Way. (NOS) (ESA) Sports World Athletics announces that they will investigate the results of Sunday's Beijing half marathon to determine if Chinese marathon record holder He Jie won because of match fixing. (NOS) (Reuters)

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RD: A. T. Ariyaratne

Article: A. T. Ariyaratne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hiru News
Credits:

• Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan activist, the legendary founder of the Sarvodaya Movement. Titanciwiki^talk/contrib 07:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the Ariyaratne's Buddhist Ideas section have several unsourced statements and is using just one sources numerous times. Same with Buddhist Economics section. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:32, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Palitha Thewarapperuma

Article: Palitha Thewarapperuma (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ada Derana
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician, former Deputy Minister of Social Empowerment. Titanciwiki^talk/contrib 07:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Support there is no obvious issue with the article. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Graham

Article: Bob Graham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tallahassee Democrat
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by AbsoluteWissen (talk · give credit) and Fakescientist8000 (talk · give credit)

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A titan of Florida politics. Article is almost there, a few spots need citations. Curbon7 (talk) 03:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

You beat me to the nomination! Will try to iron out citations today or tomorrow. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 04:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Almost ready there are just 2-3 cn tags that needs to be solved. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Should be good now I've fixed the 2 CN tags and have added more REFs to previously unsourced statements. Article should be ready for ITN/C. RIP to the GOAT of NCT '90s/'00s VP selections. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support - looks good to go now ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 17:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 23:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Carl Erskine

Article: Carl Erskine (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DarkStarHarry (talk · give credit) and Omnis Scientia (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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– Muboshgu (talk) 16:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support I am not seeing any issues with the article. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 18:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - no issues here ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Børsen fire

Article: Børsen (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The historic Børsen (pictured) in Copenhagen, Denmark, catches fire. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Børsen, a historic building in Copenhagen, Denmark, catches fire.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The historic Børsen (pictured) in Copenhagen, Denmark, catches fire.
News source(s): CNN BBC Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by W.carter (talk · give credit)
• Created by Mexaguil (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Delta (G400) (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Developing story. Article is not sufficiently updated yet, but Scandinavia just got its own Notre-Dame fire. Cart (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait for more updates and information. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

It is not comparable to the fire in the Notre-Dame de Paris. The Notre Dame is a UNESCO heritage site, Børsen is not. So ITNR-wothiness in this case is questionable. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

We've had plenty of fires on ITN of buildings that were not on the UNESCO heritage list, the significance for ITN is interest and the coverage in media, and this is front page stuff on what we usually refer to as significant media. Cart (talk) 11:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle, oppose at size of update - CNN is reporting that at least half the building has been consumed by the fire and that they're still historical art and furniture that is trying to be rescued from this. But one paragraph is far too small to cover whats happening and it may be a few more hours before we can suitably expand. --Masem (t) 11:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support when properly updated. I don't like the word "ancient" in the proposed blurb. Børsen was "only" 400 years old, "ancient" is usually reserved for stuff like the Roman Empire. "Historical" would be a better word. Thue (talk) 12:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oops! Good point. Fixed. Cart (talk) 13:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support when the article is ready. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support when ready. Well known famous building. Nfitz (talk) 13:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article has been sufficiently updated. Support on notability, Oppose on quality This is an historic building which was previously the headquarters of the Danish Chamber of Commerce, and the fire seems to have caused significant damage. However, the article has two cn's, and the paragraph the fire is not ready yet. It doesn't actually say if the fire has ended, and doesn't indicate the full extent of the damage. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  It's been updated now and I've found refs for the cn's. Please take another look. Cart (talk) 15:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support seems fine now. Wait until there's enough information for a proper expansion of the article. Estreyeria (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Not seeing any significant problems and it's in the news. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support when ready. LiamKorda 15:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment: There are photos of the building on fire, but they aren't so great blurb-wise since they don't include the significant spire, all the scaffolding hides the building and will only present us with an ad for Batman. I think the best alternative is the suggested pre-fire photo. Cart (talk) 16:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support as nominator. The article is now sufficiently fixed and as up to date with the fire as we can get it at the moment. There will be more in days to come, but I think it's ok to post. Cart (talk) 17:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

The inevitable 2024 Børsen fire has just been created, but it's so far just text copied from the original Børsen. So I don't think the link in the proposed blurbs should be updated. For now, I think it's good to have the background and the new article will fill its purpose later. Cart (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Major news, its quite notable and article is ready. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

How about using File:Brand i Børsen, set fra Ved Stranden.jpg instead of the image suggested here. "The historic Børsen in Copenhagen, Denmark, catches fire. (fire pictured)" Sebbog13 (talk) 19:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

It now has an article so link to 2024 Børsen fire. Sebbog13 (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

That just shows smoke and could be anything on fire. Secretlondon (talk) 20:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

The new article is mainly a copy of the text in the original, and will be more useful as the aftermath develops. Right now, the history behind the building will help readers. And as of now, the blurb is posted without photo. I think that's a good call since the Iran-Israel conflict is way more serious than this fire. Cart (talk) 20:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

If the new article is expanded further, we can switch it. I am going to swap to the "not on fire" photo now. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

The Batman ad is more visible than the building... Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

After research, it appears that Denmark's freedom of panorama is limited to non-commercial uses for artistic works in public places (Article 24(2)), so this is a copyright violation and should, at best, be hosted locally under fair use be marked as a de minimis use, and very much not go on the main page. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Which picture are you talking about? The one that we're currently using showing the building in question is fine as the building is 400 years old. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:57, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

The photo discussed is File:Brand i Børsen, set fra Ved Stranden.jpg with a very visible Batman ad. Cart (talk) 22:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Was your 'research' to read the first sentence of Danish copyright law? The second sentence on article 24(3) states that "buildings can be freely reproduced in pictorial form." Stephen 23:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

But I'm not talking about the building, I'm talking about the advertisement on the building. Which, on File:Brand i Børsen, set fra Ved Stranden.jpg, is the giant Batman promotional poster, and falls very much under 24(2) and not 24(3). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Surely a crop of the photo could be made, cropping out all of the ad whilst just keeping the words "fear nothing". Happily888 (talk) 11:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support given the broad coverage. Added alternative blurb 2. Now that there is an article for the fire, I suggest wikilinking to that, and bolding said text.Gust Justice (talk) 22:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: I feel like 2024 Børsen fire should be linked in the blurb.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 03:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Børsen § 2024 fire seems to have more information than the 2024 Børsen fire spinout (or at least as much).—Bagumba (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

  There is a parallel discussion about this at WP:ERRORS. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

  Closed as mooted by the merging of the article. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• New images of fire present at Commons:Category:2024_Børsen_fire. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment: I've replaced the fire photo in the article with a cropped and perspective-corrected version of the image, where the copyrighted logos are cropped and cloned out. It's avaliable if you want to use it on ITN. Personally, I think people will recognize the "before the fire photo" easier from visits (movies, media, etc.) to Copenhagen, than just smoke and scaffolding. Cart (talk) 13:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  There is still the logo in a couple of different places on that banner. One, on the shoe, another is in the lower right corner. Granted, it's significantly more obscure but I don't know if that matter when it comes to copyright law. (IANAL) Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Those logos are so small, they fall under the de minimis rule and not a problem. I didn't want to clone more things than necessary . Cart (talk) 15:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

April 15

Portal:Current events/2024 April 15

April 15, 2024 (2024-04-15) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Iran–Israel proxy conflict 2024 Iran–Israel conflict 2024 Iranian strikes in Israel, Iran–Japan relations Japan increases its four-stage danger ranking level for most of Iran, including Tehran, to Level 3, which urges Japanese citizens to avoid all travel to Iran. (The Japan News) War in Sudan Battle of El Fasher At least nine civilians are killed and sixty others are injured in a renewed offensive by the Rapid Support Forces on the city of El Fasher. (Sudan War Monitor) Humanitarian impact of the war in Sudan Donors pledge more than 2 billion euros for humanitarian aid in Sudan. (Reuters) Siege of El Obeid Five civilians are killed and ten others are injured in crossfire between the Sudanese Armed Forces and Rapid Support Forces in the city of El Obeid. (Sudan War Monitor) The Rapid Support Forces capture Mellit, North Darfur. (Sudan War Monitor) The Joint Darfur Force declares war on the Rapid Support Forces and allies with the Sudanese Armed Forces. (Sudan War Monitor) Clashes occur in Al-Madina Arab, Gezira State, between the Sudanese Armed Forces and the Rapid Support Forces. (Radio Tamazuj) Business and economy Tesla CEO Elon Musk announces that more than 10% of the company's global workforce will be laid off. (CNBC) (Reuters) Lockheed Martin wins a $17 billion defense contract from the U.S. government to develop anti-ballistic missiles. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Fifty-eight people have been killed in Tanzania and 13 people have been killed in Kenya in the past two weeks by flooding caused by torrential rains, with more than 125,000 people in coastal areas of East Africa affected by the flooding. Tanzania announces plans to construct fourteen dams in an attempt to reduce the damage from future floods. (AP) Lightning and heavy rains have killed at least 49 people across Pakistan in the past three days, mainly farmers in the eastern Punjab province. (AP) The death toll from landslides caused by torrential rain in Tana Toraja, South Sulawesi, Indonesia, increases to 20, after the last missing people are found dead. (AP) A magnitude 6.5 earthquake strikes West New Britain Province, Papua New Guinea. No damage or casualties are reported. (ABC News) International relations Sudan–United Kingdom relations, War in Sudan The United Kingdom sanctions Alkhaleej Bank and Al-Fakher Advanced Works, two companies financing the Rapid Support Forces, and Red Rock Mining, which finances the Sudanese Armed Forces. (Radio Tamazuj) Law and crime 2021 Australian Parliament House sexual misconduct allegations Former Australian political staffer Bruce Lehrmann loses his defamation case against Network 10 and journalist Lisa Wilkinson for broadcasting an interview with Lehrmann's former coworker Brittany Higgins in which she claimed that Lehrmann raped her. (The Guardian) 2024 Wakeley church stabbing Four people are injured, including bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel, in a mass stabbing at a church in Sydney, Australia. The perpetrator is arrested. A mob clashes with police outside the church while trying to attack the detained suspect. (Sky News Australia) Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse A federal court in the U.S. state of Virginia hears the first claims by survivors of the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. Three detainees accuse the CACI for their role in the torture at the prison. (Military Times) (AP) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war protests Tax Day protests Pro-Palestinian protests in the United States stop traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge and disrupt traffic to Seattle–Tacoma International Airport. (The Washington Post) Lee Hsien Loong announces that he will resign as Prime Minister of Singapore on May 15 and will be succeeded by Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Lawrence Wong. (CNA) Thousands of people protest against a controversial foreign agent law in Tbilisi, Georgia. Georgia's Interior Ministry reports at least 14 people have been detained. Georgian Dream parliamentary leader Mamuka Mdinaradze is punched during a debate in parliament by a member of the opposition. (DW)

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RD: Naomi Polani

Article: Naomi Polani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Naomi Polani, veteran performer and director dies at 96 (JPost)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Israeli musical director, theater director, singer, producer, actress and dancer. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 04:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jerry Savelle

Article: Jerry Savelle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Christian Post
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C0E0:EC3C:2013:6568 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American televangelist and author. 240F:7A:6253:1:C0E0:EC3C:2013:6568 (talk) 05:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is an orange tag and 4 cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Whitey Herzog

Article: Whitey Herzog (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USAToday
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Hall of Fame manager.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there are two orange tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 18:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

RD/blurb: Josip Manolić

Article: Josip Manolić (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Josip Manolić, the second prime minister of Croatia, dies at the age of 104. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former prime minister of Croatia, Josip Manolić, dies at the age of 104.
News source(s): Nacional, Jutarnji list Index.
Credits:

• Nominated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Josip Manolić was the second and last prime minister of Croatia as the Socialist Republic of Croatia, and “first” prime minister (caretaker) of the independent Croatia. Co-founder of the important Croatian political party Croatian Democratic Union (HDZ) and also Croatian Independent Democrats (HND). First official Speaker of the Chamber of Counties of Croatia. Major political player in Croatia's history. The article is ok, could be more detailed, but has been updated with his death. Seems like a notable figure, so I think it makes a strong RD; mixed about the blurb. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

One side note, obviously topics dealing with SFR Yugoslavia and its former constituent republics can be very contentious. Vandalism would be a concern. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Classicwiki: If vandalism is a concern, should the page be semi-protected? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

@MtPenguinMonster, not to be too wp:crystalball, but if it gets to the front page via blurb, it would be advised. Doesn't seem like the blurb or the RD are going to make it at the moment. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 06:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose There's some cn tags in the article, but I feel like these can be fixed. I'll support RD, but I'll oppose a blurb as the article doesn't really mention his legacy/overall impact he had in Croatia. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb as nothing in the article gives a good reason he was a major figure that created an impact or estaish Ed a legacy for the country. Oppose RD on quality issues (cn's, etc) I'll also note much of the article is sourced to a single work (#6 as I type this) which begs again on how important he was in considering a blurb. Masem (t) 19:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb He was only PM of an independent Croatia for less than 1 month, I see no reason for this being majorly influential or leaving a legacy. Also Oppose RD at this time as there are too many CN tags on the article. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 05:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb given his short and apparently not very influential tenure as Prime Minister. The article only spends half a paragraph on it, and doesn't even explain what he did during his term. Oppose RD given the 5 citation needed tags still in the article. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Blurb He was not the most influential Croatian leader of all time therefore no blurb. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Just a note to the nominator, any biographical article on Wikipedia can be featured for RD provided they meet quality guidelines, see WP:ITNRD. Natg 19 (talk) 15:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Blurb per above. LiamKorda 15:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Though he was prime minister at time of the declaration of independence, he had little role in the declaration itself and the succeeding wars were litigated moreso by President Franjo Tuđman than his prime ministers. Curbon7 (talk) 22:35, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Derek Underwood

Article: Derek Underwood (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, BBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English cricketer, former world number 1 bowler. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 13:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article is ready for RD. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - article has one cn tag but that shouldn't hold up a RD ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 15:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Willie Limond

Article: Willie Limond (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Boxer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, most of the article is currently unsourced. Suonii180 (talk) 17:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the article has a orange tag and has only 3 sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

April 14

Portal:Current events/2024 April 14

April 14, 2024 (2024-04-14) (Sunday) Disasters and accidents 2024 Dibaya Lubwe landslide At least 15 people are killed and 60 more are missing during a landslide in Idiofa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Heavy floods in Afghanistan have killed at least 33 people and injured 27 others in three days. About 600 houses were either damaged or destroyed, and around 200 livestock died. The floods also damaged around 800 hectares of agricultural land, and more than 85 kilometers (53 miles) of roads. (AP) International relations Cyprus suspends Syrian asylum applications as there are increasing numbers of refugees. (Reuters) Law and crime Three people are injured, one critically, in a shooting at Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia. The perpetrator targeted his wife, who was not injured. (CNA) Sports 2023–24 Bundesliga In association football, Bayer 04 Leverkusen win their first Bundesliga title. (ABC News) 2024 Masters Tournament American professional golfer Scottie Scheffler wins the Masters Tournament at the Augusta National Golf Club in Augusta, Georgia. This win is Scheffler's second win at the tournament. (CNN)

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RD: Käthe Sasso

Article: Käthe Sasso (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.noen.at/in-ausland/zeitzeugin-widerstandskaempferin-kaethe-sasso-98-verstorben-417808267
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Austrian child resistance activist. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 01:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Werner Spitz

Article: Werner Spitz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted forensic pathologist.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article is ready for RD. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - article is good enough ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 15:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Werner Spitz#List of notable cases is largely unsourced. There are also a few {cn} tags in the prose. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 21:57, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Steve Sloan

Article: Steve Sloan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American Football coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Almost ready Head coaching record section needs sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

@PrinceofPunjab: Added. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ken Holtzman

Article: Ken Holtzman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ‎Omnis Scientia (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Support the article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Four {cn} tags remaining. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 21:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  They're all taken care of. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:53, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the new footnotes! --PFHLai (talk) 00:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Beverly LaHaye

Article: Beverly LaHaye (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 67.10.62.172 (talk · give credit) and Connormah (talk · give credit)

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Looks alright citationwise. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 06:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 10:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

2024 Masters Tournament

Article: 2024 Masters Tournament (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In golf, Scottie Scheffler (pictured) wins the 2024 Masters Tournament. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

The Masters is a recurring event, so I will nom it right away. TheCorriynial (talk) 00:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose the article is currently a bit of mess, IMHO. Much of it consists of large lists without clear/consistent citations - particularly the "criteria" section. The whole thing also just strikes me as somewhat oddly formatted. For example, there are italicized subheadings with no content underneath ["Thursday, April 11th"], even though content slightly further down pertains to parts of the tournament that happened on April 11th. With this being said, taking a brief glance at the 2023 Masters page, this does seems to be "par for the course" (pun intended) for past years tournaments as well - so I will defer if others don't think the formatting is an issue. Flip^andFlopped ツ 02:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 03:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the article has very prose and is filled with tables, some of which lack citations. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 05:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose like a lot of golf articles that get nominated here, it has far too much detail on qualifying system, and very little prose on the actual event (2-3 sentences per round and none on the final round is too little). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• And the scorecard section also violates MOS:COLOUR, as it's using colours as the only way to display eagles, birdies, bogeys and double bogeys, in violation of the first bullet point of that MOS section. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Opposethe article is mostly a list of players taking the part in the tournament and some daily leader tables. Not enough prose to justify posting on ITN. --Bcp67 (talk) 17:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Jalapeño: I feel as though this was a bit of an early SNOW close. Quite a few opposes were based on the quality of the article, which can (and hopefully will) be fixed. Might have jumped the gun with this one, my friend. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

I've undone the close. The Masters is on ITNR and can still be posted provided the article is updated appropriately. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 14:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There are a total of 3 sentences in the article about the final round and/or Scheffler's win. Nosferattus (talk) 15:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing replacement : Red Sea crisis with Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war

Articles: Red Sea crisis (talk · history · tag) and Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Article updated

Attacks have largely stopped and situation has largely cooled down in the red sea, and the spillover is more general. Probably Israel–Hamas war (spillover) Lukt64 (talk)

• Neutral, leaning support Although the Red Sea situation has calmed down significantly from the past few months, it's still far from over. Technically, the crisis itself is a result of the spillover from the war, and as the war is starting to drag in other parties other than Hamas (mainly Iran), this could be a good nom, especially after the April 13 strikes - marking a clear escalation. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support per Twistedaxe. Flip^andFlopped ツ 02:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• I once again oppose a stand-alone spillover item in Ongoing on account of the fact that said spillover is intrinsically linked to the war itself. However, I do think that like how we have items such as "War in Sudan (timeline)", perhaps we could do "Israel–Hamas war (spillover)". That I would be favorable to. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

My bad, didn't read the nomination comment. I'm a support to the above mentioned idea, though my comments on a distinct ongoing item still stand. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Broader scope, includes both the Red Sea Crisis which has been winding down (though still ongoing) and many other related ongoing events, including but not limited to the recent escalations between Israel and Iran. Target page receives updates any time another significant spillover event occurs. Very good suggestion.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 05:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Support - Was initially against this, but having the spillover in brackets next to the item would be a good option, especially as coverage and interest in the Red Sea Crisis has slowed. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment - I think it would be better of have something akin to Middle East crisis (Gaza, Red Sea, Iran-Israel) with better wording. I equate the OP to concluding that the Is attack in Russia was a spillover of the Syrian Civil War which seems to come across as pigeonholing. CheetasOnMission (talk) 10:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that we'd jump the gun to give the series of conflicts right now a new term. That's up to future historians, not us. Perhaps in 10 years this will be known as the "Middle Eastern Wars of the 2020s" but for now as per commonname, spillover would work PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Someone already suggested the idea of formatting it as "Israel-Hamas War (spillover)", and I think I agree with that idea, as it makes every relevant conflict related to it accessible on ITN without cluttering it via individual listing. If any mentioned conflict leads to something beyond the scope of being spillover, perhaps the formatting/labeling could then be changed, but for now, this should work. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 11:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support removal The Red Sea Crisis has somewhat winded down, and the article is no longer getting sufficient updates for ongoing, so we can remove it. However, I don't see a reason as of now to replace it will Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war, as that article has nowhere near the amount of updates needed for ongoing. Instead, we should replace with the Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (12 January 2024 – present) article, which has enough updates, but also seems to cover most of the topics in the scope of the Spillover article. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  Great suggestion. Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (12 January 2024 – present) lists spillover events too but receives far more updates, so it's a very good choice for a target.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

2023–24 Bundesliga

Article: 2023–24 Bundesliga (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bayer Leverkusen won the Bundesliga for the first time (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Bayer Leverkusen win the Bundesliga.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

• Oppose Article is basically all tables. Needs a prose summary of the season. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article has almost no prose. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 05:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose needs a prose season summary, like e.g. 2022–23 Premier League#Summary. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sergio Melnick

Article: Sergio Melnick (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Tercera
Credits:

• Nominated by Bedivere (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Zigzig20s (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Bedivere (talk) 04:30, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose The article is just 13 lines long. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 05:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article a bit short. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• With only 181 words of prose, this wikibio is too stubby for ITN. Anything useable available from es:Sergio Melnick to help expand it? --PFHLai (talk) 22:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  @PFHLai Yes, the Spanish Wikipedia article looks good and has several sources. Unfortunately I can't help out with expanding, and it will be probably missed... Bedivere (talk) 03:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  Oh, well... this nom still has a few more days of eligibility. Maybe someone can expand this wikibio over the weekend based on a new obituary. We shall see... --PFHLai (talk) 23:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

April 13

Portal:Current events/2024 April 13

April 13, 2024 (2024-04-13) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Iran–Israel proxy conflict 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Iranian strikes in Israel Iran and its proxies launch between 400 and 500 drones and cruise missiles at Israel from Iran, Iraq, Syria, southern Lebanon, and Yemen. (ABC News) U.S. naval ships mobilize to the Middle East to protect Israel against incoming missiles. (The Wall Street Journal) (News.com.au) Iranian seizure of the MSC Aries Iran seizes the MSC Aries, a Portuguese-registered, Madeira-flagged container ship owned by Zodiac Maritime which is chaired by Israeli billionaire Eyal Ofer. (Reuters) (Firstpost) Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus The Netherlands announces that their embassy in Tehran will close on Sunday. (Al Arabiya) Killing of Benjamin Achimeir Israeli settlers attack Palestinians in the West Bank after missing Jewish teenager Benjamin Achimeir is found dead. (BBC News) Insurgency in Balochistan Gunmen abduct and kill nine people from a bus in Nushki District, Balochistan, Pakistan. All victims, whose bodies were found under a bridge, appear to have been shot at close range. (Reuters) Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine The Russian Ministry of Defense claims that the village of Pervomaiske near Donetsk has been captured by Russian troops. (Barron's) War in Sudan An offensive by the Rapid Support Forces begins in El Fasher. (Sudan Tribune) Disasters and accidents Eighteen people are killed, two are injured and some are missing after landslides hit South Sulawesi, Indonesia. (The Star) Law and crime 2024 Bondi Junction stabbings Six people are killed and seven others are injured in a mass stabbing at a shopping center in Sydney, Australia. The perpetrator is shot and killed by police. (The Guardian) (The Sydney Morning Herald) Politics and elections 2024 Cook by-election Simon Kennedy of the Liberal Party of Australia wins the by-election in the seat of Cook, succeeding former Prime Minister Scott Morrison. (ABC News Australia)

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RD: Ron Thompson (actor)

Article: Ron Thompson (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C0E0:EC3C:2013:6568 (talk · give credit)

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American actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:C0E0:EC3C:2013:6568 (talk) 05:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Theater, film and television sections have no sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lorenzo Palomo

Article: Lorenzo Palomo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABD de Cordobá
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Spanish conductor and composer who worked in Berlin for 38 years but composed always based on Andalusian roots. The article was an unsourced stub but is better now, and I'm convinced that a composer whose songs were performed by Montserrat Caballé in Carnegie Hall is worth mentioning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 01:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Faith Ringgold

Article: Faith Ringgold (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)

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Will need to be updated. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Support I think the article is ready. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good Lajmmoore (talk) 09:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Orange tag at the top needs to be addressed before it's ready, and skimming through the article I can see multiple cn tags. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Support as well-sourced. Works are all cited, orange tag is addressed. One passage needs a citation, but otherwise this looks ready. gobonobo ^{+ c} 23:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment There's four outstanding "citation needed" tags along with a "clarification needed".—Bagumba (talk) 05:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Iran retaliation

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Article: 2024 Iranian strikes against Israel (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following an attack on the Iranian embassy, Iran retaliates against Israel and the Israeli-linked MSC Aries. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In retaliation for an Israeli airstrike on the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Iran conducts missile and drone strikes against Israel.
Alternative blurb II: ​ After an Israeli airstrike on the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Iran strikes back against Ramon Airbase.
News source(s): dronesship
Credits:

• Nominated by 37.252.94.105 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Carhles (talk · give credit)

Article updated

STILL Ongoing, but someone will create an article or subsection as it is hardly 2 hours old.37.252.94.105 (talk) 20:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Does it, though? I see the IDF saying some drones will show up in several hours. Maybe they'll be shot down, like Palestinian missiles. That's how it's supposed to work. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Very likely, however the ship has already had reactions from katz, the WH and the uk.37.252.94.105 (talk) 20:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Just added the ship to the blurb.37.252.94.105 (talk) 20:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  If the extent of this is the boarding of a ship, count me out. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Not cool to title an article after strikes that haven't landed (and I've changed "Israel-linked" to "Portuguese" here for clarity). InedibleHulk (talk) 21:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Agreed, titling an article about something that is expected to happen as if it has happened surely violates at least some policies and guidelines. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Multiple RS are mentioning "israel-linked". bbcftreuters. it is not my added context. Further, the update has the same info on the page.37.252.94.105 (talk) 21:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  As I said, it was for clarity, not to accuse you of making things up. Reliable sources also say it's a Portuguese ship and I think that's the part that can't be inferred from the blurb. Anything you add to this blurb will inherently be Israel/Israeli/Iran/Iranian-linked. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Wait Until we know what their payload and targets are, and whether they actually strike (before Israel can shoot them down), this is an unclear situation. --Masem (t) 20:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait Hasn't actually happened yet, so we need to wait to see if the strikes even occur in the first place. If they strike (or even if they don't hit but just get shot down) then definitely support. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Ship is already in Iranian waters and india has reached out to Iranian diplomatic channels. [3]37.252.94.105 (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support when it happens We should theoretically wait, but it's better to have the consensus ready for when it happens. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that was the point in the original comment37.252.94.105 (talk) 21:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. Also, hundreds of cruise missiles are underway, and Iran is readying many dozens of ballistic missiles for firing. Apparently, the plan is to time the drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles such that they arrive at roughly the same time at the targets in Israel. Count Iblis (talk) 21:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until the results of the impending cruise missile/drone attacks are more clear. Even if they are unsuccessful though, I still support an eventual blurb as even a failed strike of this magnitude is very likely to result in dramatic military escalations in the region. Flip^andFlopped ツ 21:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait to see what happens. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Sufficiently significant even if the attacks are intercepted. This is, to my understanding, the first direct attack on Israel by a sovereign state since the '73 war. JDiala (talk) 21:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait Inclined to support on notability but this news is as breaking as it gets.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support Iran has now attacked and this attack is being televised and shown globally

NYMan6 (talk) 22:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support I believe once it has started, I don't see the need to wait. Future events can be added to an article as in the case of Russia invasion of Ukraine (timeline)

Heatrave (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait Once we know the impact on Israel and western response, then 100% Support Roan314 (talk) 22:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Strong Support, It's Happening - For the last hour hundreds of Iranian drones and missiles have been flying over Israel. Israel is in a state of emergency, huge media attention, the U.S. is increasing its military readiness, this marks the first time Iran has directly attacked Israeli soil. This is textbook breaking news, and we should post this immediately. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 22:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I'd also like to draw attention to Iran-Israel relations. Like a lot of 'relations' articles, the article is really poor quality. There is no information on Iran's involvement in the Gaza conflict, plus this event urgently needs to be added PrecariousWorlds (talk) 22:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support First attack of Iran on Israel in their proxy war which becomes a direct war. Givibidou (talk) 22:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I don't think any of the !votes here are saying that this may be too insignificant to be covered by ongoing, even if all the drones and other missiles laucnhed are intercepted, the attack would still be significant. We should however wait until we actually know what the attack ultimately is, and can update the article appropriaetly for this. --Masem (t) 23:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  We know the nature of the attack. Iran, for the first time, launches a massive drone and missile barrage against Israel in retaliation for the embassy airstrike. Let's post this now, and any further information about loss of life, destruction, targets can be added when we have more info. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 23:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  No, because the article is not yet of quality until the event actually completes. We are not a news ticker, we can wait until ultimate damage occurs. Masem (t) 23:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Support "This is the first direct military confrontation between the two countries since the beginning of the Iran–Israel conflict."

Oh shit, it's really happening. Bremps... 23:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Support: these attacks are real, there are sirens in Jerusalem and there have been missiles seen fired across the Middle East LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

"Blasts heard above Israel after Iran launches drone attack" per Guardian. Post immediately. BilboBeggins (talk) 23:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support it's been confirmed and is a major escalation. Banedon (talk) 23:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait, does everything have to be posted immediately? Nothing, in terms of impact, is clear at this moment. ITN is not IT Breaking N. ---Sluzzelin talk 00:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Iran says the attack is concluded barring an Israel counter-attack. Not saying this doesn't likely change the reason to post this, but we should be considering posting soon now. --Masem (t) 01:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  It's saying the whole tit-for-tat has concluded, not the tat. But yeah, that includes the tat. I think it was handled pretty well, all things considered, and don't think anyone's to blame for where shrapnel lands; get well soon, little girl! InedibleHulk (talk) 01:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support The attack ended and it is quite important of an escalation. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 01:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  Or a conclusion. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Posted A rough consensus appears to support posting and the article now appears to be adequate in quality. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:26, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article presents this as if it were WW3 with long lists of world leaders including Biden, Macron and Sunak. The reality seems to be that it was a lot of "sound and fury signifying nothing" as the Middle East has been a free fire zone for some time and this seems to be more of the same but with less impact than most. As it's just the latest round in an ongoing conflict, it would be better to have a more general entry such as Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war in Ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  Andrew Davidson, yes this feels quite similar to the response to the assassination of Soleimani (which in fairness we did post). Curbon7 (talk) 09:44, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  We posted a composite blurb in that case: "After a U.S. airstrike kills Iranian general Qasem Soleimani (pictured), at least 56 people die in a stampede during his burial procession in Kerman, and Iranian forces attack two military bases in Iraq." This is another similar tit for tat. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: gotta love how wikipedians took 15 days to place this "on the news" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.136.69 (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  What? This is the Iranian response from yesterday (that was posted after a few hours once the quality issues were fixed), the earlier Israeli airstrike was already posted when it happened. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Look at the time I nominated it ;)37.252.95.10 (talk) 14:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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(Removed) Ongoing removal : Haitian crisis

Article: Haitian crisis (2018–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian (12 April), Miami Herald (12 April), LA Times (12 April), ...
Article updated

Attacks have largely stopped and situation has largely cooled down. Lukt64 (talk)

• Support removal This doesn't seem to be something that has near daily widespread coverage (compared to the Gaza or Ukraine conflicts). --Masem (t) 13:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose What an odd claim. There is only one functioning hospital in the capital, women are dying in childbirth, schools, universities, hospitals and ships have been looted and burned in the last week, and kidnappings are reported daily (including the entire crew of a container ship). Most international papers (Le Monde, Toronto Star, BBC, Washington Post, etc.) reported on Haiti yesterday, since the Transitional Council was just officially created by decree *yesterday*. Currently, Sudan and Haiti are two of the largest humanitarian crises in the world. See above for three stories in the last day (I did not bother reporting *all* of the dozens of different sources reporting on the transitional council). As J. Charles says the situation today is one of [...] panic. You don’t know what every day is going to bring. You wake up and you hear the gunshots. People are telling me that when they don’t hear the gunfire, that’s when they start to panic and wonder what’s wrong, because it’s become such a constant for them now. Unfortunately, with the vandalism, the burning, and the looting of hospitals, it’s very difficult to get health care. source (12 April 2024)-- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 13:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  I agree that it's probably too early to remove this, but if the current status quo continues for another few months, as awful as it is, I don't think it should be ongoing. So, Oppose, but we should re-evaluate the item in the next few months PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Also. Haiti may be horrible, but gaza, ukraine and sudan is worse. Lukt64 (talk) 15:51, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I mean, it isn't really a competition. Bremps... 17:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support removal It has been ongoing for quite a long time now. Long ongoing events such as Yemen's (2014–) and Syria's (2012–) respective civil wars don't have a chance to be on the ITN template. And I agree that the Haitian crisis doesn't seem to have near daily widespread coverage compared to the situations in Ukraine or Gaza. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:2828:34A4:A394:A86F (talk) 19:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support removal Still ongoing (and tragic), but not in the dynamic sense which gives it widespread, daily coverage and makes it ITN-worthy. Yakikaki (talk) 22:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support removal per nom; article lacking significant recent updates over the past 7 days. Spencer^T•C 22:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support removal per nom and above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support removal Article does seem to be having a fair amount of dates listed for the last week or so, but those updates don't seem to be that significant. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose removal given the recent formation of the Transitional Presidential Council yesterday. The situation is still developing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Removed Stephen 22:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Stephen Respectfully, given that a new significant development of the crisis was just nominated as a blurb an hour ago, this might not have been the best moment to close the discussion. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Bondi Junction stabbings

Article: 2024 Bondi Junction stabbings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A knife attack in Sydney, Australia, leaves seven people dead. (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Stephen (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ryan Watern1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Stephen 10:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait death of seven people in a attack is very notable but currently the article is nowhere near ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

trivial event by 2024 in the West, just look at the us where things like that happen daily in Chiraq Kasperquickly (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't really think it's fair to compare routine gang violence to a mass murder incident targeting random civilians in a place where significant violent acts are extremely rare to begin with. Koiramainen (talk) 15:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

"The West" isn't a homogenous entity PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

except for if it didnt happen in the West, it wouldnt have even gotten nominated with just 7 deaths lol @PrecariousWorlds Kasperquickly (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is a significant event. Mass casualty crime is extremely rare in Australia. Article quality is now adequate for posting and will improve as more information becomes available via ordinary editing and expansion. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - no indication this will have a lasting impact. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 17:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose unfortunate event but given that there does not appear to be any tied to terrorism or other larger scheme, this is just a domestic crime. --Masem (t) 17:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support This is a significant event. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support A rare event to happen in Australia. Aircorn (talk) 17:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Fairly high number of casualties and it's a very unusual event for Australia. Koiramainen (talk) 17:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support This event is rare, is currently having a major impact on the country of Australia, and is being widely reported upon across the world. It is therefore "in the news"... that's enough. The section is called "in the news" and not "articles about events that Wikipedians speculate will have a lasting impact", for a reason... Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  That logic is used all the time to refuse posting stories that take place in the US. Would we post a stabbing spree if it happened there? Probably not. So no reason we should post this. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 18:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  A fair criticism, but for the record, if it was an American stabbing spree which was similarly rare in its nature, involved multiple deaths, and was generating global coverage, I personally would support it. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  A stabbing spree that kills 6 people in the US would be more unusual than a mass shooting that kills 6 people in the US. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  You have to remember though that this basically never happens in Australia. Mass shootings and mass stabbings are very rare in Australia because of our strict gun laws and our strict knife laws. In America there is a mass shooting every two days. The last mass stabbing in Australia was in 2017. Schestos (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  The issue is the lasting impact. We are far too quick to create articles on these types of events that ultimately fail NEVENT and only are created because of the burst of coverage. Unless there was a terrorism or similar angle to these attacks, it is unlikely to change Australian laws. — Masem (t) 20:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - A sad event, but not of the level of notability of ITN. Would we ever post this if it wasn't in a Western country? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose per this logic, unless the motive indicates something that might make it have a wider impact such as terrorism I don't believe it should be posted. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  If it made international news, yes. Schestos (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  How convenient then that 90% of the sources we use to judge the "international-ness" of news are based in the US, UK, Western Europe, or Australia. AryKun (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose While this does have a fairly high death count, the article as of now does not indicate this will have a lasting impact. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support A stabbing spree that kills 6 people (the attacker was killed by a cop) is unusual & notable enough to post. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support: this was a tragic moment and it is currently the top story in Australia. Special editions of Australian news programs are being aired and the stabbing has made international headlines since such an attack is very rare in Australia (this is the first mass stabbing in Australia since 2017).

Schestos (talk) 23:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support I'm on the fence, but leaning toward support given the rarity of such an event in Australia and international reaction. I do agree that it may not have a lasting impact (which in itself is a WP:CRYSTALBALL discussion), but while I acknowledge that as an issue in terms of WP:GNG, this is not a deletion discussion, and I don't think that matters for ITN. Melmann 00:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  ITN is not a deletion discussion, but our bar should be at least higher than GNG. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  If there is an argument as to whether there should even be an article on the event due to lasting impact, then there really should be no question that it's inappropriate for ITN. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 03:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Rockstone35 @Chaotic Enby Why? The purpose of ITN as far as I understand is to highlight the news-related content of enwiki. As there is no significant dispute around the veracity of the facts presented in the article, and the article is not currently being considered for deletion, why is ITN the right venue to adjudicate WP:GNG concerns?

  As I said, long term notability of this article is WP:CRYSTALBALL, but Wikipedia is WP:NOTPAPER, and there is no WP:DEADLINE, so why not simply wait to discuss WP:GNG concerns if an when they become evident, which they are not currently. Melmann 10:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  While WP:DEADLINE is an essay pertaining to more general cases, there is absolutely a deadline if we're posting news-related items on the main page. That's how news work. And ITN's purpose is to highlight encyclopedic news-related content (we're not a news ticker), so if there's a doubt about the article being encyclopedic, it shouldn't be here. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  I don’t see why there’d be doubts about the article being encyclopedic. There are plenty of articles about less deadly attacks. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support: This is a notable event with coverage from many international news sources. It is also a rareity in Australia for an event like this to happen (compared to (for example) a shooting in the US or an incident in a non-western country)). HoHo3143 (talk) 04:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Rare events are significant and notable, and are likely to have long-term significance. Article is comprehensive and well-written. Happily888 (talk) 07:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose because it appears to be a crime with no geopolitical significance. Very sad event, but we routinely don't post news items with this range of casualties. Jehochman ^Talk 15:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment -- I removed the "ready" marking. There are 10 supports and 6 opposes -- hardly a consensus to post. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 21:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Continued coverage on the event: "Bondi Junction stabbing offender Joel Cauchi diagnosed with schizophrenia at 17", ABC News, 17 April; "Sydney mall attacker may have targeted women, police say, as more details emerge of his six victims", CNN, 16 April; "The Sydney Mall Attack Was Horrifying. It Could Have Been Worse" , Time, 16 April; "Bondi Junction stabbing: French man who confronted attacker with bollard to receive permanent residency, The Guardian, 15 April. 15 of 18 attacked were women,[5] and authorities are investigating whether they were targeted.[6] We should post this as we would apparent targeting of those because of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. whether or not this is technically called by governments as terrorism.—Bagumba (talk) 05:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Marking for decision. 3+ days of discussion should be enough to decide yea or nay.—Bagumba (talk) 05:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support Worldwide coverage, article looks good and this appears to be an overall uncommon event. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not a significant enough crime to feature on ITN, in my opinion --Torsodog^Talk 11:45, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Continued international coverage today: "Sydney's Bondi Westfield mall reopens for tributes after fatal stabbings", Reuters, 18 April.—Bagumba (talk) 18:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support It's a shame we haven't posted this already. Plenty of global news coverage and it's a notable and rare event. Flyingfishee (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
• Request @Admins willing to post ITN:  : Please consider closing this one way or another. Thanks in advance.—Bagumba (talk) 01:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. Anarchyte (talk) 09:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Disappointing, there was really no consensus to post this. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 17:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

April 12

Portal:Current events/2024 April 12

April 12, 2024 (2024-04-12) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Russia launches drone strikes across Ukraine. Critical infrastructure is damaged in Kherson Oblast and a fire occurs at the Dnieper Hydroelectric Station in Zaporizhzhia causing around half a tonne of oil products to leak into the Dnieper river. (Reuters) (Ukrainska Pravda) War in Sudan Humanitarian impact of the war in Sudan Canada pledges $132.2 million dollars to Sudan to help people affected by the country's ongoing humanitarian crisis. (Global News) Alliance of Sahel States Nigerien crisis Dozens of Russian military instructors arrive in Niger as part of an agreement with the ruling military junta to a install state-of-the-art air defence system. (BBC News) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah forces launch dozens of rockets into northern Israel. The militant group says that the missile barrage targeted IDF artillery positions. No casualties are reported. (Al Arabiya) War in Amhara Two Fano militants are killed and a third is arrested during a shootout with police near the Millennium Hall in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. A civilian is also killed and two officers are wounded. (The Washington Post) Business and economy Economic impact of the Israel–Hamas war, Egypt–European Union relations The European Union pledges €1 billion in short-term financial aid to Egypt to help stabilise the country's economy. (Reuters) International relations Iran–Israel proxy conflict Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus It is reported that Israel is preparing for a direct retaliatory strike from Iran on southern or northern Israel as soon as the next 24 to 48 hours. A person briefed by the Iranian leadership says that while plans to strike are being discussed, no final decision has been made. (The Wall Street Journal) The United States restricts travel for its embassy personnel in Israel amid fears of a retaliation by Iran. (BBC News) The British government advises against all travel to Israel and the Palestinian territories due to the imminent possibility of an Iranian strike. (Middle East Monitor) France advises its citizens against traveling to Iran, Lebanon, Israel Palestine due to the risk of military escalation. (CNN) Germany tells its citizens to leave Iran immediately, saying that "air, land and sea transport routes" will likely be affected by military action in the region. (Reuters) Law and crime Censorship in Mali The military junta in Mali prohibits all forms of media from reporting on activities of political parties and associations. (NOS) Pakistan designates the Iranian Quds Force Liwa Zainebiyoun as a terrorist organization. (VOA) Science and technology Russia successfully test-launches an intercontinental ballistic missile from the Kapustin Yar launch complex in Astrakhan Oblast. (Reuters)

RD: Don Donoher

Article: Don Donoher (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Basketball coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the article has a orange tag and multiple cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Transitional Presidential Council constituted

Article: Transitional Presidential Council (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Haiti prepares to temporarily transfer presidential powers to a collegial executive. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.lapresse.ca/international/caraibes/2024-04-12/haiti/le-conseil-presidentiel-de-transition-est-officiellement-cree.php
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Chetsford (talk · give credit)

Chetsford (talk) 21:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability if the Ongoing item is removed, Oppose otherwise. Added links in blurb. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Also, if the council takes power, the blurb should be updated as an ITN/R development. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Support due to the ongoing item being removed. Lukt64 (talk) 22:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Wait It doesn't seem like the situation regarding the council is fully clear. The article says in the lead that it was "constituted" on 12 April, but it still has not been "established through appointment of its members and is not operative." I think we should at least wait until it is officially established, which the background section explicitly says has not yet happened. Gödel2200 (talk) 23:44, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I see the rationale in waiting. On the other hand, the newsworthiness of the council is merely the fact that it was constituted as even that simple step marks the culmination of nearly six months of negotiations. This is currently the leading story in all Haitian media. (Realistically, the council is probably never going to get off the ground and its eventual failure will be the fulcrum on which the further deterioration of the situation turns.) Chetsford (talk) 01:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, certainly the mere fact that the council is being constituted is being widely reported and is a big event. But it seems premature to post a blurb about it, when the blurb only says that Haiti "prepares" to form the council. In my mind, the main notability of this would be the council becoming the head of state. I think we should treat this like any other change in such a position, and not post until we actually know who, if anyone, will take up the new positions. Gödel2200 (talk) 03:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Gotta disagree here. We've known such a council was going to be created since Ariel Henry announced he was stepping down. This is no more notable than said announcement and will be less important than when it officially takes power. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom. It will technically become ITNR only when the council takes power, but the formation itself is newsworthy now. The ultimate fate of the council - including whether it ever becomes "fully operative" - may take a long time to more clearly materialize; it could fall apart completely and spur another major development, or the next step after this might just be a symbolic/bureaucratic milestone that generates lesser coverage if all goes to plan. Flip^andFlopped ツ 02:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose "As of 13 April 2024, it had yet to be established through appointment of its members and is not operative". Stephen 03:48, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Wait/Oppose. Said council has not taken power yet. Yes, it is in the news now. It will also be when the council takes power. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Subject is more thoroughly treated in the main article Haitian crisis (2018–present)#Transitional Presidential Council. The fork should list the members and should note that the Transitional Council has rejected the presidential decree. Surprisingly, neither entry mentions the opposition to foreign meddling. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 04:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

"neither entry mentions the opposition to foreign meddling" It does have six paragraphs about that, but I suppose there's always room for more. "fork should list the members" There are no members to list. The propositional council had members. The council as legally constituted has no members. Chetsford (talk) 05:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

My apologies, I did miss that you had included some foreign criticism (Kim Ives in Brooklyn, a Canadian activist) under domestic reaction. As you know, the Council has rejected the decree as modified by the lame duck government. The composition of the council has been reported on by multiple sources and should be included in the article. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 05:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

No worries. It sounds like you also missed domestic criticism in the domestic reaction section like Jacky Lumarque, Camille LeBlanc, etc. "The composition of the council has been reported on by multiple sources" It seems as though there's some confusion. The council as constituted (the subject of the article) has no members. The propositional council (also called Transitional Presidential Council) has nine members. The two are legally separate entities and, until the members of the latter are appointed to the former (not a sure thing) have no relational overlap other than their names are spelled the same. Chetsford (talk) 05:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The published decree does indeed include 9 members (as you correctly wrote in the entry), (all of whom reject the decree as published because it does not list the names of the representatives and adds requirements concerning accounting clearance). Will check back this evening to see if this has been updated. (I would much rather be able to support). -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 07:25, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I see. I think you're being cheeky and I missed it so I'll just leave this note for the awareness of others and move on (but, if there actually is confusion, I'd be happy to discuss it at the article Talk page). The decree does not include nine members. It includes provision for nine members. The TPC that is the subject of this article is a body with no actual members that was created on April 12. The TPC to which you're referring is a legally separate body that has nine members who earnestly expect to be appointed to the former body to fill its nine vacant slots. But per CRYSTALBALL we can't list members of a board based merely on the confidence of candidates they'll be appointed to it anymore than we could list Keir Starmer as the PM of the UK because he's really confident he'll win the next election. Thanks! Chetsford (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

You should definitely not confuse "cheekiness" with rigor. There is a history to the Transitional Council which should be identified. There were nine names set out, as documented in the parent article. That they were not validated by the outgoing government is, in itself, part of the story of the TC. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 16:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

My bad, I didn't mean to suggest anything untoward, I just thought you were being jocular. Again, this is an article on a body that was legally constituted three days ago, whereas the TPC to which you're referring is a body of the same name that conjured itself into existence in March to advise the creation of the regularized body (and whose members are making a political claim to also being the April TPC, which may be the source of the confusion). Not sure how better to explain it, but happy to continue discussion at the article's Talk page if there's still incertitude. Sorry again if I misinterpreted you. Chetsford (talk) 17:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until the TPC is operational. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) AMIA bombing ruling

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Article: AMIA bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An Argentinian court rules that Iran was responsible for the 1994 bombing of a Jewish Community Center in Argentina, and characterizes Iran as a terrorist state (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/world/middleeast/argentina-iran-1992-1994-attack.html
Credits:

• Nominated by BilledMammal (talk · give credit)

BilledMammal (talk) 06:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The article has only three sentences about this update, and doesn't actually describe the implications this will have. If this is just a ruiling, and won't actually bring about any changes, then I don't think it is significant enough (even though Iran is being labelled as a terrorist state). Gödel2200 (talk) 13:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Gödel2200: I've expanded the article; it also declares the attack a crime against humanity, and it allows families of the victims to pursue cases against Iran in the ICC by ruling that states who finance and plan terror attacks can be held responsible for them even if the attack itself is carried out by a non-state actor. BilledMammal (talk) 14:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Good faith nom but not really that notable in the grand scheme of things. Unless this ruling actually causes any diplomatic or geopolitical consequences then it isn't that significant (per Gödel2200). TwistedAxe [contact] 23:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Could reconsider if there are further diplomatic consequences. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - little to no practical consequence here, and barely "news" given the actual event happened, checks watch, thirty years ago. nableezy - 11:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support - relevant in view of the latest Iranian attack on Israel. Do I need to explain? Vegan416 (talk) 19:37, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Eleanor Coppola

Article: Eleanor Coppola (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Wife of Francis Ford Coppola and filmmaker herself. Several unsourced paragraphs. Masem (t) 02:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the article needs more sources particularly the filmography section. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Her career, filmography and early life have long stretches without citations. Bremps... 17:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

RD: Roberto Cavalli

Article: Roberto Cavalli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Mooonswimmer 20:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Very famous designer, but there are many citation needed templates, so this needs to be addressed. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose missing key section about his shutting down his North America business, that was added w/ copyvio.Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Robert MacNeil

Article: Robert MacNeil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Tails Wx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Thriley (talk) 18:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose multiple CN tags, but is being updated Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there are several cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Citations have been added. Article appears ready. Thriley (talk) 17:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) B.O.A.T. cause established

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Article: GRB 221009A (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Brightest Of All Time (pictured) was caused by an exploding star but heavy elements are missing (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Researchers find that the Brightest Of All Time (pictured) was caused by a supernova, but lacks the expected heavy elements.
News source(s): BBC; Nature Astronomy
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

I missed the news about the B.O.A.T. at the time and I don't recall ITN covering it. This was off-the-scale huge, making the eclipse seem quite insignificant. A peer-reviewed analysis has been published and there seem to be two significant findings. One is that it was caused by a supernova, which wasn't established before. And, second, that there was surprising lack of heavy elements produced by this big bang. We seem to have work to do to reflect this. But, as there are often calls to wait for peer-reviewed analysis of such science, here's an opportunity to follow up. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - this is interesting, but the time to have posted it was when it happened... two years ago. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 18:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as these results are quite inconclusive. But Rockstone is wrong: the story here is the findings, which were released recently, not the BOAT itself. GenevieveDEon (talk) 18:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Maybe unorthodox, but I always like to see more scientific discoveries featured on ITN. The blurb should make it clear that the news is the publishing of the peer-reviewed results. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Don't see this information in question included in the target article, and even if it were, information regarding potential implications of such would be nice as well. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:48, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I don't see this fundamentally changing the understanding of astrophysics, and Earth witnessed the event 2 years ago. I would recommend if this could be DYK to be posted there. --Masem (t) 18:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
• Conditional Support given that 1) the information is included in the target article and 2) the absolute magnitude of the event is included within the relevant spectra. High encyclopedic value with the timeliness element, and of interest to a significant proportion of our readers. Not all ITN-newsworthy events are crimes, wars, political and sporting events, or life-threatening geological disasters. 142.117.133.114 (talk) 22:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Should be DYN. Didgogns (talk) 00:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Interesting, but better suited for DYK. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Because the word "All" in the name "Brightest Of All Time" is just plain stupid. HiLo48 (talk) 01:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  That's how it is called in sources, that wasn't made up for the blurb. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 02:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  It's irrelevant who uses the word, it's inane. HiLo48 (talk) 10:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Whether you like the name or not shouldn't be an argument to post/not post. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  Actually, it is. It's a stupid, unprovable claim. We should not post stupid, unprovable claims. HiLo48 (talk) 22:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

  You are entitled to your own opinion but it is referred to as "Brightest Of All Time" in [7] scientific literature that concluded it was the "brightest ever detected by the measures of peak flux and fluence"]. And regardless, we should refer to everything by its WP:COMMONNAME. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  That link doesn't work. And "Brightest Of All Time" is not the same as ""brightest ever detected by the measures of peak flux and fluence". HiLo48 (talk) 06:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  Link fixed. And what's the difference between the two? As far as I'm concerned, it's the brightest we as humans have ever been able to detect, which to me is certiainly significant... Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  I agree, but it's not what the blurb says. HiLo48 (talk) 06:44, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  How does, "Researchers find that the brightest and most energetic gamma-ray burst ever recorded was caused by a supernova, but lacks the expected heavy elements" sound? Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  Much better. HiLo48 (talk) 07:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose While I'd argue that it's at least as notable as the eclipse, it is more suitable for DYK, as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

As people keep saying this, note that articles qualify for DYK by being new, expanded fivefold or passing a GA review. None of these apply and so the suggestion is irrelevant. The topic does however qualify for ITN because it’s in the news — that’s where I noticed it. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There currently aren't any mentions of this update in the article. So, without knowledge of what implications this finding might have, it seems premature to post this to ITN. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Gordon Balser

Article: Gordon Balser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CTV
Credits:

• Nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit), Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian politician and educator The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose although the article is sourced enough, it is bit short and there is no information about his life between 2003 and 2024. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 10:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

• A short wikibio with only 236 words of prose. Anything more to write about this guy? Perhaps what he did while in office (and between shuffles)? --PFHLai (talk) 21:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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