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:::Don't worry mate. We'll have you seen too and then everyone can forget you exist for a while. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 05:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
:::Don't worry mate. We'll have you seen too and then everyone can forget you exist for a while. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 05:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]], the IP hopper from United Arab Emerites is back engaging in their usual disruption. They've reverted the article with three seperate IPs to maintain a version they like. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]], the IP hopper from United Arab Emerites is back engaging in their usual disruption. They've reverted the article with three seperate IPs to maintain a version they like. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::It's not the version I like - it's the policy and consensus compliant version. [[Special:Contributions/94.200.83.10|94.200.83.10]] ([[User talk:94.200.83.10|talk]]) 06:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== RFC - War criminal in first sentence == |
== RFC - War criminal in first sentence == |
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A fact from Ben Roberts-Smith appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 January 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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War criminal in first sentence
Last year there was consensus established that he should not be called a war criminal in the first sentence as there has not been a criminal conviction perWP:BLPCRIME among other reasons. As a result the second sentence specifying what a civil court found was added to. We should not be adding war criminal in wikivoice now unless there's been a criminal conviction. 2001:8F8:1D63:6485:17CD:3B73:BC40:4AD0 (talk) 04:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- The judge said he is a war criminal, so we can too. HiLo48 (talk) 04:17, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- The judge did not say he was a war criminal. That's specifically why the opening sentences are currently constructed the way they are after extensive discussion last year. The established version should stand until a new consensus is established - and given the restrictions of BLP:CRIME it must be a very strong one. 94.200.83.10 (talk) 05:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello old friend. IP hoping around the United Arab Emirates isn't going to stop you getting blocked. TarnishedPathtalk 05:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Both IPs above are me. I've started an RfC below, so we can establish if there's a new consensus. For the what it's worth I think he 'is' a war criminal, but I don't think per WP:BLPCRIME we can call him that without an actual conviction 94.200.83.10 (talk) 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry mate. We'll have you seen too and then everyone can forget you exist for a while. TarnishedPathtalk 05:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Both IPs above are me. I've started an RfC below, so we can establish if there's a new consensus. For the what it's worth I think he 'is' a war criminal, but I don't think per WP:BLPCRIME we can call him that without an actual conviction 94.200.83.10 (talk) 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Bbb23, the IP hopper from United Arab Emerites is back engaging in their usual disruption. They've reverted the article with three seperate IPs to maintain a version they like. TarnishedPathtalk 05:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's not the version I like - it's the policy and consensus compliant version. 94.200.83.10 (talk) 06:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
RFC - War criminal in first sentence
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Should we call Ben Roberts-Smith a war criminal in the opening sentence? 05:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC) 94.200.83.10 (talk) 05:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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