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Greetings from [[WP:WikiProject Oregon]]. Blah blah blah. This week we have our semi-annual '''[[:Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Oregon|Picture]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Graphics|Drive]]''' and a article creation drive for the '''[[List of Registered Historic Places in Oregon|NRHP List]]'''. For the picture drive, go take a picture, or find a free use one (lots of links to gov sites above) and upload it Wikipedia. For the National Register of Historic Places, find a red link on the main Oregon list or one of the county lists at start a new article. If its more than just a stub, don’t forget to nominate it for a DYK! Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Collaboration|click here]]. [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 20:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Greetings from [[WP:WikiProject Oregon]]. Blah blah blah. This week we have our semi-annual '''[[:Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Oregon|Picture]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Graphics|Drive]]''' and a article creation drive for the '''[[List of Registered Historic Places in Oregon|NRHP List]]'''. For the picture drive, go take a picture, or find a free use one (lots of links to gov sites above) and upload it Wikipedia. For the National Register of Historic Places, find a red link on the main Oregon list or one of the county lists at start a new article. If its more than just a stub, don’t forget to nominate it for a DYK! Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Collaboration|click here]]. [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 20:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re:Whipkraft ==

Thank you, I will do some more research on this band in the next couple of days in order to create a reliable and proper page. I appreciate your fairness regarding this matter.

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Congratulations on your adminship

Thank you for stepping up to help the project. Feel free to call on me if I can be of any assistance to you. --SSBohio 19:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, will do. Tiptoety talk 19:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thnaks for your hard work.

I would just like to say (while my connection is backlogged with reverts and warns) thanks for all of my block requests in AIV that you have blocked. There is way to much vandalism atm. Just hope it will stop soon. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome, glad to help out. Tiptoety talk 20:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now get back to blocking people!! ^^ :D ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, on my way there right now :D Tiptoety talk 20:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

Hi Tiptoety, just wanted to say congratulations on becoming admin, and thanks for all your hard work. I'm sure your enthusiasm for keeping things humming around here will be a great asset to the project! -Pete (talk) 01:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I also appreciate your comments on my RfA and hope to spend some time soon working on articles. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 01:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Complex Issue

Thank you

The Barnstar of Diligence/The 41 Barnstar
Should also be called the 41 barnstar. Thanks for the help. Malinaccier (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, your welcome. That was very odd editing behavior, then did you see the message he left on his talk.....hmm....makes you wonder. Thanks for the shiny! :D Tiptoety talk 01:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves

How long did it end up taking to clean up that mess, 41 minutes? :D —Travistalk 03:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, yea something like that. That was by far some of the strangest editing behavior i have ever seen, then after he was blocked, he left a note saying it was expected he was just on a rampage. He probably has 41 other accounts to go do the same thing with :) Tiptoety talk 03:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sheesh, I hope not :O —Travistalk 03:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I know, that would mean (100 page moves X 41 accounts) 4100 page moves to fix...AHHH! Tiptoety talk 03:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey, I just thought I'd tell you, I've changed my mind. I'm going to do the above article to improve as a 24 article, I'm adding references as was asked, even though I think it's ridiculous. And im removing the excessive info next to the characters, such as what they did in each day etc. It's not necessary. Would improving that article qualify? Also can you post a {{talkback}} template on my page? Thanks. And im at 4300+ edits now :) Steve Crossin (talk) 03:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yep, that article is just fine. All my requirements where is that you significantly edit an article of your interest. 4300+ ooo.... you are getting so close to graduating! :P Tiptoety talk 03:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very well then. It will take me maybe an hour to find citations for all of them. I'm trying to find newspaper articles, but if worst comes to worst, can I use IMDB? After I've added citations, I'll remove the tag, then can you review it, and tell me if its OK? Steve Crossin (talk) 03:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yea, that is alright. Are you going to be doing any other work on the article, other than finding references that is? Tiptoety talk 04:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, as I said, there is some excessive info in the article. If you check the articles edit history, you will see I've removed some excessive info. Also, I've got a question. If you use a citation more than once, how do you do that? Steve Crossin (talk) 04:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, that seems simple enough. I think I'm going OK, what do you think? And, also, I should have my 5000 edits by the end of the day, if not then, it will be within 24 hours, easily. I apparently have a case of WP:ECT. How do you think the article I'm editing is going? :)
  • No at the references at the bottom, but in the actual ref itself, i noticed that you did not place brackets around it, hence why you can see the whole URL code at the bottom in the reference section. If that is not clear, let me know. Tiptoety talk 04:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have a question, I'm a little concerned. Currently, in the article, I'm removing the description next to each character, as I believe they are unnecessary, as it's really just a basic list. Can you look at the edit summaries and tell me if I should keep each characters descriptions? I just think they are unnecessary. Steve Crossin (talk) 05:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not see any issue with it. Though I would recommend that you leave a not on the talk page of the article stating what you are doing and why, that way other editors who watch that page can give their thoughts on it as well. Tiptoety talk 05:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you have a look at the article and tell me what you think of it? Are there enough references? Or are more needed? Not enough references is the tag on the article that is an issue. Steve Crossin (talk) 07:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Rollback

Hi there, thanks for pointing that out. I've actually had rollback for some time, but it was recently removed (I haven't bothered to update my userspace as hopefully it will be back soon :-). The comment from Ral315 was the result of a request for the situation to be reviewed on IRC. I've actually been looking for someone else to review the reasons and such (all on AzaToth's talk page) - I'm sure AzaToth will reinstate it when they get back online, it's just a pain doing it the TW way in the mean time. Cheers, Pumpmeup 06:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So I guess that's a no for giving it back - I don't think I'll bother to remove it (it involves messing with my userspace I finally got just nice) - several admins have said they will give it back in the near future anyway :-). Cheers, Pumpmeup 06:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet as. I won't be removing it - I can display the box on my userpage even if I never have it. Thanks for your understanding :-) --Pumpmeup 06:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just got your message after posting there. I believe there's not (don't ask me for a link, I can't remember where I found this info). I had a similar issue with a user on the Commons and recall that the Wikipedia policy was similar, that a logo or userbox is not an "official thing" (only the user right's log is). Anyway it will be interesting to find out. Cheers, Pumpmeup 06:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like rollback

Although WP:Twinkle gives me rollback to a degree, i'd still like to have the full feature. I suppose you can't have to many tools in the fight against vandalism! Thanks, and have a nice day! TheProf | 2007 12:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Tiptoety talk 15:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graduating??

The Special Barnstar
For being the one who has turned me from a user who had no idea on Wikipedia, into a Wikipedian who can contribute in a much better way than I thought possible, and for giving me the reason to fight vandals that I do now have, I award you this barnstar, and I sincerely thank you. Steve Crossin (talk) 15:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now, one other thing. We were discussing Admin Coaching. What would you suggest? And, for the record, do you think you would ever support me in an RFA? :P Steve Crossin (talk) 15:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are very welcome, it was a pleasure. I highly recommend that you do admin coaching, to request a coach add your name to this page. Also I would be willing to support you in an RfA, but in the very distant future. Cheers, and best of luck. Tiptoety talk 15:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've just checked the Admin Coaching program. It says here the guideline for starting an Admin Coaching, number of active months on Wikipedia, as 4 months. It says if you do not meet these requirements, consider Adoption. But I've already been adopted. What would you suggest? Steve Crossin (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, the reason that they send you back to the adoption program is that by the time users relieve there is a adoption or admin coach program they usually already have 3 months under their belt. My recommendation is that you wait until you have 4 months experience, contribute to many areas of the project then request coaching. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 16:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, well, I could always round myself out. As in, get more involved with XFDs, with the Help Desk. I also want to help fix linkrot, there is a massive backlog there, but I'm confused with how to use this tool. Which is a shame, if I knew how to do this sort of stuff, I could contribute more. And I think I will try working on my task list a bit more, those articles are not going to rewrite themselves :P. But, I think they might make an exception if I met all the other criteria. The page said that not meeting one of those criteria does not necessarily rule you out of the program. :) Steve Crossin (talk) 16:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to the tool that checks the status of links on a page. Here is an example. Steve Crossin (talk) 19:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Huggle on AndonicO

Thanks for the heads up on my edit count but I checked and that was total edits, I can't apply for Huggle until I've got more than 1000 mainspace edits (I've got about 360 at the moment) and a good history of using another programme on WP. WHilst I'm firmly in the number of edits does not a good user make camp, it's a problem with the sytem which cannott be changed on this one unfortunately. BigHairRef | Talk 17:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Message

Rollback rights

Hi, I am User:Abrech and I am currently often engaged in fighting Vandalism. Is it already possible for me to be granted rollback rights? It would make it a lot easier for me to carry on fighting Vandals. I know my editcount is not extremely high yet. However, I hope my edits show already now that there is no risk I would abuse such extended right. Kind regards, --Abrech (talk) 16:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Please take a look at Wikipedia:Rollback feature and if you would like to add a userbox to your page it is {{user wikipedia/rollback}}. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 19:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help and your kind response! Kind regards, --Abrech (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dj Perry: hoax?

Yo, you commented in an edit summary that the article Dj Perry was "obviously a hoax". Would you care to elaborate? скоморохъ 18:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I was simply stating that while the article asserted notability it still appeared to be a hoax and that it should be taken to AfD opposed to speedily deleted. Hope that clears it up, Tiptoety talk 19:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I understand your rationale re: CSD vs Afd, but what I am wondering why you think/thought it is/was a hoax - it seems legit to me. Regards, скоморохъ 19:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well reading over it again, it looks like less of hoax than originally thought, but i am just not able to find any good sources (outside of myspace) that assert this person is in fact who the article claims him to be. While i see that he as a page at imdb.com it almost appears it is fake, as there are no other sources to back up the claims on that page, to my understanding anyone can edit imdb.com , Hope that helps. Tiptoety talk 19:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks. скоморохъ 19:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I hope that you are able to find some good sources so that this article came be improved instead of sent to AfD. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 19:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding deletionof WhipKraft

Dear Tiptoety,

I am writing in regard to your deletion of the SF band WhipKraft. I am confused as to why a band like this would be deleted? Being quite familiar with all kinds of music and having written books about metal bands especially the underground genre, this band had quite a bearing on the SF community and still does. In addition to my books, this band has been written about by other editors in two published books, which you can do a search on amazon.

Your input is very welcome. Thank you ZZ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzstore (talkcontribs) 21:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted due to an AfD which can be found here where the consensus was to delete. The article lacked reputable third party, or even secondly sources and failed notability guidelines set forth in WP:MUSIC. Hope that clears it up, Tiptoety talk 22:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding J Milburn

His talk page was just posted on /b/ and asked there to be vandalized. Just FYI

-- /b/ is part of www.4chan.org

Memorizing to do

What? you don't have 1,500 names memorized? LOL.  :) (thanks for protecting the page) Antandrus (talk) 00:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I am a pitiful excuse for a user :) lol You are welcome, it was getting out of control. Tiptoety talk 00:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You unprotected Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and the first edit after you did was to re-attack the page again. Over and over again.  :( Corvus cornixtalk 00:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, will it ever end? What happens when actual IP's need to discuss something there? Dont get me wrong, it defiantly needed to be protected again, its just gotten out of control. Tiptoety talk 00:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know. The IPs can discuss on the Talk page, but I'm sure that will get vandalized soon, too. Corvus cornixtalk 00:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, its just too bad. Thanks for requesting it protected again. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 00:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mercaz HaRav shooting

Hi. Why did you protect the page? There was absolutly no edit warring going on. Each move was accepted.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Show me where each move was accepted? Looking at the talk page it does not show that, it shows a discussion taking place about the name of the article, but no consensus on what that name should be. The page was moved 4 times in one hour. Tiptoety talk 00:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The moves are typical for new events articles where the best name isn't always given right away. Pages should only be protected if there is edit warring going on, and there is no such sort going on. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per Wikipedia:Protection policy "Pages subject to a page name dispute" may be move protected, and with the page moved 3 times in a row it appears there is a minor page name dispute that would be better resolved on the talk page. Anyways it is only protected for two days. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 00:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Whipkrfat

I read through the WP:MUSIC and realized that indeed the band meets 2 of the criteria regarding notability which at least one of them can be proved through doing a google search. I don't know what was listed initially as the sources on this page, since I did not look. But that was something that could have easily been fixed. I don't agree with the common consensus of deletion, as I often see these types of actions taken upon bands that are to say the least "unconventional." And this is of an concern to me. I would like to ask you for the page to be restored, as of course, with the need to reestablish the sources for proper documentation. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzstore (talkcontribs) 01:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if you think you can improve it that will be great. I have placed a copy of it here where you may make edits and changes in hopes to improve it there, then once it is ready be placed back into article space. Cheers. Tiptoety talk 01:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Source?

  • Hello, I've been working rather hard recently. I've also learned how to use the Linkrot fixing tool, which is handy, I've been voting in XFDs and I've helped out with some articles requiring Wikifying. Anyway, that's not why I am here. I'm here to ask, Can the "24 Official Magazine" be used as a source for references? It's a magazine made by Titan Magazines, and I wish to use it as it has many official cast interviews that could be used to rewrite articles , such as Karen Hayes, and help portray them in an out-of-universe perspective, eg the character's characteristics, as told by the actors that portray them. I really hope I can use this source, otherwise a lot of valuable information goes out the window. What do you think? Steve Crossin (talk) 01:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, it just can not be called a third party source, because well it is the 24 official magazine. Tiptoety talk 01:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • So, just confirming, I can use it as a source? If so, then that is wonderful. I will be able to wipe out a lot of information, and I will attempt to rewrite the articles to more describe the characteristics of the characters, etc, as told by the actor. Steve Crossin (talk) 02:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you can use it as a source. Happy article writing. Tiptoety talk 02:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Protecting my talk page

Thanks, this is happening all the time now. God knows who I've offended... J Milburn (talk) 16:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome, it seems to be getting really bad. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 17:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfB

I wanted to personally thank you, Tiptoety, for your participation in my recent RfB. I have heard the community's voice that they require more of a presence at RfA's of prospective bureaucrats, and I will do my best over the near future to demonstrate such a presence and allow the community to see my philosophy and practices in action. I am thankful and appreciative that in general, the community feels that I am worthy of the trust it requires of its bureaucrats, and I hope to continue to behave in a way that maintains your trust in me and my actions. I hope that over the near future, you will become comfortable and satisfied with my understanding of the particulars and subtleties inherent in the RfA process, and that I may be able to count on your support when I decide to once again undergo an RfB. If you have any suggestions, comments, or constructive criticisms, please let me know via talkpage or e-mail. Thank you again. -- Avi (talk) 17:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your Unwanted Friends

Not exactly a personal attack but I've given the last user an only warning anyways. --NeilN talkcontribs 17:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for block evasion. Thank you. Tiptoety talk 17:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
no use of blocking me,i once again came with new ip
anyways i appreciate your work,now i realized not to vandalize any wikipages - 59.92.153.38 (talk) 17:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudoscience discretionary sanctions

Hi! As somebody who commented on a January proposal to place all articles related to homeopathy on article probation, I would greatly appreciate your input on a new proposal to help combat disruption that would scrap the probation and implement discretionary sanctions. I apologize for any intrusion, but this is to my knowledge the first time sanctions of this nature have been attempted to be enforced by the community, so I feel that a wide range of opinions is necessary. Thank you in advance for any comments you may make. east718 (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Travel Wiki

  • Hey, I've been working on Travel Wiki alot recently. Also, I got an admin coach, the program co-ordinator took me on as a student, and they wavered my account age as an issue :) On another note, I am emailing you now regarding the Travel Wiki. Steve Crossin (talk) 19:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great! And congratulations, admin coaching is a great program and I wish you best of luck. I will check my email. Tiptoety talk 19:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Email is sent. Steve Crossin (talk) 20:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Old Buildings and Pictures

Greetings from WP:WikiProject Oregon. Blah blah blah. This week we have our semi-annual Picture Drive and a article creation drive for the NRHP List. For the picture drive, go take a picture, or find a free use one (lots of links to gov sites above) and upload it Wikipedia. For the National Register of Historic Places, find a red link on the main Oregon list or one of the county lists at start a new article. If its more than just a stub, don’t forget to nominate it for a DYK! Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Whipkraft

Thank you, I will do some more research on this band in the next couple of days in order to create a reliable and proper page. I appreciate your fairness regarding this matter.