Talk:Big Brother (British TV series) series 8

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Semi Protected

I had to semi-protect the article, as this afternoon there was a lot of vandalism, I had to spend 20 minutes clearing it up. Everyone happy with this? John Hayes 16:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I have reverted the addition of the template. You're not an administrator and therefore cannot protect pages. Thanks, — Xy7 16:59, 07 June 2007

Hi John - don't worry, many users have made the same mistake :) If you need a page protecting, only an administrator can do it - to request, ask on WP:RFPP where you'll normally get a fast response. Majorly (talk | meet) 17:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Really? Wow, how come I'm able to then? well I guess I should request it then. John Hayes 23:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, I didn't read that the first time I read the protection policy, my mistake. I have requested it now. It still surpises me that it's possible for non-admins to do that. John Hayes 23:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

By adding the template, you didn't protect it - the template just informs people that it is protected - admins have to use their tools that we don't have to do it :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 10:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes we do. Article semi-protected for 24 hours. It is better to request semi protection if crap is being added, rather than continually removing it (potentially risking 3RR). Neil ╦ 10:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand now. So should the template be added now, and if so am I allowed to do it? John Hayes 11:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 11:51, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. One question how does the time bit of that template work, can't see instructions for it John Hayes 12:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the template to the smaller icon that appears in the top right corner - I hope noone minds, but it reduced the amount of banners at the top of the article :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 12:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Seems sensible John Hayes 12:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I've had the page semi-protected again, this time for a week, as the vandalism, unsourced comments, and potential libel from IP users has continued. John Hayes 10:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Well the protection has run out, so lets see how it goes. Only one, possible, incident of vandalism, though I think that was done in good faith. John Hayes 13:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to request it again, still quite a big of IP vandalism John Hayes^talk 10:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Requested John Hayes^talk 10:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a week again. And...... relax. John Hayes^talk 14:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

And again. Did anyone request it this time? John Hayes^talk 16:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

And again, until the end of the series, replaced with small template. John Hayes^talk 16:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Is a two-month protection really necessary? Anonymous users do provide useful information and updates in this article, even if some of them do go a bit mad sometimes. — Xy7 18:28, 03 July 2007

Probably not, the admin seems to have taken it upon himself since he first did it. I certainly didn't request it. I don't really mind either way, though it has become a bit dead round here recently. John Hayes^talk 18:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Jonathan

Although he walked on Day 35 he still nominated on Day 34, I can't recall anyone walking the day after nomination before, but his choices (I will guess Nicky and Tracey) may still count. We will see on tonight's program, but if so the table will have to be adjusted. Darrenhusted 11:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah i was wondering about that. Though if he voted for Charley I hope they keep them! But I think the table should show his nominations, but with a note (and strking them through) saying that didn't count (if that becomes the case). But you're right we'll find out tonight what happens. They might mention it on BBLB too. --81.178.69.196 11:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, based on how we have previously handled nominations which didn't count (see Billi and Charley), we should list them, but strike them through if they are not counted. If they are counted we should list them as normal. John Hayes^talk 12:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that the last time this happened was with Sandy in BB3, he nominated then walked two days later, his ovtes still counted, although the announcement had been made, this time the announcment hasn't been made. All we can do is watch. Darrenhusted 12:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Table column: Nomination Twist

The first two listings in this table (Notes 1+2) are nomination twists... But i don't see how the third is? If Jonathan's nominations weren't counted, and this isn't a nomination twist, why are not counting Charley's and Billi's votes a nomination twist? Maybe there could be another column listed in the table? Though it should be noted why the votes were not counted. --85.210.161.91 21:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

We don't know if Jonathan's nominations count or not. On the subject of Charley and Billi's votes, there is a discussion at the Big Brother WikiProject on this subject, that nomination twist is not the best term for this. Feel free to comment on that discussion. John Hayes^talk 16:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Subsections in House section

I would like to add some subsections to the House section, to improve it. Currently it's a bit "and this room... and this room... and this room". I think it would be improved by having subsections for various rooms. For example one for diary room, ones for the secret rooms etc. Obviously there wouldn't be any point having a subsection for each piece of info. What do you think? John Hayes^talk 16:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I have made a few changes now, seperated into Main Area (isn't enough content for bedroom by itself), Garden, Diary Room, Hidden Room and Rumoured Areas.

Jonathan Left?

On the Official Website it doesnt Say Walked it says Left, Should we change it on wikipedia or keep it like we kep Emily Ejected whereas on the official website it says Removed

See the discussion about this on the Big Brother Wikiproject. John Hayes^talk 22:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Big Twist

The Insider on Big Brother's Little Brother has said that tonight, there will be a big twist involving Australia. Fugio 18:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The Room of Nicky

How do we know this was actually in the hidden room on the other side of the diary room and not just the lobby area again? — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 19:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

It was just the lobby room.FiringRange 20:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

That's what I thought. It needs to be removed from the "Hidden Room" section if that is the case. Also the lobby needs to be added and the bathroom shouldn't be in the diary room section. I'd fix it now myself but Big Brother's about to start ;) — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 20:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

There was a map showing the house and some of the secret rooms, if you want I can put it on this discussion article? EDIT: Found 'em. http://insidebigbrother.net/bb/images/stuff/housepics1.jpg http://insidebigbrother.net/bb/images/stuff/housepics2.jpg