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Oh come on, you can't still be angry about that Zadar thing, it was an accident, ffs. I became agressive? well if nothing else I was not alone. About the capitol, I was not talking about the current situation at all, but about the capitols of the traditional divisions of Dalmatia.
Oh come on, you can't still be angry about that Zadar thing, it was an accident, ffs. I became agressive? well if nothing else I was not alone. About the capitol, I was not talking about the current situation at all, but about the capitols of the traditional divisions of Dalmatia.
:I am not angry nor I was angry, annoyed perhaps. What traditional division? Dalmatia was divided and encompassed various areas from ancient to modern times. From what I gather you refer to the Austro-Hungarian division of Dalmatia, no? That is hardly a traditional division. --[[User:No.13|No.13]] 14:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
:I am not angry nor I was angry, annoyed perhaps. What traditional division? Dalmatia was divided and encompassed various areas from ancient to modern times. From what I gather you refer to the Austro-Hungarian division of Dalmatia, no? That is hardly a traditional division. --[[User:No.13|No.13]] 14:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

== Direktore, nemoj nasjedati na laznu 'milost' ==

Dragi Direktore, vrlo sam sretan sto si postao clanom wikipedije, i vec poceo uredjivati neke clanke. Ja sam vrlo slicnih pogleda kao ti, volim istinu i znanje i mrzim one koji ignoriraju ili prikrivaju istinu raznim lazima i provokacijama. Takodjer, jos dok nisi bio registriran clan wikipedije, uvijek smo imali ista misljenja na wikipediji, u raznim raspravama uglavnom o nasem Srpskohrvatskom jeziku, njegovih narecja, historiji Jugoslavije, Titu i sl. Mozda cu , ako budem imao vremena, se i ja registrirati i nastaviti borbu za istinu, ovoga puta kao zvanicni clan. Sa Engleskim sam OK, sami mi treba puno vremena.
Uz ovaj pozdrav tebi, samo bih te opomenuo da ne nasjedas na 'slatkim rijecima' tipova sa hrvatske wikipedije poput Kubure, Ante P., Mir Kurvena:)) i jos 2 ili 3 sijaca neistina i mrznje na wikipediji. Njihova jalova separatisticka propaganda je pred krahom, niko ozbiljan ih ne uzima vise u obzir i njihove lazi koje plasiraju na stranicama wikipedije su sve providnije i providnije. Uskoro ce im se sav trud proglasiti uzaludnim i bit ce skinut sa wikipedije, a oni i njihov smrad, mrznju i otrov koji su sijali medju juznoslavenskim narodima nestace sa njima samima, zauvijek.
Dajem ti punu podrsku i zelim ti puno uspjeha u daljem radu u pretstavljanju istine na stranicama wikipedije. Dobro je vidjeti da se nasa mreza ljubitelja istine i boraca protiv lazi i provokacija na wikipediji sve vise siri i uvelicava, i nadam se da cemo uskoro pobijediti svako zlo koje nam je na putu. To je ono sto bi i svaki razuman, posten i civiliziran covjek podrzao svim svojim bicem. Sve najbolje od G.V. Cheers!

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Yeah I know and I'm really sorry, I lost it I guess. It just tics me off to see people who THINK they understand the situation make such idiotic claims. It won't happen again.

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I think

you'd like the Invisible Pink Unicorn. I call it my 'god' :) hehe Stop The Lies 01:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies[reply]

I also think my userbox effed up your userpage :( lol. Ps: I friggen love Split. Went there in '05, fell in love with the place, went again in '06 (would go again this yr, but can't due to a lack of funds) :(

pps: can I recommend Vancouver as a destination once you leave hr? Awesome place, good enough to become a featured city on wiki :D (And UBC rocks) Stop The Lies 20:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies[reply]

all that work on your user page, yet so few contributions... tsk tsk... and DAMN STRAIGHT I say "eh" after every sentence! (eh) And proudly! (eh) (in all seriousness, I actually do say it sometimes, but only when I'm bugging people hehe). It's quite ironic that we almost NEVER GET SNOW HERE! I MISS SNOW! lol.

My parents went to LA, said it was one big smog-filled orgy of crappy souvenirs (not literally, but that's what I derived from their descriptions lol). Jay Leno waved to my dad though, which is kinda cool. heh. Stop The Lies 08:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies[reply]

I am a wiki-nerd :( lol

I'm pretty much always on wiki cuz I take my laptop wherever I go. I'm in class right now actually :) About the barnstar, that's exactly what I thought, that I hope my views aren't unique, or if they are that they don't remain unique. On wikipedia though, they definitely are unique, sadly. I've only seen a few editors who didn't display an outright bias based on their nationality, including myself, you, God of Justice, and a few others.... pretty sad... Why wouldn't I be interested in the Balkans?? It's where I come from! Despite all the bullcrap that goes on down there, I love it. The people are so full of passion, (although it's usually used in the wrong way, but oh well... lol). Canada is so damn BLAND compared to the Balkans, which is good in a way, but not in others... And please DO keep thinking that most of the people here are blissfully ignorant when it comes to that part of the world. Here's an EXAMPLE: Just today in class, I told a guy I was from Yugo, and he asks me "So, you speak Russian then?" HAHHAA OMG WOW HOW BRILLIANTLY IGNORANT OF HIM! Anyway, that's what most people here are like... the majority of people have NO IDEA where Yugo is! But they can still tell you that Serbs are bloodsucking savages because they learned that on trustworthy CNN lol... *sigh.. yay for ignorant American Hollywood culture :D (PS: I like how you termed our war the "World's Stupidest War" because that's exactly what it was lol). Maîtresse 22:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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No you silly boy! :P

I actually don't think Kosovo should stay in Serbia, but only for practical reasons. Yes, given different circumstances (if people weren't suffering so much and if Kosovo wasn't such a financial burden for Serbia) Kosovo should stay in Serbia. However, those circumstances are not present, and despite all the history and culture contained in Kosovo, it simply would benefit both Serbs and Kosovar Albanians if Kosovo became independent (but definitely not if it joined w/ Albania, that should NEVER happen!). If Kosovo split w/ Serbia, the culture and history of Kosovo would actually be better contained since Albanians would stop burning historical artifacts and buildings because they got what they wanted (at least some of them would stop anyway). Here's more on my opinion on Kosovo, and Yugo in general: en:User_talk:Bože_pravde#Thank_you_very_much.21 Maîtresse 22:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well I certainly like how you actually provided an argument rather than just saying IT'S SERBIA'S RIGHT or some crap like that. And yes, you're completely right that another failure statelet is the last thing the region needs. (I change my mind about once a month on the issue btw hehe when I hear convincing arguments from either side.) However, Kosovo is pretty much run/funded by the UN, much more than they would get from Serbia (who's giving $ to the Serbs, which pisses off the Albanians). You may think you're taking the 'nationalists' side but you're not. They're being idiots who simply want to keep the province out of selfish reasons (pride etc.) while you're looking at it from an economic perspective (DON'T EVER THINK YOU'RE LIKE THEM! lol :P). However, when you said that sooner or later they'll forget their differences, that's a VERY optimistic and idealistic side of you speaking... I think it will take many many many many generations for the tension to get even slightly decreased! Most people down there live in ignorance, and they will for many many many further generations, not allowing any reason to enter their heads, only being filled with nationalistic pride and hatred (for either those savage Serbs, or those slimy Albanians, if you get my point). *Sigh... I WISH it could be different, but I think it won't happen for a really long time, if EVER... In addition, considering how much crime (drug trafficking, kidnapping/prostitution trafficking, terrorism establishment etc.) is going on in Kosovo, Serbia needs to separate itself from that and try to gain a clean slate, and re-establish strong connections with the west (as much as they've fucked us over, they can also put us back on our feet again... those bastards lol). OK I'm gonna STOP ranting now hahah. (Ps: yea seriously, talk about bunnies...lol) Maîtresse 21:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop posting me your riddiculous warnings LEO

Ask someone on the street to translate this for you: Look you freak, stop copy pasteing me your meaningless warnings, "LEO". You are not even registered. It is not working. I know you are practicaly mute in the world's most important language ("inglese"), but just sending me your STUPID warnings is not going to do anything, it wont even make me angry, I just delete them. REGISTER AND TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE NORMAL GUYS DO. IF YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU ARE THAT ILLITERATE IN ENGLISH, THAN GET THE #&$& OFF WIKIPEDIA, ENGLISH. Fascist censorship does not work in non-axis countries. DIREKTOR

DIREKTOR, please don't loose you nerve.
Rather write down here (with links) all those LEO's "warnings" (some warnings are made in good faith, but some warnings are kind of annoying and even threat; the follower of the discussion can see to which kind those "warnings" belong.
DIREKTORE, ako te je ovaj maltretirao i dosađivao ti sa ispraznim upozorenjima, navedi to ovdi doli i to sa poveznicama, tako da to možemo prijaviti administratorima. Ja sam ga prijavia zbog izjave kojom vriđa Slavene.
S druge strane, nemoj gubiti živce i upasti u nikakva vandalsko-trolovska ponašanja.
Time ćeš odmoći sebi i pomoći tipu šta te gnjavi. Kubura 14:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

87.8.235.141

Hi, that's me. I usually contribute anonymously, to avoid discussions... Not kind, I know... I did not want to be so rude with your edits, but the first ones were so POV! Be careful, otherwise you will be soon bannedClap 09:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say that you are POV (anyway, what does it mean "being POV"?). Your first edits were POV, nothing more. I understand that the hints of revanchism and irredentism should have no place in Wikipedia, but trying to defend something we should not attack something else. In a few words, we should adhere to the Wikipedia policy. Clap 09:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's better that you ignore him. Don't loose your time with unuseful threats. Clap 20:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

to you too, for helping me about the article. I got a headache for more than a month because of that monkey. Zenanarh 10:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page blankings

On the contrary, it is not actually a blockable offense to delete messages. It is discouraged, but the guidelines of Wikipedia suggest that it is not prohibited. Cheers. --Dark Falls talk 10:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your reverts

If you haven't noticed you have reverted my reverts of the edit warrior (IP 209.215.160.114) on Zadar and History of Dalmatia. You have now effectively reverted to his version, the very same you have been reverting before that. Please take notice of what you are doing. --No.13 18:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Sorry

No problem. Will you revert it back or I will do it? I think it is better that you revert it back becase it will be considered as one revert. Also I have requested semi-protection of Istrian Exodus and made them know about this user and his edit wars on Zadar, History of Dalmatia and Istrian Exodus so hopefully they will take it from there and deal with it. Regards. --No.13 18:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Brunodam warning removal conversation reply

I'm responding here instead of at Brunodam's talkpage because this is a direct response to your question. Current policy allows for talkpage warning removals, I'm not sure I'd refer to the actions as presumptious or offensive per se. If there are concerns about the editor's edits, you have warned them, and they are continuing those edits (without diffs I have no idea if there is merit to the warning or not, I'm speaking hypothetically), then WP:ANI or WP:AIV is more effective than haranguing someone about removing a warning template...--Isotope23 18:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Republic of Ragusa

First, the infobox says that Italian was official, so I went with that. It says that Dalmatian was a vernacular language, but that Italian was, from 1492, an official language (and Latin was official until 1492). That doesn't mean that it was widely spoken, however, just that Latin had become too far removed from the reality of the situation to be useful even as a ceremonial official language by that point. Second, the infobox shows the dates 1358-1808 (the accepted dates of existence of the political entity that we can confidently call the Republic of Ragusa), and so the flags and links on either side must show the direct predecessor and successor states from those dates. Oh, and BTW, do you know what "Republic of Ragusa" would be in Dalmatian? Lexicon (talk) 13:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Respublica di Ragusa, I believe. But I admit I am not sure... It is an extinct romance language so it is not widely known even around these parts... I accept your argument concerning one of the points. But you must realise one thing: the hatred of the Ragusans for their arch-rival the Venetian Republic is epic (why do you think Ragusa has those famous massive seaward walls and forts?) For them to have Italian (i.e. Venetian) as an "official" (there was no such institution as official languages in those days) language is I believe, highly unlikely and untrue, I don't doubt it was frequently necessary to speak it (for the merchants), but "official"? No. DIREKTOR 13:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Latin was ADMINISTRATIVE!!! not "official" language in those ages almost in the half of Europe! It means that documents were written in Latin language. At present we still have situation that scientific researches and documents published by universities have topics translated to Latin everywhere in the western civilization. Every flower or butterfly or mineral has its Latin name! Isnt' it? How is that? Obviously it is our cultural ancestry from those ages when all documents were written and published in Latin language in that part of Europe. So it was not official! BTW some documents in Dubrovnik/Ragusa were written in Dalmatian - it is well known fact. Oh, and BTW, do you know what "Canada" would be in English or French? Zenanarh 14:06, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Let's not get personal here. It is well known that Latin was maintained for a VERY long period. Italian however, was not "official"". I am sure of that. The country spoke: Latin (administrative), Croatian/Croato-Serbian (the masses), and Dalmatian (the higher classes, the Gospari), Italian was well known, that is certain, but out of necessity and mostly by the merchants, it is too much to say it was "official". DIREKTOR 14:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3RR Report

Regarding a report filed against you at WP:AN3 for a 3RR violation, I have decided not to take any action against you. It seems that Isotope23 is monitoring the situation and judged this a case of IP disruption, to which you were responding. In the future, however, please seek admin assistance sooner rather than revert-warring - you can go to WP:RFPP to request semi-protection if anonymous IP disruption is a problem. MastCell Talk 02:41, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DIREKTOR 13:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ANNOTATIONS

In the ENTIRE history of unified Italy it's military never defeated a real army (Solferino was a French, Yugoslavia a German victoryDIREKTOR :SAN MARTINO WAS AN ITALIAN VICTORY,PALESTRO WAS AN ITALIAN VICTORY,VARESE WAS AN ITALIAN VICTORY,S.FERMO WAS AN ITALIAN VICTORY,BEZZECCA WAS AN ITALIAN VICTORY,PIAVE(1918)WAS AN ITALIAN VICTORY,MAGENTA WAS AN ITALIAN-FRENCH VICTORY,MONTEBELLO ALL THE SAME! SOLFERINO WAS AN ONLY FRENCH VICTORY!YUGOSLAVIA?GERMAN?READ THE HISTORY PLEASE...


All right lets go through them all: 1) San Martino? Italian vs. Italian, 2) Palestro? French victory. (and also before unified Italy), 3) Varese? before unified Italy., 4) S. Fermo? before unified Italy. 5) Bezzecca? Please! Your Third Independance War was a PRUSSIAN victory. And the battle of Bezzecca took place AFTER Bismarck's Battle of Königgrätz. Without the Prussians you would have been wiped by Austria (like in the humiliating Battle of Lissa). 6) Battaglia del Solstizio? It was not only won with HUGE lofistical and military assistance of the British and French, but it was also won at the very end of the war, when the central powers were practically already defeated, once again, by the BRITISH and FRENCH. Up to that point the Germans were continuously humiliating Italy. 7) Magenta? It was before the unification, but also you can read this: "The Battle of Magenta was fought on June 4, 1859 during the Second Italian War of Independence, resulting in a FRENCH-Sardinian victory under NAPOLEON III." Without the French you had no hope of winning the war. 8) Montebello. (before Italian unification) Once again, without the entire military strength of the Empire of France Italy had no hope of defeating the Austrians. You gave them Nice for their help. The ivasion of Yugoslavia? please! I know the complete history of that invasion. It was executed by the Germans, you only took the chance and advanced into an already defeated country. Italy couldn't defeat Greece alone, not to mention the much larger and militarily stronger Kngdom of Yugoslavia.

I KNOW my history. DIREKTOR 11:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TELL ME THE VICTORY OF YOUGOSLAVIA (san Martino was Piemonte, witouth french,vs.The Asburgic empire).

Well, Yugoslavia had the (first in WW2 and) strongest partisan movement (450 000) of all time. It defeated: Italy, the NDH, GERMANY (includeing SS divisions), the Chetniks, Hungary and Bulgaria entirely alone and with almost no assistance from any country in the Yugoslav theatre of war. DIREKTOR 11:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

too in italy was partisan,and the great britain helpes the yougoslavia.

Italian partisans were much weaker and only after 1943. It's easy to be anti-Axis in 1943. British help!? bwahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaa haaa

Italy was humiliated by Greece and could not defeat a mere 30 000 english troops in north Africa (Italian strength was 300 000). DIREKTOR 11:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In 1940 Italians was 40.000.000 ,has many colonies,has the fourth marine of the world, in Yugoslav grazed(and graze) sheeps.

True, true. That only makes it even more humiliating. :D DIREKTOR 12:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC) It also did not have the colonies or the navy for long...[reply]

tomorrow Italians are 59 milions and in yugoslavia make the missions of peace.

Yes, that's true as well, but that is a different Italy, isn't it? I have often stated I love (modern) Italy. It is a great country. Just... not a very good agressor, don't you thinK DIREKTOR 12:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The FASCIST ITALY was great.

I REALLY don't think so... Excluding Albania and Ethiopia (the world's weakest countries at the time) name one battle that Fascist Italy actually won.

the reconquest of Lybia

No, that was General Rommel and his Deutche Afrika Korps (DAK). Italians were just his supporting infantry. DIREKTOR 12:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italy had 3 the biggest battle-cruisers in the world between 2 wars in the 20th century, Pola, Zara and... Spalato? I think... Nevermind. They have lost it, all 3 in the same day! Do you know how? That's the best thing of all. That was a glory day of Italian navy, they were cruising together side by side and in the first sign of a danger they were so scared to get into the open batlle so they tried to escape away. They tried to make a sharp maneuver at full speed and... the problem was these ships were so constructed that the heaviest cannon was placed at the bow, so these monsters overturned and sank. All 3 together in the same moment. It surely was a hell of a scene to watch. So finally these glorious ships are the best known as diverse localities in our beautiful Adriatic sea. Zenanarh 13:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Zara" class heavy cruisers I think... RM Zara, RM Pola, RM Fiume and RM Gorizia. Yeah, the EXTRA-HUMILIATING Battle of Cape Matapan. A very stupid, cocky design... The Glorious Regia Marina, bwhahahhaahahaaa. ;D DIREKTOR 13:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Glorius General Tito,bwhahahhaahahaaa, ma vaffanculo!CHE GLI PIACEVA PURE IL BELINO.PS not rommel's reconquest but 30'years reconquest.PS:supporting?supporting! thousands and thousands death at el-alamein.

Tito's ingenious tactics in guerilla warfare are in military academies all over the world. Even in Italy. That is fact. Yes supporting. You would NEVER even reach El-Alamein without Rommel. Lybia? you defeated (hardly) a disconnected province of the dying and weak Ottoman empire. It was easier than Ethiopia! DIREKTOR 13:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tito's ingenius tactics...not say stupids things...Napoleon's ingenius tactics,Cesar's ingenius tactics,Eugenio di Savoia ingenius tactics,Rommel's ingenius tactics, Mc Arthur's ingenius tactics...no Tito.

Look it up, caro amico, I'm not lying. He was one of the best guerrilla commanders of all times. Eugenio di Savoia? No, I don't think so. You did have several good airforce tacticians in the 1918-1940 period. DIREKTOR 13:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tito was an assassin, Bleiburg or Pliberk do you remember? Pianculo. An advice read the article:Eugene of Savoy

I know who Eugen Savojski is! he liberated half of Croatia from the Turks. assasin? you mean killer? every general is a killer. and this one was much better than the Axis killers (gli Italiani, per esempio) killing innocent civilians around Yugoslavia those days! DIREKTOR 13:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no Italian...German!Tito wasn't a simple killer...he was the most violent killer of history with Hitler and Stalin.

Ask yourself: If he was so bad how come he's so popular today? Stalin is hated, Hitler is despised, Tito is not (except by the extreme right, of course). He was a very good dictator, a rare thing indeed. He did not kill many people. (foibe - 5000?, Bleiburg 70 000, con i soldati fascisti!) Yugoslavia had 1 700 000 dead because of the invasion. that is 5 times the italian dead (and you had 50 000 000 people at that time!).

Mussolini was a very good dictator,between 1925-1943 he didn't make massacre.27sentences,3 executions.

Zadar and Albanians

Direktore, read article Arbanasi on the hr.wiki, I don't have to copy it here.
It's enought to see the names written there. Kubura 11:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Koliko ja znam, Arbanasi su bili kršćanski Albanci u Zadru koji su se uvik borili za Veneciju i bili njeni plaćenici. DIREKTOR 11:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inflation

Direktore, nije ništa neobično što je Markovićev sustav skinia inflaciju. Usput, nisi se pita tko je tu inflaciju stvoria?
Rišavanje hiperinflacije nije nikakvi problem, naposljetku, i Valentićev sustav je rišia inflaciju. I? Ništa posebnega.
Što se tiče političara, imaj na umu da nisu svi dobronamirni. Isto tako, ako obnašaju visoke dužnosti u RH, to ne znači da oni i rade za RH i da im je RH na srcu. Ne budi naivan.
Ako misliš o 2% manje povoljnom deviznem tečaju, varaš se. Omjeri su puno veći. Da je stvar u 2%, ne bi bilo švercera devizama po tržnicami. Čoviče, pogledaj ekonomsku literaturu, ti si skroz neinformiran. Pročitaj šta su napisali Bićanić i Sirotković, to će ti bit dovoljno. Imaš još radova iz tega područja, ovih san se prvih sitia.
Ponavljan ti što mislim o tom gospodarskom udruženju i ulasku u njega: jedna je dala za doć do najlonkih. Došla je do skupe robe na lagan način, ali uvik je ostala kao "ona koja je dala".
Nemoj mislit da će ti onda bit da će nam stranci dohodit sa karijolaman i iskrićat novce. I da će bit kako naše linčine se ponašaju: "Najboje da ti turisti uopće ne dojdedu, nego da pošaljedu pineze ovamo." Kubura 11:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


LOL (šta je je). Ma dobro, al opet mi nisi reka kako to da su nam izgradili Split (već sam ti sve nabroja)? To je jedno, a drugo, nisan ja neinformiran, neznan ja šta si to čita, al je činjenica da je SR Hrvatska imala puno bolje ekonomske statistike. To ti je statistika nemoš protiv matematike, pogledaj malo 1) bruto domaći proizvod, 2) brojeve turista, 3) brojeve nezaposlenih. To je i logično jer smo bili dio 6 puta veće i ekonomski jače države. Ma gledaj ja negovorim o dobronamjernosti, ja govorim o tome da bi i njima bilo draže (više bi love nakesali) da je Hrvatska ekonomski samodostatna, to ti govorin (nije ni jedan od njih dobronamjeran). DIREKTOR 11:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tito is Dead !

May be you cannot realize this reality, but you and your croat friends are writing in the english wikipedia. And we are a community who is used to be ruled by western standards of impartiality. You cannot write falsifications of history like you used to do when the diktator Tito ruled your country: soon or later our community will react against your lies! Be sure of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.160.114 (talkcontribs) 19:02, 18 July 2007 (edit) (undo)

Tito may be dead and while this may have been a disaster for South Slavs, it means nothing to Italy. Your weak economy is losing to the German one in the struggle for economic control of this region. The borders are were they are and will not change even if il Duce rises from the grave and edits Wikipedia.DIREKTOR 21:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Childish idiot.

Its and it's

Hi. I'm glad you're still with us, trying to make articles better. Now, I have just a minor objection about grammar: I noticed this edit where you replaced "its" by "it's". You made a mistake there: the possessive pronoun is "its" without the apostrophe. "It's" is used only as an abbreviation of "it is". You can see it here: Its. --Zmaj 17:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sections

DIREKTOR, for the THIRD time, I tell you to read sections on the talkpage of Republic of Dubrovnik, that deal with history of Croat language. There was no "Croato-Serb" nor "Serbocroat". I've given sources, and instead of reading them, you're behaving like ordinary ignorant and yeller. Wiki can't function like that. Kubura 13:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian partisans

Hey, be quiet. I know that the fascists put people in the foibe, among all the other crimes. It's simply a fact that later Tito's partisans killed some Italian partisans. I'm not an historian, in a few minutes I found only a couple of names of high ranking partisans killed in Gorizia (or Stari Gorica, if you prefer) Augusto Sverzutti from the Action Party and Licurgo Olivi from the Socialist Party. Please, I do not want to make propaganda, don't attack before we start to discuss... Clap 12:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Administrative language

DIREKTOR, as administrative language, I see mostly documents in Latin, as well as some in Italian in Republic of Dubrovnik, but I haven't seen any official documents in Dalmatoromanic language.
Have you read any books? Yes, there're books in Croatian.
Second, DIREKTOR, you're missing the point. I'm speaking about the title of the article, but you interfere with "language". Put your comments in the sections where they belong. Kubura 06:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zadar

Yes, I am being a jerk and attempting to win the argument with sarcasm. We seem to have moved past any rational arguments, if we ever even began that way. I don't know what else to say; we call it "Siege of Zara", and that's that. Adam Bishop 07:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits at Republic of Ragusa

The sentence you keep changing from Croatia to Dalmatia refers to modern state of Republic of Croatia. So the sentence "The Republic ruled a compact area of southernmost Croatia" refers to the fact the Republic held the teritory which is the southernmost area of Croatia today. Do you understand? --No.13 11:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That does not change the fact that it is in Dalmatia. TODAY. It is already mentioned it is in modern times a part of Croatia. Dalmatia is a much older, more significant category as it describes the culture of the Republic FAR more acurately. It should be accentuated over Croatia, wich is historically only the central part of modern Croatia. Look it up. DIREKTOR 12:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No one is denying that obvious fact. It is already mentioned that the city itself is today part of Croatia but it doesn't mention that the Republic also ruled an area which is today part of southernmost Croatia. Thats is the whole deal with the sentence. Now stop with this. --No.13 12:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The area ruled by Republic of Ragusa was not and is not "southernmost part of Dalmatia". Southernmost part of Dalmatia is Bay of Kotor. Read the first two sentences on Dalmatia article. --No.13 13:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The bay of Kotor AND the Republic are the "southernmost" part of Dalmatia. This is well known. DIREKTOR 13:34, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only one can be southernmost and that is the 'Bay of Kotor', do you understand the meaning of the word southernmost? Apparently not. --No.13 13:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to insult my intelligence, I am trying to explain to you that the bay of Kotor and the Republic both compose a part of Dalmatia wich can be considered "southernmost". The original text denoting this was not written by an idiot. You apparently don't know much about the history and the traditional north-south division of Dalmatia. The bay of kotor and the area of the Republic were connect for a very long period. DIREKTOR 13:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bay of Kotor doesn't composes anything. It is a geographic location located in Montenegro and constitutes southernmost point of what is today considered Dalamtia. If you haven't noticed there is no Republic of Ragusa since 1806 thus it can't be part of anything. Area of what was once Republic of Ragusa is now part of Republic of Croatia and it's Dubrovnik-Neretva county. If anything it can be called Southern Dalmatia, southernmost definately not. Let me remind you that I supported you and put a good word in your last edit war, so don't make me regret it now. --No.13 13:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a single word and we have already reached consensus. We should save our efforts for the Italians. However, please note: Split is the capitol of southern Dalmatia, Dubrovnik is the capitol of "southernmost" Dalmatia. Just because Kotor is in Montenegro does not mean it cannot compose an integral part of southernmost Dalmatia along with Dubrovnik. Dalmatia is a category far exceeding Croatia and (especially ;) ) Montenegro. You are right though, I do owe you one for your support. DIREKTOR 14:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, may I ask where are you from? I'm curious...

Dubrovnik is the capital of southernmost Croatian Dalmatia, not Dalmatia in general. Southernmost Dalmatia (as in region of Dalmatia) is the Bay of Kotor not Dubrovnik. And you don't owe me anything, I do things dictated by my conscience and by what I consider good or true. I don't like how you became all aggresive over this small ridiculous issue. This is not the first time, you did the same thing at Zadar article when you didn't even look who you were reverting. You should calm down a bit, thats a friendly advice. I am from Croatia. Regards. --No.13 14:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh come on, you can't still be angry about that Zadar thing, it was an accident, ffs. I became agressive? well if nothing else I was not alone. About the capitol, I was not talking about the current situation at all, but about the capitols of the traditional divisions of Dalmatia.

I am not angry nor I was angry, annoyed perhaps. What traditional division? Dalmatia was divided and encompassed various areas from ancient to modern times. From what I gather you refer to the Austro-Hungarian division of Dalmatia, no? That is hardly a traditional division. --No.13 14:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Direktore, nemoj nasjedati na laznu 'milost'

Dragi Direktore, vrlo sam sretan sto si postao clanom wikipedije, i vec poceo uredjivati neke clanke. Ja sam vrlo slicnih pogleda kao ti, volim istinu i znanje i mrzim one koji ignoriraju ili prikrivaju istinu raznim lazima i provokacijama. Takodjer, jos dok nisi bio registriran clan wikipedije, uvijek smo imali ista misljenja na wikipediji, u raznim raspravama uglavnom o nasem Srpskohrvatskom jeziku, njegovih narecja, historiji Jugoslavije, Titu i sl. Mozda cu , ako budem imao vremena, se i ja registrirati i nastaviti borbu za istinu, ovoga puta kao zvanicni clan. Sa Engleskim sam OK, sami mi treba puno vremena. Uz ovaj pozdrav tebi, samo bih te opomenuo da ne nasjedas na 'slatkim rijecima' tipova sa hrvatske wikipedije poput Kubure, Ante P., Mir Kurvena:)) i jos 2 ili 3 sijaca neistina i mrznje na wikipediji. Njihova jalova separatisticka propaganda je pred krahom, niko ozbiljan ih ne uzima vise u obzir i njihove lazi koje plasiraju na stranicama wikipedije su sve providnije i providnije. Uskoro ce im se sav trud proglasiti uzaludnim i bit ce skinut sa wikipedije, a oni i njihov smrad, mrznju i otrov koji su sijali medju juznoslavenskim narodima nestace sa njima samima, zauvijek. Dajem ti punu podrsku i zelim ti puno uspjeha u daljem radu u pretstavljanju istine na stranicama wikipedije. Dobro je vidjeti da se nasa mreza ljubitelja istine i boraca protiv lazi i provokacija na wikipediji sve vise siri i uvelicava, i nadam se da cemo uskoro pobijediti svako zlo koje nam je na putu. To je ono sto bi i svaki razuman, posten i civiliziran covjek podrzao svim svojim bicem. Sve najbolje od G.V. Cheers!